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jamaican "lambsbread"
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Alone
Very Nice GET MO.
It looks like it held its Jamaican leaf structure too.
If all 3 plants didnt end up being males I would have had some great sativa for X-Mas too.
Happy Smoking and great job!
It looks like it held its Jamaican leaf structure too.
If all 3 plants didnt end up being males I would have had some great sativa for X-Mas too.
Happy Smoking and great job!
lasko
Member
Yes Alone.She was harvested 2 months ago.The picture above is taken around day 90 i think.
I have new f3's in flower atm and also looking for male
Any updates on your plants?
shush still no males?
You need some help? I should start some of this beans. Winnter will be long
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Fluffy Clouds
excellent GETMO!!!!!! lovely
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izzywozzywizzy
Two dudes in leather trench coats gave me a lump of sensi in London for helping them start there car and boy it was powerful ,I was ad high ad a kite for a week no weed has made me feel like that invicible I felt.peace trenchcoat dudes.
frenchgrower87
New member
bonsoir!
Jahgreenlabel: ta souche de Jam. Lambsbread me donne vraiment envie! je n'ai encore jamais eu l'occasion de faire pousser de la vrais Jam. mais j’espère pouvoir un jours (aller en chercher) m'en procurer. malheureusement comme la plus part des landraces, elle risque d'avoir disparue sous peut.
je suis en tout cas content de voir qu'il reste quelques passionnés qui permettent a certaines souches de ne pas s’éteindre!
merci pour le partage et pour les rêves que ça procure. a bientôt.
Jahgreenlabel: ta souche de Jam. Lambsbread me donne vraiment envie! je n'ai encore jamais eu l'occasion de faire pousser de la vrais Jam. mais j’espère pouvoir un jours (aller en chercher) m'en procurer. malheureusement comme la plus part des landraces, elle risque d'avoir disparue sous peut.
je suis en tout cas content de voir qu'il reste quelques passionnés qui permettent a certaines souches de ne pas s’éteindre!
merci pour le partage et pour les rêves que ça procure. a bientôt.
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Alone
@ GET MO ~
How did ******s Jamaican X Columbian turn out?
How did ******s Jamaican X Columbian turn out?
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free_gardener
Hi guyz,
The last P0 seeds of this Jamaican lambsbread will be tried this year, aside with P1 seeds (circa 2007) to produce new fresh P1 or P2 seeds depending on the germ rate of the P0.
Grows of more than 30 individuals showed a kind of good stability in the line, most different phenos seemed due to difficulty of giving it the perfect environment. Only needed a slight selection for non hermie-traits. But still interesting to produce seeds for the oldest generation available
Peace
The last P0 seeds of this Jamaican lambsbread will be tried this year, aside with P1 seeds (circa 2007) to produce new fresh P1 or P2 seeds depending on the germ rate of the P0.
Grows of more than 30 individuals showed a kind of good stability in the line, most different phenos seemed due to difficulty of giving it the perfect environment. Only needed a slight selection for non hermie-traits. But still interesting to produce seeds for the oldest generation available
Peace
F
free_gardener
Beautiful plants... Im wondering what are you guys thinking about the origins of this strain??
I was wondering about the origin of the first strains arriving to Jamaica... could they be from Central America? Colombia? Ethiopia?? it could be interesting to know the roots of the jamaican lineages to understand more about its characteristics too.
Irie!
About this strain: IMO it has south indian and mexican origins. I grew it side by side with an indian ultra sativa (flowering >18weeks) and the had similarities (smell of the stem in vegetative, overall shape, fruity spicy smelling bud). But the leaves of the Jamaican were even more narrow and its bud density was better than the indian landrace. The high is more electric too, suggesting mexican influence as it is written somewhere (RC Clarke?)
It could be an old mix between a strain brought by indian workers in jamaica and a strain coming from mexico, either for personnal growers or for professional pot producers. I'm not a mexican or indian landrace specialist however
What I have seen myself in a rasta community in the Blue Mountains of Jamaican is that older strains like this one are kept as spiritual purpose and are considered as very different from "common drug strains" smoked or sold on a daily basis. But it does not mean that their "biological management" was enough strict so that they would not been have crossed one day or another.
This one has the reputation to have been allways kept pure, and has been shared from a very reliable source, just because she was endangered in its natural area. From the hundred individuals that I have seen of it, I never found one that would make me believe it had been crossed with a modern line.
Hey man... from the time I asked the question, I've been doing my homework and trying to find out information about this topic. I'm pretty sure this weed came from south india with the indian workers.
Back in the days, when the coolies (labourers from south india, collies in jamaican) spreaded to different areas to work in the fields and sugar cane grows, they reached the western african coast and also Jamaica, asia and many other regions:
They took with them their smoking rituals and the word ganja and bhang as well. Notice how this terms were spreaded all over Africa too and rastas still use the word ganja. Something similar happened in Africa, the indians arrived to Zanzibar and from there, their rituals were spreaded and the bushmen tribes spreaded their use of bhang and the smoking pipes towards south Africa and central Africa. There are plenty evidences found in ancient tombs where clay or horn pipes can be found and related to the ones brought by the indians. At that time, the weed and this pipes were used for trading.
I guess this old ancient very long flowering jamaican lines (20-24) were totally related with the old south indians. They are very similar in structure, effects, flowering time, flavours... I think the most extreme tropical plants still can be found in South India, very similar as well to the Madagascar and Reunion lines, which probably have their origin there as well, in the coolies. The mexican lines come from a very different latitude, thus they are quite faster and sometimes with more compact structure, although there are some ancient ones maturing in december and so... but never heard about mexicans with so many flowering weeks.
Later on, this lines mixed with other imports and hybridised, adapting to new conditions. Then, the second generation of jamaican lines came out... lines like the Blue Mountain we can still find nowadays, is a clear example about a line from the 80s and not the 60s. With the time, even dutch and skunk, indica genes arrived and continued mixing with the rich jamaican genepool damaging it drastically.
Fortunately as you said, this old lines still have spiritual and sacramental value among the closed rasta comunities so they still can be found. This lamsbread seems to be one of them.
Peace.
Back in the days, when the coolies (labourers from south india, collies in jamaican) spreaded to different areas to work in the fields and sugar cane grows, they reached the western african coast and also Jamaica, asia and many other regions:
They took with them their smoking rituals and the word ganja and bhang as well. Notice how this terms were spreaded all over Africa too and rastas still use the word ganja. Something similar happened in Africa, the indians arrived to Zanzibar and from there, their rituals were spreaded and the bushmen tribes spreaded their use of bhang and the smoking pipes towards south Africa and central Africa. There are plenty evidences found in ancient tombs where clay or horn pipes can be found and related to the ones brought by the indians. At that time, the weed and this pipes were used for trading.
I guess this old ancient very long flowering jamaican lines (20-24) were totally related with the old south indians. They are very similar in structure, effects, flowering time, flavours... I think the most extreme tropical plants still can be found in South India, very similar as well to the Madagascar and Reunion lines, which probably have their origin there as well, in the coolies. The mexican lines come from a very different latitude, thus they are quite faster and sometimes with more compact structure, although there are some ancient ones maturing in december and so... but never heard about mexicans with so many flowering weeks.
Later on, this lines mixed with other imports and hybridised, adapting to new conditions. Then, the second generation of jamaican lines came out... lines like the Blue Mountain we can still find nowadays, is a clear example about a line from the 80s and not the 60s. With the time, even dutch and skunk, indica genes arrived and continued mixing with the rich jamaican genepool damaging it drastically.
Fortunately as you said, this old lines still have spiritual and sacramental value among the closed rasta comunities so they still can be found. This lamsbread seems to be one of them.
Peace.
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Hey Thule, how are u?? it's a pleasure to see you around my northern friend! 
I've found out the same when I looked for info now... anyway, in my opinion, Madras ganja compared to the northern indian plants coming from Himachan Pradesh is way more closer to the equator. We are talking about Nº13 against Nº30. It's like the difference between Cambodia and Nepal, so I think it can be determinanting.
Even the infamous Mumbai Mitai, an extreme indian sativa from Mumbay (Bombay) comes from a higher latitude than Madras and it's a 20+ weeks flowering extreme tropical plant too. Rahan himself said you can't tell the difference between this one and the lambsbread until they are fully flowering. Now I want to grow S. Indian, Lambsbread and Zamal side by side to explore their roots... that will be the apocalypsis!!!
Keep it coming guys!
I've found out the same when I looked for info now... anyway, in my opinion, Madras ganja compared to the northern indian plants coming from Himachan Pradesh is way more closer to the equator. We are talking about Nº13 against Nº30. It's like the difference between Cambodia and Nepal, so I think it can be determinanting.
Even the infamous Mumbai Mitai, an extreme indian sativa from Mumbay (Bombay) comes from a higher latitude than Madras and it's a 20+ weeks flowering extreme tropical plant too. Rahan himself said you can't tell the difference between this one and the lambsbread until they are fully flowering. Now I want to grow S. Indian, Lambsbread and Zamal side by side to explore their roots... that will be the apocalypsis!!!
Keep it coming guys!
Hi friends! I´m attempting some lambsbread repro right now. They are under 400 HPS but they will go outdoors soon because i´ll move to another house. Until the moment 3 males, 6 females and 2 unsexed. Sorry for the ugly pic.
. Sorry for the ugly pic.I grew this Jamaica on my first attempt to grow cannabis - not including the one where I put some seedlings near a window during winter - and it did surprisingly well.
This was a seed I found in some coffeeshop import weed in 2005 or so. Flowering time was long, 11 or 12 weeks... It may have started preflowering outside already.
Buds look big but were pretty airy, lots of shoots with small calyxes and small leaves. Still yielded ok, dunno if I even weighed it, taking up 1/4 room under a 400W HPS.
All plants were suffering from bugs badly(they had vegged outdoors) but this one repelled them.
Too bad I was even worse at drying/curing back then, fluffy buds dried way too fast and the taste never really became more than a fresh green/peppery taste before I had smoked all of it. It was a fun, daytime high. Not as potent, couchlocking or confusing as the other plants I had grown. Just a clear, focusable high that made things more interesting. Maybe I have some more seeds laying around somewhere, I would definitely like to try again sometime.
I have Colombian gold X Jamaican lambsbread from USC. But at 14-16 weeks it needs a little more planning...
This was a seed I found in some coffeeshop import weed in 2005 or so. Flowering time was long, 11 or 12 weeks... It may have started preflowering outside already.
Buds look big but were pretty airy, lots of shoots with small calyxes and small leaves. Still yielded ok, dunno if I even weighed it, taking up 1/4 room under a 400W HPS.
All plants were suffering from bugs badly(they had vegged outdoors) but this one repelled them.
Too bad I was even worse at drying/curing back then, fluffy buds dried way too fast and the taste never really became more than a fresh green/peppery taste before I had smoked all of it. It was a fun, daytime high. Not as potent, couchlocking or confusing as the other plants I had grown. Just a clear, focusable high that made things more interesting. Maybe I have some more seeds laying around somewhere, I would definitely like to try again sometime.
I have Colombian gold X Jamaican lambsbread from USC. But at 14-16 weeks it needs a little more planning...
Hey Thule, how are u?? it's a pleasure to see you around my northern friend!
I've found out the same when I looked for info now... anyway, in my opinion, Madras ganja compared to the northern indian plants coming from Himachan Pradesh is way more closer to the equator. We are talking about Nº13 against Nº30. It's like the difference between Cambodia and Nepal, so I think it can be determinanting.
Even the infamous Mumbai Mitai, an extreme indian sativa from Mumbay (Bombay) comes from a higher latitude than Madras and it's a 20+ weeks flowering extreme tropical plant too. Rahan himself said you can't tell the difference between this one and the lambsbread until they are fully flowering. Now I want to grow S. Indian, Lambsbread and Zamal side by side to explore their roots... that will be the apocalypsis!!!
Keep it coming guys!
Hola musta! Todo está bien, por el momento mucho trabajo con las plantas pero ya estoy listo! Y tú?
You should go for it with the Indian strains, maybe mandalas
mango zamal could be good choice, being half indian, half zamal. I'll go for lambsbread, Kerala and Nanda devi!
Lambsbread little girls enjoying the sun
. Males still under fluoros.
. Males still under fluoros.
Nice plants blan-k-flor, how long you grow till they show'ed sex?
Also if you please, how long till they started fully flowering?
Are you at a latitude that you will finish them outdoors?
Good Luck
Also if you please, how long till they started fully flowering?
Are you at a latitude that you will finish them outdoors?
Good Luck
Hi my friend! They grew in an unusual way, because i started them indoor from seed at 12/12, planning to grow them the full cycle indoor. Then i had to move from the app and they went to my parents garden. They showed sex under de HPS at aprox. 25 days, also males openes one or two little flowers. Today i have the 4 boys under fluoros waiting for the girls, they seem to restart the vegetative stage with full energies under the sun. i'm at 34° southern lat., i think they will finish properly . anyway, my main objective is to repro them.
! They grew in an unusual way, because i started them indoor from seed at 12/12, planning to grow them the full cycle indoor. Then i had to move from the app and they went to my parents garden. They showed sex under de HPS at aprox. 25 days, also males openes one or two little flowers. Today i have the 4 boys under fluoros waiting for the girls, they seem to restart the vegetative stage with full energies under the sun. i'm at 34° southern lat., i think they will finish properly . anyway, my main objective is to repro them.
My main objective Feel So High I Touch De Sky, got to have KaYa now!
second objective...repro jeje
Good luck, I know you will reach your objective and have some good Kaya. Irie!
second objective...repro jeje
Good luck, I know you will reach your objective and have some good Kaya. Irie!
nice one blan k flor,, looking good, to grow lambsbread outside in the uk is never gonna happen for me and our weather is not conducive for sativas so will watch your grow with my mouthwatering lol good luck with your repro,,keep safe,,peace and regards s2Hi my friend
