GROW CONTEST WINNER: Chief Bigsmoke's Perpetual Groove and Nerdatorium

chief bigsmoke · Jun 22, 2012

Thanks Shmalphy! your help is greatly appreciated. I bet budman will love some feedback on his subcool soil mission. I don't use it but don't have anything against it, but I do recycle my soil. I cherish our canadian peat sources.

budman678 · Jun 22, 2012

shmalphy said:
Subcools' super soil is what got me started making my own soil, but I would tell you there are better ways to go... If you read the organic soil forum on this website, you will get more valuable info than anywhere else. While subcools recipe is good, it is still all store bought and you could make a much better one using compsost and local soil/ amendments.

whatever you do, just ,make sure you recycle the soil. Peat is a non renewable resource....

I will look into. Subcools soil seemed easy enough. I was going to order most stuff off the Internet. I will discuss this more when I get back from vacation. Subcools soil is pretty well documented on other forums. Def going to look into Tom hills recipes. Much love!!

chief bigsmoke · Jun 22, 2012

budman678 said:
I will look into. Subcools soil seemed easy enough. I was going to order most stuff off the Internet. I will discuss this more when I get back from vacation. Subcools soil is pretty well documented on other forums. Def going to look into Tom hills recipes. Much love!!

damn budman.. checking ic on your honeymoon?.. does your lady know what you're doing haha can't keep ya away from it eh?

Much love to you and your lady

silver hawaiian · Jun 22, 2012

chief bigsmoke · Jun 22, 2012

Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC)

Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC)

I'm studying for a soils "quiz" and I'm trying to wrap my head around all the overwhelming information. right now I'm on Cation Exchange Capacity or CEC. Here is some information that I've found:

Cation Exchange Capacity (CEC)

CEC, as reported by nearly all soil testing laboratories, is a calculated value that is an estimate of the soils ability to attract, retain, and exchange cation elements. It is reported in millequivalents per 100 grams of soil (meq/100g).
In order for a plant to absorb nutrients, the nutrients must be dissolved. When nutrients are dissolved, they are in a form called "ions". This simply means that they have electrical charges. As an example table salt is sodium chloride (NaCl), when it dissolves it becomes two ions; one of sodium (Na+) and one of chloride (Cl-). The small + and - signs with the Na and the Cl indicate the type of electrical charges associated with these ions. In this example, the sodium has a plus charge and is called a "cation". The chloride has a negative charge is called an "anion". Since, in soil chemistry "opposites attract" and "likes repel", nutrients in the ionic form can be attracted to any opposite charges present in soil.
Soil is made up of many components. A significant percentage of most soil is clay. Organic matter, while a small percentage of most soil is also important for several reasons. Both of these soil fractions have a large number of negative charges on their surface, thus they attract cation elements and contribute to a higher CEC. At the same time, they also repel anion nutrients ("like" charges).
Some important elements with a positive electrical charge in their plant-available form include potassium (K+), ammonium (NH4+), magnesium ( Mg++), calcium (Ca++), zinc (Zn+), manganese (Mn++), iron (Fe++), copper (Cu+) and hydrogen (H+). While hydrogen is not a nutrient, it affects the degree of acidity (pH) of the soil, so it is also important. Some other nutrients have a negative electrical charge in their plant-available form. These are called anions and include nitrate (NO3-), phosphate (H2PO4- and HPO4--), sulfate (SO4-), borate (BO3-), and molybdate (MoO4--). Phosphates are unique among the negatively charged anions, in that they are not mobile in the soil. This is because they are highly reactive, and nearly all of them will combine with other elements or compounds in the soil, other than clay and organic matter. The resulting compounds are not soluble, thus they precipitate out of soil solution. In this state, they are unavailable to plants, and form the phosphorus "reserve" in the soil.

Larger CEC values indicate that a soil has a greater capacity to hold cations. Therefore, it requires higher rates of fertilizer or lime to change a high CEC soil. When a high CEC soil has good test levels, it offers a large nutrient reserve. However, when it is poor, it can take a large amount of fertilizer or lime to correct that soil test. A high CEC soil requires a higher soil cation level, or soil test, to provide adequate crop nutrition. Low CEC soils hold fewer nutrients, and will likely be subject to leaching of mobile "anion" nutrients. These soils may benefit from split applications of several nutrients. The particular CEC of a soil is neither good nor bad, but knowing it is a valuable management tool.

budman678 · Jun 23, 2012

Haha. My lady knows all about my favorite hobby. Literally connecting through my phone. I must admit, going cold turkey on the Internet has been a
Nice treat. Not being able to enjoy my favorite flower has been a bummer. Not willing to take the risk post 9-11 even on domestic flights. I haven't smoked since Sunday!!!!!! Will be home soon. Been thinkin about the next beans to pop this whole time.

Here is what u have narrowed it down to:
D-train (white domina x qraazy train)
Soul train (wappa x qrazy train)
Sd ibl x sfv og kush

I have some dinafem beans to play with too. Will be main-lining all of them (thanks nugbuckets)

heady blunts · Jun 23, 2012

budman678 said:
I will look into. Subcools soil seemed easy enough. I was going to order most stuff off the Internet. I will discuss this more when I get back from vacation. Subcools soil is pretty well documented on other forums. Def going to look into Tom hills recipes. Much love!!

yea i don't love subcool's recipe. his beans, however

i think LC's mix in burnone's organics for beginners sticky is the best one to recommend for a first-time soil-builder.

i'd recommend LC's soilless mix #1 as a base

BurnOne said:
LC's Mix is great for any stage of growth. You can germ seeds in it, grow mothers in it, root clones in it as well as veg and flower in it.

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:

5 parts Canadian Sphagnum Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts worm castings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered (NOT PELLETED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.

then use recipe #1 for amending

BurnOne said:
RECIPE #1

If you want to use organic nutrients like Blood meal, Bone meal and Kelp meal...

1 tablespoon Blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons Bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
(OPTIONAL) 1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.

Mix all the dry nutrients into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it. Use Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the nutrients and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.

With this recipe, all you need to do is add plain water until harvest.

it's pretty much foolproof.

chief bigsmoke · Jun 23, 2012

chief bigsmoke · Jun 23, 2012

budman678 said:
Here is what u have narrowed it down to:
D-train (white domina x qraazy train)
Soul train (wappa x qrazy train)
Sd ibl x sfv og kush

I have some dinafem beans to play with too. Will be main-lining all of them (thanks nugbuckets)

Dammnnnnn I had to google more than half those names haha those sounds pretty choice... I would randomly go for the D-train and the SD og.. mmm good

silver hawaiian · Jun 23, 2012

budman678 said:
Haha. My lady knows all about my favorite hobby. Literally connecting through my phone. I must admit, going cold turkey on the Internet has been a
Nice treat. Not being able to enjoy my favorite flower has been a bummer. Not willing to take the risk post 9-11 even on domestic flights. I haven't smoked since Sunday!!!!!! Will be home soon. Been thinkin about the next beans to pop this whole time.

Here is what u have narrowed it down to:
D-train (white domina x qraazy train)
Soul train (wappa x qrazy train)
Sd ibl x sfv og kush

I have some dinafem beans to play with too. Will be main-lining all of them (thanks nugbuckets)

Lulz

We were in Mexico for about 8 hours before I scored a bag of [shitty] weed. :artist:

budman678 · Jun 23, 2012

I almost asked a dreaded out dish boy at restie last night but I couldnt do it. I look to straight-laced. I'm sure I look like a total narc to some stranger. Now, I do wear chacos (love em) so that might be a tell tale sign I love the ganj.

I simply cannot smoke schwizz. I have been having the no cannabis nightmares. They are starting to get intense. When I get home tomorrow and have a full keyboard I'll post a couple. They are fuxking OUT THERE!!!

First thing I do tomorrow is kiss the puppies and pull out my sweet tart pheno of the Chemdog x c99 it is just devastating and tasty. Gonna get me right for sure. See y'all on the flip side. Ordering blumats and stuff for supersoil

budman678 · Jun 23, 2012

heady blunts said:
yea i don't love subcool's recipe. his beans, however

i think LC's mix in burnone's organics for beginners sticky is the best one to recommend for a first-time soil-builder.

i'd recommend LC's soilless mix #1 as a base

then use recipe #1 for amending

it's pretty much foolproof.

Since Rez is mia, I have taken to tga genetics. Love sub and his weed nerd vlog on YouTube. Seems like a great dude that makes some serious dank.

chief bigsmoke · Jun 23, 2012

My thread was just nominated for the grow of the month for JUNE!!! wowzers... time to put some more time into this.. haha thank you to whoever nominated this thread. Its a fairly new thread too. Awesome

The big thanks goes to all of you who stop by here and contribute... you know who you are!!

Mrs.Chief and her tasty RED erb... a fine hybrid cultivar whatever its mystery identity. Mrs.Chief mentioned it smells like grapefruit... and I think the aroma from the smoke is the best Damn sh*T I have ever had the pleasure to smell. like a peppery/hazy woody incense.. absolutely intoxicating... I would wear it as a cologne...

chief bigsmoke · Jun 23, 2012

Links

Links

Some helpful vids from helpful Jorge

Washing away Powdery Mildew
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The Male Plant
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Enjoy!

chief bigsmoke · Jun 23, 2012

Book reccomendation from STRA

Book reccomendation from STRA

I was put onto a wonderful book called The Secret Lives of Plants and I even found a documentary for those short on book time.

The Secret Life of Plants

It means even on the lower levels of life, there is a profound consciousness or awareness that bonds all things together. Published in 1973, The Secret Life of Plants was written by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird. It is described as “A fascinating account of the physical, emotional, and spiritual relations between plants and man.” Essentially, the subject of the book is the idea that plants may be sentient, despite their lack of a nervous system and a brain. This sentience is observed primarily through changes in the plant’s conductivity, as through a polygraph, as pioneered by Cleve Backster. The book also contains a summary of Goethe’s theory of plant metamorphosis.That said, this book is about much more than just plants; it delves quite deeply into such topics as the aura, psychophysics, orgone, radionics, kirlian photography, magnetism/magnetotropism, bioelectrics, dowsing, and the history of science. It was the basis for the 1979 documentary of the same name, with a soundtrack especially recorded by Stevie Wonder.

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yortbogey · Jun 23, 2012

chief bigsmoke said:

My thread was just nominated for the grow of the month for JUNE!!! wowzers... time to put some more time into this.. haha thank you to whoever nominated this thread.

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chief bigsmoke said:
Its a fairly new thread too. Awesome The big thanks goes to all of you who stop by here and contribute... you know who you are!!

Mrs.Chief and her tasty RED erb... a fine hybrid cultivar whatever its mystery identity. Mrs.Chief mentioned it smells like grapefruit... and I think the aroma from the smoke is the best Damn sh*T I have ever had the pleasure to smell. like a peppery/hazy woody incense.. absolutely intoxicating... I would wear it as a cologne...

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YES, I nominated this thread.... well done ~indeed....g00dluck for the win
and glad U appreciate the LUV......

chief bigsmoke · Jun 24, 2012

yortbogey said:
YES, I nominated this thread.... well done ~indeed....g00dluck for the win
and glad U appreciate the LUV......

Yortbogey.. I more than appreciate it... I absolutely love it! I don't think I'm worthy and I'm definitely not expecting to win anything.

I see this as a perfect opportunity to make new friends and share the love of growing.http://www.searchquotes.com/quotati...ove_a_theory,_but_to_improve_mankind./109763/

More friends the merrier.

silver hawaiian · Jun 24, 2012

Congrats chief! That's awesome!

silver hawaiian · Jun 24, 2012

budman, too funny. Cold sweats too?

What kinda pups ya got? We have two Bostons - a 3 year old, and a 6 month old. Such cool dogs.

Congrats on the blumats - I'd make it a point to order two shutoff valves too - one for between the rez and your line, in case you need to muck with your rez/have an overflow in the room but can't get to it b/c lights out, etc.. And one for the end of the line, so you can bleed it if you ever have air pockets. (I've got one installed at the end of my line, but I've never actually bled the line. Never needed to - no air pockets. And lord knows I've mucked with the rez plenty of times in the meantime)

budman678 · Jun 24, 2012

silver hawaiian said:
budman, too funny. Cold sweats too? What kinda pups ya got? We have two Bostons - a 3 year old, and a 6 month old. Such cool dogs.

Congrats on the blumats - I'd make it a point to order two shutoff valves too - one for between the rez and your line, in case you need to muck with your rez/have an overflow in the room but can't get to it b/c lights out, etc.. And one for the end of the line, so you can bleed it if you ever have air pockets. (I've got one installed at the end of my line, but I've never actually bled the line. Never needed to - no air pockets. And lord knows I've mucked with the rez plenty of times in the meantime)

i have a two yr old female pound puppy (border collie x beagle) and a 10yr old american yellow lab. both females and both super sweet. my wife and i also have five egg laying hens.

a rhode island red
an americana
a buff orpington
a silverlaced wyandotte
a speckeled sussex

we average 3-5 eggs per day with out flock...i will get better pics of the coop and the yard. i would love to share my veggie garden(s) haha we are veggie monsters

nothing like benefiting from others experiences without having to learn lessons the hard way. literally just ordered all of this junk for my supersoil:

6.25 to 12.5 lbs of organic worm castings
1.25lbs or 20 ounces steamed bone meal
1.25lbs or 20 ounces bloom bat guano
1.25lbs or 20 ounces blood meal
3/4 lbs rock phosphate
3/16 cup or 3 tablespoons Epsom Salts
1/8 cup or 2 tablespoons sweet lime (dolomite)
1/8 cup or 2 tablespoons azomite (trace elements)
1.5 teaspoons powdered humic acid

blumats have not been ordered yet but definetly will be soon. going to germinate seeds at the next new moon....

going to do a ten pack of white domina x qrazy train and a five pack of tahoe og x the white :biggrin:

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