Organics for mites

Guest 150314 · Feb 23, 2011

Hey does anyone have any links to University or another scientific article proving that rosemary or lavender as a foliar is effective against mites?

All the links in this thread are dead..

Clackamas Coot · Feb 23, 2011

greenmango said:
Hey does anyone have any links to University or another scientific article proving that rosemary or lavender as a foliar is effective against mites?

All the links in this thread are dead..

Efficacy and persistence of rosemary oil as an acaricide against twospotted spider mite (Acari: Tetranychidae) on greenhouse tomato

University of British Columbia
Faculty of Land and Food Systems
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada

The specific product mentioned, EcoTrol EC, is produced in Canada. Besides rosemary extract they also include one of the mints and I don't recall which one specifically but like EcoTrol other commercial concoctions use mints like marjoram, peppermint, spearmint, oregano, basil, et al.

Here's another study from Agruculture and Agri-Food Canada

Essential oils formulations for the control of mites, insects, and diseases on greenhouse ornamental and vegetable crops and again the specific product discussed, in part, is EcoTrol EC.

I'll get back to you on the lavender extract deal.

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Corpsey · Feb 23, 2011

I found this..http://www.certifiedorganic.bc.ca/programs/osdp/OSDP-FinalReport_I-016.pdf

go to page 18.

Table 1 summarizes the procedures employed and observations made in various efficacy
tests. Tests 7 and 8 on Table 1 suggest that liquid formulations of rosemary and lavender
oil each at 2% concentration, is effective against both aphids and spider mites. The final
formulation of the 2% rosemary-lavender mixture, caused 94.9 ± 3.650 mortality of mites
on roses and 100% mortality of aphids on peppers.

so this process was from oil extracts, so im not sure how different the fpe we make is.
i have not even made it yet, but i plan to very soon. thanks jay for your contributions!

Clackamas Coot · Feb 23, 2011

yourcorpse said:
so this process was from oil extracts, so im not sure how different the fpe we make is.

i have not even made it yet, but i plan to very soon. thanks jay for your contributions!

yourcorpse

These folks have just about any plant extract you could want. Fair prices but I have no idea on mixing ratios of pure extracts to water.

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Corpsey · Feb 23, 2011

and this journal article on marjoram and rosemary...
http://www.akademiai.com/content/m5v22p7364wm85j1/

BongRipkenJR. · Feb 23, 2011

I just got a product called Liquid Ladybug sent to me. Supposedly it kills mites and their eggs. You can spray it at any stage of plant growth as well. I dont know to much about it, but the company sent me 3 free bottles. Hit them up and ask them for some and try it out. I dont have a mite problem, but it happens.

Clackamas Coot · Feb 23, 2011

BongRipkenJR. said:
I just got a product called Liquid Ladybug sent to me. Supposedly it kills mites and their eggs. You can spray it at any stage of plant growth as well. I dont know to much about it, but the company sent me 3 free bottles. Hit them up and ask them for some and try it out. I dont have a mite problem, but it happens.

BongRipkenJR.

Interesting product - the active ingredients are organic Peppermint Oil and Geraniol which is the primary agent in citronella.

Looks very promising! Let us know if you find it beneficial. I'll have to hit them up for a sample as well - LOL

Thanks again for the information.

CC

BongRipkenJR. · Feb 23, 2011

When I heard the product kills eggs I had to check it out. I wouldn't go buy it though. I feel hydroponic stores and the companies that supply them are trying to always sell you snake oil so I figured I would see if they would give me some free ones. They had it to my house within 3 days and the dude was very helpful. Gonna treat some clones as a preventative measure. I do have a buddy that has some clones with mites so I could spray it on them and see if they are fixed.

ogenko · Feb 23, 2011

i haven't had mites yet... knock on wood
just reading along in preparation for the event that may happen
reading about the lavender solution,
im thinking a dilute solution of

might be a good battle weapon
anyone tried something like this??

INGREDIENTS:
Water, Organic Coconut Oil*, Potassium Hydroxide**, Lavandin Extract, Organic Olive Oil*, Organic Hemp Oil, Organic Jojoba Oil, Organic Lavender Oil, Citric Acid, Tocopherol
* CERTIFIED FAIR TRADE INGREDIENTS
** None remains after saponifying oils into soap and glycerin

SilverSurfer_OG · Feb 25, 2011

Mixed myself up a nice wee batch of miticide

Some warm water, capfull of organic neem oil, capfull of aloe vera/manuka honey juice, dab of eucalyptus soap and a splash of lavender extract.

Blasted this in the blender for a maybe 30 secs. Results look good. First time in a blender and the difference vs shaking a spray bottle is immense :yes:

Still fully emulsified 48 hours later.

ajc0k · Mar 2, 2011

hey guys, i was given a link to this thread from another member (ty) and i read up on the lavender.. my boy who came by told me his grandma had a lavender bush in her backyard.. so we picked a few buds off, stripped it off the stems and put 1 cup of fresh flower pods in a gallon of RO water.. then i also found out the same day my sister was given a free 15 ml bottle of pure essential lavender oil at a farmers market. talk about lucky

it's really strong smelling shit, i was ecstatic when she gave me it because i've been battling mites bad. i figure i should just use the essential oil just to be sure. how many ML per gal do you think i should use with the essential oil? heres a pic of the bottle..

jaykush · Mar 3, 2011

i personally would use the plant based extract vs the essential oil to be sure. its true and tried.

rckymtnthuglife · Mar 5, 2011

Jay Kush you have done it again, my friend. Unfucking believable - LAVENDER WORKS.

Here is a trick for those of you that are just starting up or are taking clones from friends. I know this ain't organic but I only use it for little cuts ( absolutely no roots )

Mix 2tbs. of plain regular old bleach and mix with 1 gal of water. Pour into big ziplock bags and add cuts in about half an hour take em out and rinse with plain water. This will kill adults and eggs.

Peace
Rocky

pineappaloupe · Mar 5, 2011

I am all for organics. But there is a place for pesticides. I do not think they are the only part of control. You need to monitor your garden carefully. And for mites, IMO, considering how aggressive, resilient, and damaging they are, you should use pesticide.
I always have floramite and avid on hand. When anyone gives me a cut or a small rooted plant, they get dunked in both of those chemicals.
It is not organic, but the chemicals do not persist in the plant for long, 30 days or so for floramite. But in the end, by treating them with the pesticide early on, you can eliminate the need for much larger applications later on. The longer you grow in the same space, the more likely you are to get mites. It is almost inevitable. Learn the early signs of them.
If you have a separate flower area, that you have never seen mites in, all you need to do is dunk any new clones, and spray them once. And if you have ever seen signs of mites in veg, spray them again before they move to flower.
If you do this right, you wont have to apply anything in flower. And they will have the entire flower period to be pesticide free, with all that new growth.
Floramite kills the eggs. Neem doesnt. Eradication of mites using anything else, is highly unlikely.

Clackamas Coot · Mar 5, 2011

Utter and complete bullsh*t - on each and every point.

An amazing feat in and of itself.

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schwagg · Mar 5, 2011

grandma's rock!

smiling wolf · Mar 6, 2011

simply take some lavender sprigs( sticks with flower buds on them) and strip the flower buds off. take a 1 liter bottle, add a 1/4 cup or so of lavender flower buds. let soak for 48 hours, then strain the plant material out well. dilute 1:50 and spray your plants lightly on infected areas, make sure to get under the leaves. repeat in 5 days. so far everyone i have told it to and has tried it has had success in killing mites, coot said even the eggs die which is pretty cool.[/quote]

I'm sorry i missed what the lavender is soaked in?

Clackamas Coot · Mar 6, 2011

clean water

compost · Mar 6, 2011

pineappaloupe said:
I am all for organics. But there is a place for pesticides. I do not think they are the only part of control. You need to monitor your garden carefully. And for mites, IMO, considering how aggressive, resilient, and damaging they are, you should use pesticide.
I always have floramite and avid on hand. When anyone gives me a cut or a small rooted plant, they get dunked in both of those chemicals.
It is not organic, but the chemicals do not persist in the plant for long, 30 days or so for floramite. But in the end, by treating them with the pesticide early on, you can eliminate the need for much larger applications later on. The longer you grow in the same space, the more likely you are to get mites. It is almost inevitable. Learn the early signs of them.
If you have a separate flower area, that you have never seen mites in, all you need to do is dunk any new clones, and spray them once. And if you have ever seen signs of mites in veg, spray them again before they move to flower.
If you do this right, you wont have to apply anything in flower. And they will have the entire flower period to be pesticide free, with all that new growth.
Floramite kills the eggs. Neem doesnt. Eradication of mites using anything else, is highly unlikely.

I never had spider mites in years of flowering I sprayed down the plants every 7-10 days with neem oil. Recently I acquired some clones that were completely covered in mites head to toe. I would have just tossed them but I had smoked the weed from them and it was insanely good. I just sprayed down the plants a few times with my bug spray.

1 part Dr. Einsteins neem oil
1 part spinosad
1 part safer potassium salts.

I make sure I keep the solution warm and constantly agitate the mixture well spraying to keep it from creaming. Also I used a sponge on the bottom of the lower leaves to wipe some off and make sure everything got coated. It has been almost 2 months and I haven't seen any signs of them. I have even been slacking and haven't sprayed down my veg room in a few weeks.

I believe the big factor in people having problems killing some of these insects is they let them hang around. If you use organic controls or even pesticides but don't finish the job quickly those critters are gonna start building up a resistance to most methods of control. I use my organic pest mixture as a preventative measure. If I see bugs I then get VERY proactive till I feel any signs of infection are gone.

On a side note I completely wipe down both of my rooms at least once a month with a sanitizing solution to kill any bugs, molds, fungus, ect.

pineappaloupe · Mar 9, 2011

^^
My mentality is to nuke them when they are young. I've had people give me cuts that they claim are clean. And then I take a closer look and find lines from mites on the leaves. I know when my shit is clean, and I have learned I can't trust anyone else. They best solution, don't take anything from anyone else. Even if you had a quarantine room, you go in the room, pest can get on you.
Pesticides do not last for ever. You can hit them hard in veg, even late veg, and not have to apply anything in flower, and in the end everything is just as clean, you wont need to use anything more than what is used at the beginning, including everything listed as organic.
On the label, which is a legally binding contract, based on research, floramite is approved for use on tomatoes 1 week before picking. You shouldn't ever have to use it 9 weeks before harvest if you keep your early veg clean.
If you ever see mites, assume there are eggs. And those eggs are like bomb shelters.

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