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Next Generation Romulan vs. Federation Romulan

mazar_man

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Federation has been busted numerous times over the years, so who knows if he still has the original cuts. Fed's mikado (from around 2000) is still my favourite grapefruit clone seedline that I have seen. Pretty sure it was from breeder steve's original (pre switzerland swt3 etc) bx male though Fed used to be a seed producer for him until they had a falling out.
 

mazar_man

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Raco, you are digging up some old stuff; vic high I think taken from back at the bcga forums? he had the real deal for sure but it was the sativa Rom cut I think.
 

Raco

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more: :D

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mazar_man

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Personally I don't have any doubt that both Vic and Next Generation/Fed all had real deal Romulan originally(maybe two differnt cuts). jay has posted enough information about hte lineage from Romulan Joe (more than vic ever did) to have me sold.
 

Raco

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Raco, you are digging up some old stuff; vic high I think taken from back at the bcga forums? he had the real deal for sure but it was the sativa Rom cut I think.

yes,old stuff hehe... Overgrow strainbase..I printed it in 2004,and I think it was posted in 2003?
and...you´re right: Vic High

I´m just sharing the info :D
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medmaker420

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Love the old chat logs,

I have been wanting more information on this strain forever.

I still have a few original federation romulan stock that I will be making seeds with as well. I never really had a pheno that wasn't decent out of all the romulan that I have grown out.

I have never played with next gens romulan though, only federation so had to see which and where it was best.


I am thinking of breeding a federation romulan male to a green house super lemon haze. For some reason I think that will be a pretty decent cross. Hope to locate a male out of the few federation romulan seeds I do have though.

Once those are gone all I will have is my f1's of (white rhino x ducksfoot) male X federation romulan female. I would love to also be able to have some male roms just to be able to chuck pollen on my f2's once I get through all of the f1's.

I agree with the pine smell, also all of mine have purple stocks and the smoke was very stoney. I have tasted better though as far as the romulan goes but it is for sure distinct.

I think it really is a solid breeding strain to work with and hope to do it justice even if I am just "pollen chucking".
 

mr noodles

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the federation romulan from 1997-8 that i get gave me indica and a very peppery taste mixed with pine . the peppery and green pepper discouraged me to continue to grow it . fuck...i dont want green pepper in my food and certainly not in my bong .

still have 10 seeds from that era .

what confused me the most is all the other romulan that came after....grape cut ??? fruity ??? sativa...oh fuck no...not from federation seedstock from pre 98 or 99 .stout and very wide leafs that screamed pure indica plant .

so what the fuck is romulan now ?
 

medmaker420

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Mine have a pine to them, I believe that is what the rom is supposed to smell like. Now the newer stuff, not sure and if it has a berry flavor then odds are wouldn't that be the next gen blueberry influence in it?

some like a spice and pepper and others don't, just like some don't care for a berry flavor either.
 

157

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they both could be romulan with different charateristics as some afgn from same bag make different plants as told in treating yourself mag article.
 
Thanks for the info Raco, although I don't know how old the info from Vic High you posted is, but I'll take the fact that it was only around for 18months and never before that(at the time he posted) with a grain of salt. Granted BBoB is surely no gospel but don't you think they'd make sure to get things as accurate as possible before allowing what would seem to be completely false information in relation to what you've posted go to print worldwide? Especially someone as well known as Ed Rosenthal. I don't know if you're from BC or even Vancouver area, I lived in Bc for awhile, and I know alot of ppl there who would agree its been around for quite a long time. Now as for where it originated, who really truely knows except the ppl who brought it to Federation. Not trying to start a Feud here but the stories seem so different from each other. Peace

Nugz
 

medmaker420

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Thanks for the info Raco, although I don't know how old the info from Vic High you posted is, but I'll take the fact that it was only around for 18months and never before that(at the time he posted) with a grain of salt. Granted BBoB is surely no gospel but don't you think they'd make sure to get things as accurate as possible before allowing what would seem to be completely false information in relation to what you've posted go to print worldwide? Especially someone as well known as Ed Rosenthal. I don't know if you're from BC or even Vancouver area, I lived in Bc for awhile, and I know alot of ppl there who would agree its been around for quite a long time. Now as for where it originated, who really truely knows except the ppl who brought it to Federation. Not trying to start a Feud here but the stories seem so different from each other. Peace

Nugz

It is too hard to get passed the "Hype" that tends to get generated whether by growers, breeders or the seed banks. Money does infact talk and what works better than some amazing story behind the strain to really generate a large following, keep people talking about it and keep that mystic with it even years later. Call it good salesmanship or b.s. or legit facts but unless the person who developed it can confirm anything we have now, it will remain a "what if".

Either way, the fed rom I have is great. Odds are the next gen rom is good as well. If they were both backcrossed using the actual romulan then they both odds are, are legit but have different genes in the make up.
 
Yup a good story sells. And if you don't have one I'm sure you can make one up.lol Kinda sucks that this is the case with some strains, who knows maybe the true story of how a certain strain came to be would seem lackluster in comparison to it's hyped up version. Either way Romulan is a great strain and I'm glad whoever made it, did.

Nugz
 

mazar_man

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The things for certain regardless of the info source is that "Romulan Joe" was the original source for all the commercial seed source; BCGA (Vic High), Federation, Next Generation and Spice of Life. The reeferman version cut was (according to reeferman) from a buddy of Vic High. The reason for the many different types floating around today is that the clone does not breed very true, any of the people that have smoked the clone and grown out the seedlines have said the same thing.. it kicks out killer pheno's grape rom pheno etc but most are not at all like the Rom cut.Btw the info posted by Raco is originally from around 1997 before Vic got outed on CW and became convinced he was being investigated by the DEA then disappeared from the scene for good to breed ducks instead.
 
Dont know much about mathmatics...can you explain the 11 bx thing and the 97% pure Romulan?? :chin:

loss of 50% wr per cross? is that how it works it works like that for stabilizing strains where they lose 50% hetero per inbreeding

7 crosses = ~1% genetic variability
 

Raco

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loss of 50% wr per cross? is that how it works it works like that for stabilizing strains where they lose 50% hetero per inbreeding

7 crosses = ~1% genetic variability

Fairy tales ^^^
No offence intended :smile:
 
G

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it maybe a pheno but i know it as a clone only plant from northern california...
an old head up there who passed it to me told me its just a purple indica crossed with a romulan... that dude has been growing the clone for 10+ years...

she doesn't just take pretty pictures (like sooo many plants)... she is a killer across the board.
 

Koskesh

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damn I want her sooo badly lol I just popped a pack of Grapefruit X Romulan was hoping to find something like that... If it IS a pheno of regular Rom I wonder if Fed or Next Gen's would be more likely to have a specimen - if she is a Rom crossed with some unknown purple indica then I'm shit outta luck so I'm hoping your old head is just blowin' smoke :joint:
 
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