Side by side comparison

Incognegro · Mar 11, 2011

TruthOrLie said:
90g, 90g, 90s?

You realize the difference between 90g and 99g could mean $100 to some folks. Maybe the next side by side could be more detailed.

that was a typo.. 90g, 90g, 93g...i missed the other g...

lol, what kinda details are you looking for exactly? I gotta find the other pics...

TruthOrLie · Mar 11, 2011

well, if the defoliated plant produced 90 and the foliated produced 93... I think we have a winner

seanseanhen · Mar 14, 2011

hi would like to see the results of this side by side as I am a modest defoliator and having just finished reading a 10000 post thread on the subject (no kidding), I'm still curious.
peace.

omgomg · Apr 3, 2011

Incognegro said:
Defoliated plant: 233 grams freshly cut, 117g semi dry, 90gs 1week later, completely dry.

Trimmed plant: 293g freshly cut, 134 semi dry, 90gs 1 week later, completely dry.

Untouched plant: 315g freshly cut, 159 semi dry, 90s 1 weeks later completely dry.

Also, when I say freshly cut, I mean cut off the plant, and all leaves trimmed already, nothing being weighed but buds, maybe an occasional stem, or branch.

ok so the untouched plant won. Just by looking at the freshly cut grams, anyone would definitely say that the untouched plant was the winner.

now, I think you may have lied or not told the complete truth about the completely dry weights because 90,90,90 sounds a bit unrealistic. I mean, if I had a plant that was 100g freshly cut and another that was 182g freshly cut, then I would never assume or even think that I would get 80 grams or even 80 grams on one and 88 grams on the other on both plants... Maybe to other people it sounds realistic but to me, it doesn't.

I mean seriously.. how in the hell does a plant that produced 315g freshly cut ends up being 93g while the plant that produced 233g ends up being 90g?

whodare · Apr 3, 2011

leafs?

seanseanhen · Apr 3, 2011

Much obliged.

TruthOrLie · Apr 3, 2011

whodare said:
leafs?

if he really weighed the nugs of the "untouched" plant without removing the leaves to weigh the nugs then this side by side was a total waste of time.

whodare · Apr 3, 2011

i meant did he weigh the plants untouched after he cut them down, then trimmed, hung, dried, and weighed again? idk

OneTokeOver · Apr 3, 2011

Incognegro said:
With run with the side by side experiment yielded the same overall yield, both plants bringing in 78 grams... not too bad... when i have time and space to do this again, I will, and will wait til after the stretch

Did I miss something? Where did the other 12 grams come from?

Incognegro · Apr 3, 2011

The plants were weighed after cut and I believe trimmed as well,...

Different plants with different growth structures WILL dry and weigh differently... if you can't see that... then I'm sorry for you; but to call me a liar in your first post? LOL, that's pretty bold... you must be one of Japanfreakier's multiple alias's or one of the other pestering folks with nothing better to do than bitch and moan and try to pick out faults.... but oh well, fuck ya, it is what it is...

I clearly stated that the 78grams was from another project in a previous post...

Incognegro · Apr 3, 2011

TruthOrLie said:
if he really weighed the nugs of the "untouched" plant without removing the leaves to weigh the nugs then this side by side was a total waste of time.

I'm glad you feel that way... then this side-by-side wasn't for you

jd4083 · Apr 3, 2011

So this was all bullshit then? Shocker...

TruthOrLie · Apr 3, 2011

why would you weigh the LEAVES?
:laughing:

SteadySmokin · Apr 4, 2011

Wow a bit cocky arnt ya incog? Dont get too pissed when ur growin plants as big as waterbottles. Lets do a side by side, If i have twins and cut the legs and arms off one, lets see witch one weighs less. Great thread

omgomg · Apr 4, 2011

Incognegro said:
The plants were weighed after cut and I believe trimmed as well,...

Different plants with different growth structures WILL dry and weigh differently... if you can't see that... then I'm sorry for you; but to call me a liar in your first post? LOL, that's pretty bold... you must be one of Japanfreakier's multiple alias's or one of the other pestering folks with nothing better to do than bitch and moan and try to pick out faults.... but oh well, fuck ya, it is what it is...

I clearly stated that the 78grams was from another project in a previous post...

oh.... so they all weren't one plant? Well then this test was a waste of time then..

not only that but you weighted the leaves of the untouched plant too? seriously?

So repeat again, which one weighted the most at the end of the test cuz from what I read from your conclusion is that the untouched plant weighted more after dried.

Yes_I_Am · Apr 4, 2011

i think it is strain dependant imo, and it also depends when you defoliate to.

omgomg · Apr 4, 2011

Yes_I_Am said:
i think it is strain dependant imo, and it also depends when you defoliate to.

what makes you believe this? any proof?

Yes_I_Am · Apr 4, 2011

yeah i use the shades of green technique bro, ive been doing it for over 5 years now ive found some plants love it they make nice bowl shaped plants with bottom growth coming to the top with a nice even canopy.

then on some plants the bottom shoots never really take off they stay small. also where the new branch comes from above the shade leaf, it can stunt on some strains, i find sativas and sativa indica mixs love it where af afghany andother strong indicas, not all, but some dont really take that well to it.

also when you pull you leaves off matter immensly, i found just b4 you put her into flower is the best time about a week b4. then you get lots of extra nodes. its best to wait for the leaves the shade is supporting to show nicely b4 you pull otherwise they take forever, if there is enough new tip to take on light then its good to pull the shade leaf under it.

i like to work my way from the top then pulling off each set as the branch gets nearer the top. that coupled with bending produces some impressive specimens

this is what ive examined in my experience anyway, thats all i can comment on.

Yes_I_Am · Apr 4, 2011

heres a few different strains ive done it on jsut the first at hand.

these all had the shade leaves removed b4 going into flower only the tips remained. :tiphat:

omgomg · Apr 4, 2011

so whats the increase in yield with your method? Just asking because this guys method actually decreased yield.

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