Keif to shatter

nvthis · Oct 9, 2011

I have some keif left over from 2010 I would like to shatter. Seems str8 forward enough, but I have never done this with just keif

If any of our hardcore qwiso masters might lend some tech advice, I would totally appreciate it.. Mostly I am wondering about soak time and filtering.. I have a feeling all the garbage is small enough to go through my first screen, only to collect in the coffee filter and clog it up.. And should I soak this longer, or shorter than the soak time for trim?

Thanks guys..

revcold · Oct 9, 2011

why not just press it?

CheifnBud2 · Oct 9, 2011

My only advice is use a plastic/mesh permanent coffee filter instead of the paper ones.

As for QW time i would say somehwere between 45 sec and 2 min.

nvthis · Oct 9, 2011

CheifnBud2 said:
My only advice is use a plastic/mesh permanent coffee filter instead of the paper ones.

As for QW time i would say somehwere between 45 sec and 2 min.

For shatter??

revcold said:
why not just press it?

Because, I like this

And I have a lot of trim/keif coming in this year. Need to get a solid tech going to handle it..

CheifnBud2 · Oct 9, 2011

Dont quote me on qw time... And your hash looks great if you like the paper filters keep using them.

ithruxix · Oct 9, 2011

if you use jump117s technique involving soaking in butane, you will more than likely recover all of the thc and your end product will shatter. I would definitely search and look at his posts.

nvthis · Oct 9, 2011

ithruxix said:
if you use jump117s technique involving soaking in butane, you will more than likely recover all of the thc and your end product will shatter. I would definitely search and look at his posts.

Yeah man, butane's out... Kinda hoping if someone like Jump or Gray have done this with iso, they might spill some knowledge on me

I could just go for it if nothing else..

midwestHIGHS · Oct 10, 2011

personally i think you should either do the soak in butane then a clean up with everclear. but, you said butane is out so then i would suggest doing a quick ethanol(everclear) wash instead of iso . ive done this many times with bubble hash i was bored with and comes out as a nice modertly dark red amber.

first put your everclear in the freezer
get some unbleached coffee filters and steel mesh cooking strainer
and a few mason jars

with the steel mesh strainer on top of coffee filter on one jar and another jar ready for the quick wash.

pour your everclear in the jar and then pour your kief into the jar. esitimate enough everclear to cover the product and then a little bit more to allow easy and even shake. you dont want to fill up a jar half with everclear for a couple grams.

shake for about minute then pour into your threw your metal strainer thats ontop of a the coffee filter put ontop of a jar. use the strainer to lift out undissolved particles and either discard or do a second longer wash like 2-3 mins. first run will be more heady second more sleepy stony.

after the everclear and thc have went threw the filter(make sure not to squeeze and try to ring out filters wen filtering)

then simple pour into a pyrex dish and place and hot water bath or heating pad or you can just leave it out.

i get fire dark amber red taffy shatter doing this with bubble

RulaTone · Oct 10, 2011

Yes in my opinion butane is totally useless, like every other low-polarity solvents it will also dilute the waxy coverage of the trichome endindg in a less pure extract...
Just do it with ethanol (99% better, but you may use the 95% with the only downside you will have a little water in your extract to purge)
Also Isopropilic will do the job.
Prefrozen alcohol for less waxy dilution but also little less yeld.
Soak for the time you like, i'll do a minute or more wash, i don't see any green in your sifted powder, so timing is not that important.
Anyway remember you can do multiple runs, the first shorter the lasts longer.
As a filter you should use something very fine, as others has noted, paper may clog, but it guarantee totally clearness when filtering such fine powders.
If you find it, try with a inox or nylon/polyester mesh, lower than 25u, over that measure you will surely yeld impurities.
Or try with a prefiltering with 25u mesh, then final filtering with filter paper.
Vacuum purge and you will have shatter.

Gray Wolf · Oct 10, 2011

Since you have already gotten of the main source of contamination by kifing first, soak it in ethanol for several hours while agitating regularly. Using Kif you won't be picking up excess water solubles or chlorophyll.

nvthis · Oct 10, 2011

Damn guys, thanks.. Unfortunately I live in Cali... That means grain alchohol is a real rarity out here.. I have been waiting to get some to try the winterization process, but haven't yet secured it

I'll be forced to test with iso, unless the above should suddenly change.. Pics to follow...

QTS · Oct 10, 2011

nvthis said:
Damn guys, thanks.. Unfortunately I live in Cali... That means grain alchohol is a real rarity out here.. I have been waiting to get some to try the winterization process, but haven't yet secured it

I'll be forced to test with iso, unless the above should suddenly change.. Pics to follow...

I haven't tried it out yet, but someone here suggested this link to me the other day for everclear.

Buy Wine Online - WineChateau® for Fine Wines

LoSwaga · Oct 10, 2011

acetone wash with a perm coffee filter...or QWISO with perm coffee filter...just pour the solvent over the material, no shaking or stirring or extended contact. although as mentioned you'll have a hard time putting out bad quality if you start from quality kief.

ithruxix · Oct 10, 2011

If you use butane and a filter, you won't pick up any contaminants (other than wax), and if your filter is fine enough you can get by with a quick pass, or even better soak it to extract everything extractable. Then, you can clean it up with everclear, using the winterization tech to rid the bho of any waxes, and to turn it into an absolute.

If you do it any other way, chances are you will not efficiently keep all the chlorophyll out.

winechateau.com is where I get my everclear.

IMO, that is the best way to go about it. Why are you against bho?

Gray Wolf · Oct 10, 2011

nvthis said:
Damn guys, thanks.. Unfortunately I live in Cali... That means grain alchohol is a real rarity out here.. I have been waiting to get some to try the winterization process, but haven't yet secured it

I'll be forced to test with iso, unless the above should suddenly change.. Pics to follow...

I would use 99% ISO as my second choice and not worry about the chlorophyll from kif.

Gray Wolf · Oct 10, 2011

Just because I said that I thought alcohol extraction from kif would be the easiest, that doesn't mean that butane wouldn't work also.

If I were to process kif in butane, I would probably use a thermos and do it at low temperature so as to get about a 30 minute soak time.

CheifnBud2 · Oct 10, 2011

Ive learned way more than ive taught here.....

Thanks guys.

ithruxix · Oct 11, 2011

Gray Wolf said:
Just because I said that I thought alcohol extraction from kif would be the easiest, that doesn't mean that butane wouldn't work also.

If I were to process kif in butane, I would probably use a thermos and do it at low temperature so as to get about a 30 minute soak time.

Don't know if you thought I was being rude or anything sir, or challenging your thoughts on using alcohol over butane, I was just asking the OP why he didn't want to use butane that is all.

GW you are the man bro.

I would simply use jumps process, soaking for an hour in butane then using a micro ss mesh to strain off the contaminants. I have had a bunch of kief in the past, looking quite similar to that. It ended up having a lot of particles (leaf) then one would imagine. A quick wash, is a quick wash however, no matter what way you cut the cake. Winterization would be key however.

Dudesome · Oct 11, 2011

nvthis said:
I have some keif left over from 2010 I would like to shatter. Seems str8 forward enough, but I have never done this with just keif

If any of our hardcore qwiso masters might lend some tech advice, I would totally appreciate it.. Mostly I am wondering about soak time and filtering.. I have a feeling all the garbage is small enough to go through my first screen, only to collect in the coffee filter and clog it up.. And should I soak this longer, or shorter than the soak time for trim?

Thanks guys..

dude I'd just smoke it like that

i'd love it right now that I'm out.

Gray Wolf · Oct 11, 2011

ithruxix said:
Don't know if you thought I was being rude or anything sir, or challenging your thoughts on using alcohol over butane, I was just asking the OP why he didn't want to use butane that is all..

Not an issue! I was just trying to make sure that I wasn't putting anyone down, because there are a lot of way to extract the resin.

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