Sante Fe Compact 2????

Will a Sante Fe Compact 2 be able to handle a 3k 10x10 tent?

It should, but at 70 pints/day, I've never understood why people spend $1900 when they can get this http://www.amazon.com/Friedrich-D70...ywords=Friedrich+70+Pint+Dehumidifiers+#D70BP for about $300. I'm sure the Santa Fe is a quality machine, but so's the Friedrich for about 1/6 the cost. Buy 2 and keep one as a spare, and keep $1200 in your pocket.
Info http://www.allergybuyersclub.com/fr...mperature-dehumidifiers-d70d.html?itemId=3030
Good luck. -granger

i'm more worried about keeping the heat down. thank you for your advice though.

Are you saying that the Santa Fe runs cooler? I've never heard that, but it could be true. -granger

Granger2 is right, I have owned this Frigidaire 70 pint dehumidifier for years and it works great. I just recommended it to a buddy of mine for his 10x10 tent with 4k and he said it works perfect.

http://www.amazon.com/Frigidaire-FA...07&sr=8-1&keywords=frigidaire+dehumidifier+70

santa fe use around a third less power to operate,so it should be cooler.but I have been running the 70 pint Frigidaire 24/7 for over a year and it doesnt put out a lot of heat.
what kind of a/c are you running?

running a water-cooled setup.

at this moment, getting a more efficient dehuey will cost a lot less than getting a more efficient water chiller.

thanks, going to just order it this week. i will come back with results.

whelp, went to talk to a friend that is more in the scene than i am about procuring a sante fe, and he tells me that quest is sante fe's version for growing.

still researching...

Those cost even a good bit more than a Santa Fe, so what are we trying to do here? Dehumidify? And for a 10x10 tent? The Quest 80 pint is 615 watts where as the Frigidaire is 745 watts.

i want dehumidify with the least heat. what i'm looking for is pints per KwH.

i'm in a warmer and more humid part of the continent. also, over-sizing the unit so i can add more lights. only running 2k right now, want to add a 3rd. can't do it until i get more efficient.

cost isn't the issue here, please don't flame on that.

the sante fe warranty won't be covered unless i get a licensed professional to install. that's not an option. quest is made by sante fe, they did this due to warranty concerns, at least from what i'm told. smart move, imo.

i need to move my grow journal from rollitup. nothing but a bunch of asshat know-it-alls over there. a lot more receptive over here.


anyways, the quest 105 seems to be the most efficient of the bunch.

105 pints per day
80F/60% RH
4.9 amps

M1XW311 said:

i want dehumidify with the least heat. what i'm looking for is pints per KwH.

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i agree with grainger.

while its understandable that you would seek efficiency over all else... you have to weigh the additional cost here carefully.

this unit is a one of the newer breed of whole house dehumidifiers. they are ducted units, and are built to a substantially high quality.
home owners are installing these because they are preferable to free standing units in climates where almost year round dehumidification is desired( basements or hot humid cooling dominated climates).
These units are perminant install oriented... they are far quieter. and are more reliable and better suited for remote installations where servicing and routine inspections are difficult, such as attics and basements... equipment closets etc.

these units are designed to compliment or augment small residential HVAC systems.To that end, they are engineered to have a similar expected lifetime to that of traditional HVAC equipment. Their most compelling feature imo, is they they cooperate natively with any and all conventional thermostat/dehumidistats, negating the need to rely on cheap LED displays and shitty crusty plastic buttons on the unit itself.

yes these units use higher quality and far more compact heat exchangers, quiet efficient blowers, with enough static pressure to operate well with duct work.
The refrigerant equipment tends to be higher quality too... TXV valves instead of cap tubes... etc.

this all sounds great untill you realize that they are not substantially more efficient. maby 15% or so on non split units. taken over 10 years or so, the cost is justified, but not in the short term. not even close.

alot of folks cognizant of this choose instead to simply place a reasonably good quality unit next to their return air, or even inside their air handler closets. set to maintain 50% or so RH, they serve the same function.

gradients of humidity will equilibrate very quickly from room to room, so one of these simpler units, positioned near the return air will effectively dehumidify the entire house for a fraction of the cost, at least initially.

I would submit that this unit is not especially well suited to your needs. if they were cheaper... around 5 600 bucks, id say go for it, but starting at a grand... these units are extreemly hard to justify out side of the context of a permanent install in a nicely air sealed home.

get a decent quality free standing dehuy. grainger suggested a friedrich unit... im inclined to agree wholeheartedly.
while im not familiar with their dehumidifiers, i can say that their window units are among the best on the market... if not the best outright.

queequeg152 said:

i agree with grainger.

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friedrich AC's are great. but comparing the specs of that dehumidifier compared to the one i have right now, they're about the same. efficiency is out the window.

1.8 L/kWh (is 3.8 pints) is what is listed as the efficiency. (http://www.sylvane.com/friedrich-d70bp-70-pint-dehumidifier.html)

4.2 L/kWh (is 8.8 pints) for the quest/sante fe dehuey. (http://www.questhydro.com/product/dual-105/)

i don't want to get another one when i add more lights (which means more square feet, and more plants, and more humidity!) i'm going to nip it in the bud (pun intended) and get the big boy.

Granger2 said:

It should, but at 70 pints/day, I've never understood why people spend $1900 when they can get this http://www.amazon.com/Friedrich-D70BP-Dehumidifier-built--continuous/dp/B007PIZRLC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1429837432&sr=8-1&keywords=Friedrich+70+Pint+Dehumidifiers+%23D70BP for about $300. I'm sure the Santa Fe is a quality machine, but so's the Friedrich for about 1/6 the cost. Buy 2 and keep one as a spare, and keep $1200 in your pocket.
Info http://www.allergybuyersclub.com/fr...mperature-dehumidifiers-d70d.html?itemId=3030
Good luck. -granger

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yo granger,
remember when i built my new room(14x20) late 2013.
near the end of the build and it was time to be getting the dehuey. with cost over runs I was tapped
and $2000 for something like a sante fe was doable....
BUT not economically advisable at the time.
i bought 2 friedrich 50pt units for $500
they have performed flawlessly and come down to it i can get by with just 1.
but I wasn't really looking at eff. at the time
unless i go bigger I'll just use the frieds.
my plan was to get a commercial unit when they died...
a year-1/2 later I'm still waiting.
YMMV

i'm starting to think that my humidity issue has to do with the coco i'm using as the medium. coco is great for holding water. it's great for transpiration too >.<

**sigh**

starting to lean towards the friedrich now...

M1XW311 said:

friedrich AC's are great. but comparing the specs of that dehumidifier compared to the one i have right now, they're about the same. efficiency is out the window.

1.8 L/kWh (is 3.8 pints) is what is listed as the efficiency. (http://www.sylvane.com/friedrich-d70bp-70-pint-dehumidifier.html)

4.2 L/kWh (is 8.8 pints) for the quest/sante fe dehuey. (http://www.questhydro.com/product/dual-105/)

i don't want to get another one when i add more lights (which means more square feet, and more plants, and more humidity!) i'm going to nip it in the bud (pun intended) and get the big boy.

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thats quite impressive. i was not aware the whole house dehuys were that far ahead of the tube coil dehumidifiers.
im curious as to how they achieved such an efficiency rating.
the ultra aire 70, from what i recall is only in the 2's.

just do the math to see how long it will take to pay for itself. consider what you will be doing in in 10 years. consider what you were doing 10 years ago.

for what its worth. all of these whole house dehuy's are made by a single company. therma store. they are just branded differently for what ever reason.

you may be able to get the same unit under a different brand name for a slightly smaller sum of money. i know that the honey well branded version of the ultra aire 70 is like 200 bucks more.

https://www.google.com/patents/US8069681

basically incorporated a cross flow heat exchanger into their dehumidifier. remarkable unit.

whelp, my electricity bill just came in, and it wasn't nowhere near as bad as i thought it was going to be.

going with that freidrich model for now.

the whole house models are just badassery.

265 shipped.

http://www.sylvane.com/friedrich-d70bp-70-pint-dehumidifier.html?s_cid=cse_apa

you got nice deal on that 70pt too M1X
your gonna like those 70pt frieds
my 50s kick ass!