What's new
  • As of today ICMag has his own Discord server. In this Discord server you can chat, talk with eachother, listen to music, share stories and pictures...and much more. Join now and let's grow together! Join ICMag Discord here! More details in this thread here: here.

Earth Juice Users

Hello fellow farmers,

This is the place for all who are interested in the learning about the wonderful natural product “Earth Juice” OMRI Listed.

*If your just starting out growing = READ the entire thread - take some time reading through the organic library stickies - use the (advanced) search function - get familiar with the Infirmary section



Organic Library: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=131002

Search: https://www.icmag.com/ic/search.php

Here is the place to (chit chat) about anything earth juice related: https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=163426

EJ seems to have partnered with a company called Hydro-Organics & now offer ALOT more products (like over 40).

The labels are different & are oddly not listed on the Earth Juice homepage.

The kind folks at HTG (High Tech Garden) told me they can special order them. http://www.htgsupply.com/

Call or Email & ask for CJ or Marcus :)

Lets see whats up with this stuff.

Old School Liquid "6 part" Line

EARTH JUICE GROW - (2-1-1)

bat guano
kelp
sulfate of potash
feather meal
oat bran
blood meal
steamed bone meal

* useful throughout all of vegging and the first couple weeks of flowering .

EARTH JUICE BLOOM - (0-3-1)

bat guano
seabird guano
kelp
sulfate of potash
steamed bone meal
oat bran
rock phosphate

* this product has no Nitrogen it’s especially useful for late stage flowering when it’s desirable to let a plant use up the soil’s nitrogen reserves.

EARTH JUICE CATALYST - (.03-.01-.1)

oat bran
kelp
wheat malt
molasses
yeast

* Not a molasses replacement in my opinion due to lack of Calcium & Magnesium but contains great fungal boosters. Also works great for seedlings, clones, foliar sprays.

Earth Juice Meta-K - (0-0-10)

sulfate of potash

* Many organic fertilizers run a little “lean” on K - especially guano based products.
* Caution should be used with this product as it has a high NPK value.
* A good substitute to Meta-K is Molasses, as it has a lot of Potassium = K.
* It does have a good measure of Sulfur.
* Hard chunks in product are normal - you can crush it up.

Earth Juice Microblast - (1-0-0)

kelp meal
magnesium sulfate
borax
cobalt sulfate
ferrous sulfate
manganese sulfate
sodium molybdate
zinc sulfate

* Decent option if dealing with "strange" problems.

* Microblast tests out to the following percentages . . . Magnesium (Mg) .05%, Boron (B) .02%, Cobalt (Co) .0005%, Iron (Fe) .10%, Manganese (Mn) .05%, Molybdenum (Mo) .0005%, Zinc (Zn) .05%.

Earth Juice Rootstock - (.02-0-.1)

Soy bean
Kelp
Potash

* Works great with seedlings – clones – teas – foliar spray – very low NPK so hard to over do doseage.
* They also sell it in gel form for clone tips.
___________________________________________________________________


NEW Liquid Lines

Elements "4 part"

Elements Grow - 16-0-0

For use with Planting Mixes, Native Soils and as a Hydroponic Additive. Elements Grow is a High Nitrogen formula developed to encourage vigorous stem & leaf growth. May also be used as a Grow Booster or as part of the Elements Total Solution. Indoor/Outdoor Plants

Elements Bloom 0-16-16

picture.php


For use with Planting Mixes, Native Soils and as a Hydroponic Additive.
Elements Bloom is a High Phosphorus formula developed to help promote budding, flowering and the production of essential oils and fragrances of flowers and herbs. May also be used as a Bloom Booster or as part of the Elements Total Solution.
Indoor/Outdoor Plants.


Elements Micro - 0-0-1

great for indoor & outdoor plants. For use with planting mixes, native soils and as a hydroponic additive. Elements Micro is a micronutrient formula developed for plants to help prevent and treat micronutrient deficiencies. For use as a Micronutrient Booster or as part of Elements Total Solution.

Soluble potash...................1.0%
boron..................................0.02%
cobalt................................0.0005%
Iron...................................0.10%
Molybenum.......................0.0005%
Zinc..................................0.05%

* Different than Microblast 1-0-0 - Elements Micro has no Magnesium or Manganese * Nitrogen & Potash levels are reversed.

Elements Cal-N-Mag - 2-0-0-3:Cal-1:Mag

For use with Planting Mixes, Native Soils and as a Hydroponic Additive. Elements Cal“N”Mag is a Calcium and Magnesium formula developed for plants to help prevent and treat Calcium and Magnesium deficiencies. For use as a Calcium and Magnesium Booster or as part of Elements Total Solution. Indoor/Outdoor Plants.
__________________________________________________________________________

Sugar Peak “5 part”

1 Leaf Growth Plant Food – (3-1-5)

A convenient 1-part formula crafted for energetic stem and leaf growth for foliage plants and the vegetative stage of flowring and fruiting plants.

2 Flowering Plant Food – (2-4-5)

A convenient 1-part formula designed to effectively maintain fruiting and flowering plants. For high production plants use the Leaf Growth formula during green growth. Change to Flowering formula at budding to stimulate blooming and fruiting.

3 Grand Finale – (0-6-3)

A convenient one-part finishing formula designed for maximising production of determinate flowering and fruiting plants (those that die after one flowering/fruiting cycle).

4 Sugar Peak (Briximus Maximus)– (0-.01-.1)

Ascophyllum nodosum (Bladderwrack seaweed)
potassium sulphate

Foliar feed designed specifically for the last two weeks before harvest to give the plant a boost in those vital final weeks.

5 Sugar Peak Catalyst – (.03-.01-.1) “same NPK & ingredients as old Catalyst”

oat bran
kelp (bladderwrack seaweed)
wheat malt
molasses
yeast

This premium additive works with your nutrient to encourage compact branching, stimulates opulent fruiting sites, triggers early yields, introduces natural sugars and conditions soils, coco, composts and hydroponic solutions for superior nutrient assimilation for a quantum leap in results. Use throughout all stages of plant growth. Can be used as a finishing formula for plants that die after one flowering/fruiting cycle (determinate plants).
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sweet & Heavy “4 part”

1 Sweet & Heavy Prime – (0-0-1-.5:mag-.1FE)

Formula contains designated macros and micros chelated by selected proteins and phytoacids.

natural molasses
kelp
bat and fossilized guano.

2 Sweet & Heavy Grow – (3-1-4)

Formula is a natural sucrose-nitrogen complex designed to provide vigorous green vegetative growth

3 Sweet & Heavy Bloom – (2-6-4)

Formula provides natural sucrose-phosphate complex that targets the production of flowers, fruit and vegetables

4 Sweet & Heavy FINIS - (0-6-3.8)

is an optional finishing formula designed for determinate flowering & fruiting plants. Recommend to use starting at 14 days prior to harvest. Recommend to use with sugar peak BRIXIMUS MAXIMUS.
____________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Soil / Grow Medium Items

Amazon Bloom Soil

peat moss
forest compost
coconut coir
feather meal
bat guano
marinebird fossilized guano
steamed bone meal
sulfate of potash
magnesia from langbenite
neem meal
earthworm castings
sea kelp (ascophyllum nodosum)
humate ore (leonardite)
oyster shell lime (ph adjuster).

* Contains NO perlite - Aprox 30% should be added.
* Although not listed *Amazon *contains Mycorrhizae.

Procoir Pure Coco-Coir

picture.php


Popular worldwide as a planting medium and alternative to peat moss this superior quality coir, first offered by Hydro-Organics in 1996, still remains the favorite of hobbyist and commercial growers throughout the U.S. and abroad. Procoir exclusive "damp environment" design offers increased aeration along with the lowest salt-index (EC) for assured and reliable results. Available in a 22 oz compressed briquette and 11 lb compressed bale. The very popular 11 lb bale makes, at breakout and hydration, 2.5-3.0 cf of planting medium and offers a convenient built-in handle for easy transport. For indoor/outdoor plants, hand-feeding and hydroponics.
HOW TO HYDRATE A BALE: To a 20 gallon tub fill with 7 gallons of water. Add 7 Tbsp of Earth Juice Grow and 2 tsp of Earth Juice Assist. Mix well. Add 1 Procoir bale to the solution. The material will expand in approximately 15 minutes. A natural way to get your plants off to a great start.

Aerorocks

picture.php


A Hydroponic Growing Medium. A fired-blown clay material that is sterile, lightweight that can used in hydroponics, blended with soils for improved aeration, or as decorative top dressing for container plants. Use it alone in hydroponics or try blending it with Coir or your favorite planting mix for superior aeration. Aerorock is much better alternative to perlite. It will help buffer nutrients and not loose it structure and air holding capacity. General Rule of Thumb for Maximum Aeration: Line the bottom of an Aerobag with a layer of Aerorock and fill the Aerobag with a mix of 1 part Aerorocks to 9 parts ProCoir or Amazon Bloom. Indoor/Outdoor plants, soil and hydroponics.

Earth Juice Assist

A natural wetting and media conditioner, for use with soil, soilless, hydroponics and hydro-organics. It can help extremely dry soils absorb moisture and fertilizer by reducing the tendency for water to run off of the dry surface by breaking the surface ternsion of the water. You may have noticed how hard it is to get peat moss to absorb water sometimes. Use Assist to avoid this problem and get the nutrients and water where they need to go. Use to soften soils for better moisture penetration and to increase fertilizer availability.

DRY FERTS

Rainbow Mix Grow (Now Hydro Spice Grow) - (5-5-2)

bat guano
kelp meal
steamed bone meal
natural potash.

Naturally time-released, these nutrients only need to be applied once or twice a season to encourage a profusion of flowers and an abundance of veggies.

Rainbow Mix Bloom (now Hydro Spice Bloom) - (1-9-2)

bat guano
kelp meal
steamed bone meal
natural potash.

Naturally time-released, these nutrients only need to be applied once or twice a season to encourage a profusion of flowers and an abundance of veggies.

Verde Fire Grow 10-3-1

picture.php


The Only Natural Solution Grade dry-powder formulas available. Mixed with water it makes an excellent liquid feed plant food for a variety of indoor/outdoor plants. May also be used in its dry form as a broadcast fertilizer or mixed directly into the media. For use with planting mixes, coco-coir, and native soils. Verde Fire Grow is recommended for leafy plants and the vegetative stage of flowering and fruiting plants. Use Verde Fire Bloom to aid in the development of flowers, vegetables and fruit as well as to promote the output of essential oils and fragrances of flowers and herbs. Apply at the first sign of budding and through flowering and fruiting. Indoor/outdoor plants, hand-feeding, drip systems and sprayers.

Verde Fire Bloom - 0-9-3

picture.php


The Only Natural Solution Grade dry-powder formulas available. Mixed with water it makes an excellent liquid feed plant food for a variety of indoor/outdoor plants. May also be used in its dry form as a broadcast fertilizer or mixed directly into the media. For use with planting mixes, coco-coir, and native soils. Verde Fire Grow is recommended for leafy plants and the vegetative stage of flowering and fruiting plants. Use Verde Fire Bloom to aid in the development of flowers, vegetables and fruit as well as to promote the output of essential oils and fragrances of flowers and herbs. Apply at the first sign of budding and through flowering and fruiting. Indoor/outdoor plants, hand-feeding, drip systems and sprayers.

Dry Guano

Primal Harvest Powder – (0-12-1)

This legendary guano, sourced from uninhabited ancient fossilized deposits, is the "king" of bloom guanos, and considered by the ancients as a "gift from the gods." No other phosphate guano, pound for pound, provides as much "flowering dynamics." Naturally formulated with no nitrogen and high phosphorous to focus the plant's energy on the production of flowers, fruit, and veggies, not on excessive green growth.

Bat Guano Grow – (10-2-1)

A popular grow formulation fertilizer. A tried and true guano fertilizer that has demonstrated through the years to be a superior performing nitrogen fertilizer. A fairly fast acting fertilizer that will not attract animals. This is the choice ingredient for "guano teas." Very light flowing and mixes easily with most growing media.

Volcano Bat – (0-8-1)

A premium quality bloom formula bat guano.
Contains the best possible percentage of "available" bloom plant food sourced from Bat Guano.
_______________________________________________________________________________________________

Other

Hi-Brix - (0-0-3)

This rare and highly prized molasses is a natural source of plant nutrients that has been formulated for use in soil and hydroponics. It can be used in conjunction with a variety of fertilizers.

* contains 3% potassium

Fulvic Acid

Fulvic Acid is far superior in action to humic acid due to its low molecular weight, which enables it to go through the cell membranes of roots and leaves. Where humic acid is soluble in alkaline media only, Fulvic Acid is soluble in all media. Fulvic Acid will power up the entire plant, from the roots to the growing tips, by accentuating the production of nucleic acids and photosynthesis. Used as a foliar or add to solutions. Especially recommended: adding to liquid micronutrient formulations.

Soy-FUL - 0-1-0

picture.php


A liquid plant nutrient produced from fermented soybeans to be used as part of a complete fertilization program through all stages of plant development. For Indoor/Outdoor plants. Soil and especially recommend for use in hydroponics and foliar sprays. Replaces Hydro-Organics “Fulvic”.

Humic Acid

Humic acid is a naturally occurring material found in soils, lignite and composting vegetable matter. Rich Humic lab results show 22% humic acid through the alkaline extraction method and 3% humic acid through the acid insoluble method. Because some states recognize only the acid insoluble method, we list Rich Humic at 3% humic acid.

Earth Juice Escential Spray

Kelp
Quinoa
Eucalyptus
Orange capsicum
Rosemary
Patchouli
Tea tree
Lemon grass
Cloves
Lavender
Ginger
Molasses
Citric acid

* Wow does this stuff smell awesome – has no NPK value but works great for foliar spray as an oder mask & use it in late flower teas as a flavor enhancer.

Rooter's Mycorrhizae

picture.php


Proprietary blend of 11 mycorrhizal fungi selected for a broad spectrum of plants, media and environments. Harmonizes with the plant's root system and constructs a microbial network that will vastly improve most plants' growth and vigor. For soil and hydroponic applications.

Big Bloomin’ Liquid Guano - 0-4-0

picture.php


This natural liquid plant food is clog-resistant, non-burning, odor and dust free, making it an excellent choice for a variety of applications as well as a superior bloom formula for all fruiting and flowering plants. Take the "Natural Path" in encouraging the production of blooms, essential oils and fragrances. Can be use by itself or together with other fertilizers. Indoor/outdoor plants, soil and hydroponics.

Solution Guano - 0-8-1

picture.php


The only "Solution Grade" Bloom” guano powder available. May be mixed with water for to make a liquid feed, mixed directly into media or used as a broadcast fertilizer. The clog-resistant performance allows for use with a variety of applicators. Its micro-fine properties provides for rapid penetration into the soil structure aiding in the plant’s ability in obtaining the nutrients. For indoor/outdoor plants, soil and hydroponics.

Aerobag 1-3-5-10-25-50-100-200-400 GAL Capacity

picture.php


Extra sturdy lightweight fabric hydroponic and soil grow bags with handles. The fabric construction allows for increase aeration which will help reduce problems associated with over watering and when filled will contour to the shape of the ground for extra stability. Great for container gardening and hydroponics. Reusable and fold for easy storage. Indoor/Outdoor plants, soil and hydroponics. Bag is 20" x 20", holds 95 liters and 3.34 cubic feet.

__________________________________________________________________________________

Pest Prevention

GoGnats

goGnats is a poison-free alternative for the effective control of fungus gnats, mites, aphids, whitefly, thrips and a host of garden and hydroponic pests. goGnats liquid may be sprayed directly on plants, surfaces of planting mixes and areas of infestations. For hydroponics, may be added to reservoir and hydroponic solution to control waterborne, root zone and media borrowing pests. Exempt from EPA registration under section 25(b) of FIFRA. Not for sale in/to:In, KY, MS, TN,VT.

NeemShine

picture.php


A Neem Oil Leaf Shine that mixes easily with water.
___________________________________________________________________________

PH Up – PH Down

Up = Potassium Bi-Carbinate
Down = Citric Acid

* Rarely used “this is organics, fellow farmers” Dont like to use this stuff unless there is a major problem.

* Takes a good bit of crystals to change hard water BUT a small amount has big affect with RO water.

* PH Down crystals could come in handy for bubble cloners when PH is best set at around 5.5 for best results.

* Bubbling most EJ teas will make the PH start very low in the 4’s – after 12 to 36 hrs the PH will climb into the 7’s “in most cases” try to catch that drift if tuning the mediums PH.
___________________________________________________________________



IMO Runoff tests using RO water can give useful info.

Here my deal on PH / EC with organics “simply” – Pot grows best around 6.5 or 6-7 get out of that range to long & deficiencies / problems show up.

Its real easy to get carried away with lime & or hard water. PH can easily get into the 7’s not absorbing nutes quickly being out of the optimum range. Ya might end up with some lockout, leaves showing deficiencies so ya crank up the feeding rates. Quickly you can have two problems, high PH lockout & high EC "nute" lockout.

But on the other end your medium might have to much peatmoss & not enough lime. Woods dirt in my area is great but PH test in at 5.5 - same deal but on the low end "acidic".

Or maybe you’re a scardy cat feeder & you need to jack it up & double your EC runoff ?

The stuff will grow pretty darn good with things out of wack but getting things zeroed in will reward.

Use my meter less & less but it is a handy weapon for me – keeps me from guessing.

Using mostly RO water also helps me with control.

TF.
___________________________________________________________________

Info on bubbling EJ teas can be found on page 5.

This thread was made to help the community pass around info on Earth Juice data, from schedules / rates / storage / life span / opinions / hell, even how it smells / Etc. Ill update & add as time goes on.

Only thing = KEEP ON TOPIC..

TF

:joint:
 
Here are a few feeding schedules for those interested in the rates:

3LB "three little birds"

* all ingredients are added to a gallon of water

Veg

1 - 2 TBSP Grow (3 – 4 TBSP for N hungry plants, bloom left out)
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst

Microblast 1 – 2 times


Early Flower – (First 2 weeks)


1 TBSP Grow
1 TBSP Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst

Flower

1 TBSP Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst

Flower Micro Mix – (Used 1 time or 2 times for long flower)

1 TBSP Bloom (2 TBSP for P hungry plants, caution for burn)
1 tsp Catalyst
1 tsp Meta K
1 tsp Microblast
________________________________________________________________________

NorthernKronic

This is what i feed my plants every time i water, no breaks in between for plain water, my plants love it..

Veg

1 TBSP Grow
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Cat
1 tsp Micro (every other water)

Flower

1 TBSP Bloom
1 tsp Grow
1 tsp Cat
1 tsp Micro
__________________________________________________________________________

* Personally dont follow a schedule or go near that hard "indoors" using compost w/ dry amendments & teas.

TF.

__________________________________________________________________________

Three Little Birds Organic Information

Earth Juice Fertilizers - Recipes and Discussion Thread


the three little_birds are well know for our love of growing using organic fertilizers . . . And while we are always looking for ways to utilize inexpensive and effective materials like manure, alfalfa meal, kelp meal, and a variety of rock powders . . . we also know that some folks will only use organic growing methods if the option is fairly simple and mess free . . . while organic fertilizers from a bottle will never likely be as cost effective as using rock powders and teas made from alfalfa or guano . . . they do offer great convenience and the good news for growers who demand their organic fertilizers in a bottle . . . is that herbs grown exclusively with today’s liquid organic fertilizers will rival those grown with any method of organic growing we’ve ever used or experienced . . . there’s no need to sacrifice quality for convenience if your pocketbook can withstand the additional cost . . . our favorite among premixed liquid fertilizers is the complete line of Earth Juice products . . . we’ve sampled other fertilizers but always come back to Earth Juice . . . In our opinion they are the “premium standard” against which all other organic ferts must measure themselves . . .

The basic line of Earth Juice fertilizers is 5 different products that can all be used in any combination with each other . . . the ability to “mix and match” any of the 5 products gives us the versatility to deal with any nutrient need (or problem) that might arise . . . here’s a listing of Earth Juice array . . .
Earth Juice Grow
Earth Juice Bloom
Earth Juice Catalyst (called Xatalyst in Canada)
Earth Juice Meta-K
Earth Juice Microblast

The Grow and Bloom formulas can be used alone or in combination with each other . . . no big explanation necessary with those names . . . their intended uses are pretty obvious . . . Catalyst is basically a jazzed up Molasses / carbohydrate product to feed beneficial bacteria and act as a chelate . . . Meta-K is an awesome Potassium supplement . . . and Microblast is one of the most useful and effective micronutrient products we’ve had the pleasure of using . . . in our next post we’ll give a more formal introduction to the various components of the EJ line of ferts . . .

Meet the EJ lineup
here’s the “scoop” . . . the “tech intell” . . . the “lowdown” . . . the “skinny” . . . on what exactly is in those Earth Juice ferts that the 3LB’s talk about so much . . .

EARTH JUICE GROW 2-1-1

this is the “jack of all trades” among the Earth Juice products . . . useful throughout all of vegging and the first couple weeks of vegging . . . Depending on a plant’s growth stage and we use the EJ Grow at concentrations of anywhere from 1 TBSP to 2 TBSP per gallon (and we have pushed it to 3 to 4 TBSP without harm for very heavy feeders)

EARTH JUICE BLOOM 0-3-1

we love our Earth Juice Bloom as a flowering fertilizer and. . . because this product has no Nitrogen it’s especially useful for late stage flowering when it’s desirable to let a plant use up the soil’s nitrogen reserves . . . and for an added boost of Phosphorous at those times when plant’s need an extra boost of P . . . we normally use EJ Bloom at rates between ½ and 2 TBSP per gallon . . .

EARTH JUICE CATALYST

For some odd reason, the Canadian Government requires this product to be labeled as “Xatalyst” . . . but whatever it’s called where you live . . . if you’ve looked over the “Molasses Manual” by the 3LB you may already know the biggest “secret” to this product . . . the sweet sticky goodness of molasses . . . as we’ve said elsewhere molasses feeds microbes and acts as a chelating agent to make micronutrients more available to plants . . . those extra organic goodies in Catalyst like wheat malt and oat bran are just “icing on the cake” . . .

Earth Juice Meta-K 0-0-10

pretty simple product with apparently only a single active ingredient . . . it does have a good measure of Sulfur . . . and it’s very useful to give an extra boost of Potassium when necessary . . . Many organic fertilizers run a little “lean” on K - especially guano based products . . . and EJ Meta-K gives us a way to add that needed Potassium in controlled amounts as needed . . .

Earth Juice Microblast

the Microblast tests out to the following percentages . . . Magnesium (Mg) .05%, Boron (B) .02%, Cobalt (Co) .0005%, Iron (Fe) .10%, Manganese (Mn) .05%, Molybdenum (Mo) .0005%, Zinc (Zn) .05% . . . in our experience it’s a great all around micronutrient supplement that resolves almost every potential micronutrient issue likely to arise . . .
there's your "Earth Juice All Stars" lineup . . .

Earth Juice Recipes

Growth Recipes

we get many PM’s and email requests for our Earth Juice recipes . . . many folks - it seems - would love for us to just spell out the specific nutrient mixes and quantities we use with every feeding . . . . if only life were so simple!
What and how much we use vary's some from strain to strain . . . Perhaps even from plant to plant . . . so it’s just not possible to set a schedule and ignore the plants . . . The best gardeners become “at one” with their plants and feed them according to the plant’s needs . . . even anticipating their needs . . .
our standard mix for vegging plants is usually
1 to 2 TBSP Grow
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst (called Xatalyst in Canada for some odd reason)
(all ingredients are added to a gallon of water . . . )

there are times where we might increase the Bloom portion up to as much as a tablespoon . . . Especially for plants in the early stages of flowering . . . and we can go as high as 3 or even 4 TBSP of Grow for really N hungry plants - but if we increase the Grow fert above 2 TBSP per gallon we usually leave out Bloom & Catalyst )

we also use what we call our "microblast mix" once or twice during the normal life-cycle of vegging plants . . . no big difference between this and the prior mix except this one has an extra boost of Meta K and Microblast . . .
1-2 TBSP Grow
1 tsp Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst
1 tsp Meta-K
1 tsp Microblast

as folks may have observed in our “Growing LUI with the 3LB” thread . . . we also commonly use some kinds of fish fertilizers and kelp concentrates during a plant’s early growth stages . . . we like the combination of enzymes and proteins and hormones the fish and kelp provide together . . . but it’s common for some fish products to be high in heavy metal contaminants like Mercury . . . so the “seafood platter” is a treat we feed our babes and the Earth Juice is their regular diet . . .

Flowering Recipes

early stage flowering plants can often use a fair measure of nitrogen as they stretch . . . so a normal Earth Juice mix in early flowering will look pretty similar to a Grow mix . . . we like to use something along the lines of the following for the first couple weeks of flowering . . .
1 TBSP EJ Grow
1 TBSP EJ Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst (yeah we know - it’s Xatalyst north of a line from Seattle - Duluth - Niagra!)

as flowering progresses we forego the Nitrogen to let our plants use N reserves from the soil as they finish flowering . . . so mixing an Earth Juice Bloom formula can be as easy as . . .
1 TBSP EJ Bloom
1 tsp EJ Catalyst

for really hungry darlings we’ll go as high as 2 TBSP per gallon with the EJ Bloom . . . but pouring it on that heavy can burn light feeders . . . and even with heavy feeders it’s better to build up to stronger concentrations of EJ Bloom over time than to just start in at 2 TBSP per gallon right away as plants begin to flower. . .

and we also have a bloom "micro-mix" that includes Meta-K and Microblast . . . it's used once in a blooming plant's life (or maybe twice in plant’s with a long flowering) . . . Like the growth “microblast mix” it gives an extra boost of Potassium and assorted micronutrients to make sure the plants will want for nothing!
The flowering micro-mix usually goes like this . . .

1 TBSP Bloom
1 tsp Catalyst
1 tsp Meta-K
1 tsp Microblast

that's about all there is to making an awsome plant-enriching organic brew with Earth Juice . . . it's really that simple . . .

Miscellaneous Earth Juice Notes

In theory there’s no need to “flush” organic soil grown herbs before harvest . . . and because organic fertilizers are not salt based like chemical fertilizers . . . traditional techniques for “flushing” wouldn’t carry away nutrient salts in the traditional meaning of the word “flush” anyway . . .
That creates a danger with organic fertilizers that doesn’t exist with salt based chemical fertilizers . . . with salt fertilizers over-fertilizing can be pretty severe . .. But it will show up fairly quickly . . . and the solution (a good flushing) can be enacted pretty quickly too . . .

it’s probably harder for a grower to over-fertilize using organic fertilizers . . . but if they do there’s no quick solution . . . organic fertilizers usually can’t be flushed away like salt fertilizer’s can . . . so if a grower over-fertilizes they will likely have to live with the consequences for a longer term . . .

And when it comes to harvest time . . . we do go ahead and put our organic herbs on a “crash” diet . . . in the past it’s just been pure water for the last two weeks . . . But lately we’ve been experimenting with using Fulvic Acid with the watering during the second week before harvest . . . and then plain water the final week . . . this technique really seems to bring out the fullest potential of our babes . . . but the wonders of Humic Acid and Fulvic Acid are deserving of their own thread . . .

And finally . . . before we finish our initial discussion of Earth Juice Fertilizers . . . we need to touch on the practice of premixing and bubbling Earth Juice fertilizers . . . we get a lot of questions on this topic in private so may as well discuss it here and avoid having to type the same information time and time again . . .

This is the most common question we hear . . .
“Is it absolutely necessary to pre-mix and bubble / aerate Earth Juice fertilizers before use ? ? ?“
Our simple answer is no it’s not necessary at all . . . but Earth Juice will be more efficiently and effectively used if “brewed” for 24-48 hours before use . . . in organic farming the old adage is “feed the soil not the plant” . . . and making your Earth Juice fert mix into an aerated tea maximizes the benefits it can provide for your plants . . . but they will work fine if used without any premixing or bubbling . . .
we would also like to add that if you do not care to go to the bother of premixing and aerating your Earth Juice . . . that you use the fertilizers in smaller / lighter proportions . . .

We also hear this question a lot . . .
“What about the low pH of those Earth Juice fertilizers? - Will that low pH harm my plants?”
And our simple answer is that there’s likely little concern about that issue unless your growing medium is already abnormally acidic . . . but we can also say that the pre-mixing and bubbling/aerating we talked about in the prior question will moderate the pH to an extent . . . and that can allow heavier feedings overall . . .

Our experience with Earth Juice in everything from 3 gallon pots to 30 gallon beds indoors is that a good soil mix with a healthy microbe population will moderate it’s own pH to an extent . . . and the calcite and dolomite lime use commonly in soil mixes will do some of the work as well . . . so we’ve never had any actual problems with pH in our Earth Juice experience . . .

And finally we also get asked . . .
“Can I get by with just Bloom and Grow and not have to go to the expense of the other products?”
And the simple answer is yes of course you can. Catalyst is a molasses based product so the substitution of cheap and easily available Blackstrap molasses will be almost as good as the real thing. . . And although we prefer to use Microblast and Meta-K a few times during a plant’s life . . . we’ve certainly had great grows without them . . .
Not having those extra ingredients available will make your life much more difficult if something does go wrong . . . having a sufficient source of Potassium is a major factor in a plant’s ability to withstand the heat stresses inherent in many grow rooms . . . and micronutrient deficiencies can be hard to diagnose and treat without a “full range” micronutrient fertilizer like Microblast . . . Maxicrop kelp concentrate is the only other substitute we know of that’s as effective at treating a shortage of potassium and trace minerals . . . and many growers prefer to avoid using kelp products during the later stages of flowering . . .
 
Earth Juice Homepage Data

MILD: Small to slow growing medium size plants, apply with each watering or every 2 weeks.

NORMAL: Recommended for most plants, including medium to large plants, apply with each watering or every 2 weeks.

STRONG: Fast growing and large plants, apply with every other watering or every 4 weeks.

EXTRA STRONG: Very large mature plants, trees, and gardens, apply every 4 weeks.

GENERAL USE RATES PER GALLON OF WATER

* Rates may be adjusted according to individual needs.

GROW

Mild = 1/2 Tbsp

Normal = 1 Tbsp

Strong = 2 Tbsp

Extra Strong = 3 Tbsp

BLOOM

Mild = 1/2 Tbsp

Normal = 1 Tbsp

Strong = 2 Tbsp

Extra Strong = 3 Tbsp

CATALYST

Mild = 1 tsp

Normal = 1 Tbsp

Strong = 2 Tbsp

Extra Strong = 3 Tbsp

META-K * Include Meta-K every 4th feeding

Mild = 1/2 tsp

Normal = 1-2 tsp

Strong = 1 Tbsp

Extra Strong = 1 Tbsp

ASSIST * Initially use 4 tsp, follow every 2-4 weeks with 1-2 tsp.

MICROBLAST * Use 2-4 tsp to prevent and correct micro nutrient deficiencies and to perk up plants.

Quick Metric Conversion

5 ml = 1 tsp / 3 tsp = 1 Tbsp = 15 ml / 2 Tbsp = 1 floz = 30ml / 128 floz = 1 gal = 3.785
________________________________________________________________________________

Heres a good EJ read from the Hydro Organics Section here:

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=12353
 
This is just what I needed. I just ordered my Eath Juice Grow-Bloom- and Catalyst.

I really can't thank you enough for this info. I will add my data when I finish a cycle and have something intelligent to say (unlike this post..... :smile:)

Peace out and "thank you" again!
 

przcvctm

Well-known member
Veteran
Thank you, TF for for all this EJ info in one place. I'm going to be transplanting seedlings into Amazon Bloom for the first time. It is a real interesting soil. Looks very dark and rich but not a single nugget of perlite or pumice to be found in it.

I'm wondering if I should just let it be and have faith the makers know what they're doing or should I add 20% big and chunky to be on the safe side?

I've got EJ grow, bloom and catalyst to supplement when the AB exhausts. For that reason I appreciate the info..
 

swampy_nz

Member
Thank you, TF for for all this EJ info in one place. I'm going to be transplanting seedlings into Amazon Bloom for the first time. It is a real interesting soil. Looks very dark and rich but not a single nugget of perlite or pumice to be found in it.

I'm wondering if I should just let it be and have faith the makers know what they're doing or should I add 20% big and chunky to be on the safe side?

I've got EJ grow, bloom and catalyst to supplement when the AB exhausts. For that reason I appreciate the info..

add that perlite bro.fo'sho.:joint:
 
agree with swampy - 20% to 30% perlite & maybe some dolomite lime for the Amazon Bloom soil.

Its got shell lime but maybe a boost of standard lime "dolomite" for the CA / Mag & PH assistance.

A PH / EC "cup soak test" on the Amazon Bloom using RO water would be cool if someone has the supply's.

Ill try to find a bag of it to test.
 
This is just what I needed. I just ordered my Eath Juice Grow-Bloom- and Catalyst.

I really can't thank you enough for this info. I will add my data when I finish a cycle and have something intelligent to say (unlike this post..... :smile:)

Peace out and "thank you" again!


you're really going to love it! EJ is by far one of the best organic lines on the market...The catalyst and damn near everything in there lines up smells crazyly organic! It's come thru tripple fold in the budd's, never had anything give me product that taste so damn good!


I use EJ for all my personally grown smoke!
 

lovelightpower

Active member
Veteran
great piece mate, loads of comprehensive info.

anyone had tried and tested good results from the sugar peak range?
and that briximus maximus, is that essential? your meant to spray it on your plants towards the end of flowering!!!!!!
i hate spraying anything on my plants near the end of flowering, especially not anything with potassium sulphate in it!!!!!!

and i dont usually use so many exclamation marks, it feel good!
 

HerbGlaze

Eugene Oregon
Veteran
Earth Juice user at you acquaintance!

All I can say is, the stuff is cheap and is organic and of all things isn't potent but it really works!
My plants were really pale green and went to a solid green and grew about a foot in two weeks outdoors.
 
and that briximus maximus, is that essential? your meant to spray it on your plants towards the end of flowering!!!!!!

I do have a bottle of essential & its def not the same thing.

Essential is kinda chunky with many wild smell ingredients - its designed for oder control but would "NEVER" spray it in flower. Veg - Hell Yeah, but added a few squirts to flower teas for a flavor enhancer.

The briximus maximus flower spray does sound crazy - I wont be testing it out like that.

BUT today after I sent out all the PMs to call in the troops - emailed High Tech Garden "HTG" to see if they might be able to get all these new items.

They should get back to me soon :)

My biggest interest is in:

Sweet & Heavy Prime – (0-0-1) due to the pure K

Grand Finale – (0-6-3) nice balance for mid flower

Hi-Brix molasses - hopefully a more plant specific molasses than food grade options ?
 

lovelightpower

Active member
Veteran
I do have a bottle of essential & its def not the same thing.

Essential is kinda chunky with many wild smell ingredients - its designed for oder control but would "NEVER" spray it in flower. Veg - Hell Yeah, but added a few squirts to flower teas for a flavor enhancer.

The briximus maximus flower spray does sound crazy - I wont be testing it out like that.

when i said "is that essential" i meant "is that essentially needed" not "is this briximus maximus the same product as essential".

sorry for the confusion.

yeah the briximus maximus does sound crazy.
 
Essential is not Essential - No NPK value on the bottle but has to contain micro nutes.

Within 24hrs after tea application the gobs on the top soil level got covered by fungi "white web"
 
I wondered what the essential spray was for, I thought it might keep critters away. I used to have some EJ, I remember it being kinda thick/malty and strong. I remember the flower being a pink or tan and the brown veg stuff just stunk. I like PBP, it doesn't stink but it cost more and less potent. EJ reminded me of fish emulsions, you said things have changed I think I'd like a free sample. Like a little shampoo bottle, to hand out and give testers?
 
thanks for the heads up on this thread TF. Its great to have all the EJ info in one place, and I didn't even know about their new stuff. K+
Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, and Meta-K have been my staple ferts for three years. I have found that a tsp per gal of fulvic acid makes a noticeable difference in health and vigor.

Do you know if sour smelling catalyst is still good? I've had very sweet smelling bottles, but my last one was sour- I used it outside mostly and didn't notice any ill effects, just curious.
Props for spreadin the word!
Peace.
 
K

Kola Radical

Thanks for sending this great post. Information on EJ products is hard to come by even on their own website.

My only complaint with EJ is that there are no minerals in it and you have to buy it separately. Magnesium and calcium are very important not to mention manganese, zinc, etc.
They could add the minerals to the grow and bloom, but instead they hold it for ransom like most large corporations. But they do grow really good tasting weed, IME.
 
* I would think essential would be a good bug deterrent - thick & spicy it is..

* Spoiled smells - Ill have a go with a few of my bottles.:2cents:

Grow = Swamp Bog Funky
Bloom = Zippy fire flower
Cat = Bold Deep Aged Molasses
Essential = Orgie of tropical flowers & herb extracts

Holey Crap = you can get wanged out smelling that stuff alot.......

Who knows how old this stuff is I got but someone else give it a go - kinda fun actually "except grow" which is the only one that smelled "not nice" in my opinion.

________________________________________________________________

GOOD NEWS


Stopped by my friends at High Tech Garden "HTG SUPPLY" & they said they will special order ANY of the new EJ products listed in the first post.

Email CJ there & tell them "That Dude" sent ya.:bandit:
 

chizarium

Member
I'm in the process of switching from using chemical hydro nutes to growing organically in soil using Earth Juice, and I was wondering something about pH... when I first mix up my recipe in a gallon of water I check the pH and its really low, around 4, but then I put an airstone in the bucket and aerate the mix and after about 36 hours the pH climbs to almost 9

Is it ok to feed my plants the mix as it is with such a high pH or should I be adjusting the pH down before feeding? I read mixed things about the importance of pH when growing organically so I'm confused

Thank you
 

Latest posts

Latest posts

Top