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spider mites

growkind

growkind

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so how do i get rid of these things? If i opened up one of my 35lb co2 bottles in the room would that snuff them out? i got em in my veg room too, i was thinking of setting my moms in my bloom room when i set off the co2. how about any eggs, will the co2 get those too. anyone heard of Dicofol? an ingrediant thats suppose to wipe them out right away. any help is appreciated, currently my plants are 2 weeks into flower, i need to shake these fuckers :cuss:
 
bartender187

bartender187

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First... Research what your up agaisnt. It makes or breaks many growers.

Theres 3 ways to get rid of them that I see.....

Method A ) Pull the plants out of the growroom. Sterilize the growroom with bleach solution. Get yourself 2-3 different mite treatments (SMC, NEEM oil, Safers soap). Every 3-4 days spray every plant that is effected. I spray at 1/2 to 3/4 str and rinse with phed r/o after 5-10min. You need to continue this for around a month, switching up products every week or so. There life cycle is pretty short, i.e. if you dont get every egg they will reappear even after you think they have been killed. They can gain resistance to certain products if you used by themselves.

Method B) Pull the plants out of the growroom. Sterilize the growroom with bleach solution. Use Avid or Floramite... If you use this method research it and its consequences. It will have a lasting effect for 4wks so its recommended to not give this to flowering plants. However it is a one time application I believe.

Method C) Clean house including all infected plants. Sterlize the growroom with a bleach solution. Unlease a bomb. wait a weak re-sterilize, re-bomb. Dont bomb the room if your plants are in it. Start growing and every week or two after the new mite free plants becoming situated start a preventative spray at least through veg.

Keep your grow area clean it will help alot.
 
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I got mites a few years ago... jacked around with everything from super predator mites... various miticides... neem... safers... vacuuming... you name it and I probably tried it.

There is one solution that works and was quick and easy. Go to your local hardware store and get a Hot Shot No Pest Strip. Put it in your garden for a week. Problem solved. After a week in the garden... I put the No Pest Strip in a ziplock baggie and save it for another day.

I wasted a lot of money... and time chasing mites while my girls were being raped by these lil borg-assed fuckers, when all I had to do was go to the hardware store and solve my problem for under ten bucks.
 
bergerbuddy

bergerbuddy

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I agree with EVERYTHING Bartender187 said. I want to add to number 2 only :)


Avid is an EXCELLENT mite killer, if you apply it ONCE it will kill 99 percent of your mites. however there is a very good chance " a very few" will be in your room 2 wks after the spraying.. however you would be hard pressed to find them, and they SHOULD have absolutely no impact on the rest of the plant through budding. By the time they could re-coup you will be done!! at that point I would "clean sterilize" then spray the damn room again a couple of times. Also go ahead spray your moms and any other plants 1 time every 7 days for 3 wks (3 sprayings... spray wall floor too) or 1 time then wait 5 days spray 1 more...call it good! Having used both.. I would do the 3 time thing AND WORRY NO MORE about mites..

If you aquire a atomizer sprayer, an electric spray bottle that shoots out the spray at 50 microns... you will use less than a quart of water mixed with avid on a PRETTY DAMN BIG CROP... killing the bugs on your buds without spraying so damn much poison on them compared to the hand pump spray method using a gallon of water or more. The electric sprayer also creates a fog that covers the whole upper and lower part of leaf making it much more effective.

I have only heard of the CO2 method in a CC blurb that marc emery made saying increasing the co2 in a sealed room for 45 mins to like 5000 ppm or something like that killed all the mites.... I have never tried this, nor do I know anyone who has, but it does sound interesting. However I'm skeptical until I see more definitive reliable info... I know the method I described above works with minimal/no effect on smoke quality if harvest is 6+weeks away u use the atomizer sprayer and u apply only once..

Peace
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bergerbuddy

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Maistre are you saying that you put these no pest strips in a room and the mites will crawl off the plants onto the strips???

I have never heard of this??
 
growkind

growkind

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bergerbuddy said:
Maistre are you saying that you put these no pest strips in a room and the mites will crawl off the plants onto the strips???

I have never heard of this??
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Yeah i was wondering about that too, but thanks for all the responses, ill have to try em to see if they work. ive been fairly lucky with not getting any problems, but have been visiting a fellow grower the last few months, who failed to tell me he had a mite problem, and being where i live, its winter, this is the only place i can see of getting them from. if left untreated, will they affect yield?
 
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This is not a stick strip... I'm saying in less than a week they will all be gone... usually 2-3 days.
 
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no pest didn't do it for me. only stalled them for a week or so.

Floramite SC is all you need. all dead.

$250 a quart
 
MTF-Sandman

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I agree that Avid or Floramite are the way to go...but you gotta be careful using that stuff in flowering. Personally I wouldn't dream of using them after 2 weeks into flowering even though their supposed to break down in under a month. If you're later in flowering, you shouldn't be spraying them with anything anyhow since it could easily cause mold to form.

So that pretty much leaves you with vapor treatments (NPS, Dr. Doom,etc) or beneficials. NPS slowed my herd down, but they didn't wipe em out...never tried the bombs, so no feedback on them.

The Co2 thing was 10,000ppm for 1 hour I believe...but that poses a risk to people in the area since it will deplete the available O2 for you to breathe and requires a sealed room to be effective. This would not be effective on the eggs tho.

Personally, I'd try to just control the flowering ones by lowering the temps and raising the humidity and maybe drop a NPS in there and hit the vegging ones with a miticide like Avid or Floramite. It's possible (but not likely) that you'll need to spray them 2x, but they should be 95%+ gone after 1 spraying if not totally gone. Then as soon as you harvest and get the bud outta there, sterilize the room very thoroughly and continue as normal.
 
bergerbuddy

bergerbuddy

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growkind said:
Yeah i was wondering about that too, but thanks for all the responses, ill have to try em to see if they work. ive been fairly lucky with not getting any problems, but have been visiting a fellow grower the last few months, who failed to tell me he had a mite problem, and being where i live, its winter, this is the only place i can see of getting them from. if left untreated, will they affect yield?
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The problem is, if your not use to seeing mites in your garden, and don't have ALOT of experience with them, then by the time you SEE them, they are quite a ways along, let me ask you this: are they colonizing?? are they webbing on any of the plants?? are they on ALL of the plants??

If the answer is yes to even ONE of these questions.. then YES 6 more wks will really affect your plants/yeild/quality

Try the atomizer thing, you will hardly be using ANY avid, and BTW I endorse strongly the use of FLORAMITE or PENTAC, PENTAC/AQUA or AVID.
If you can find it.. Pentac/Aqua is by far the best.... wont hurt you, and can use it alot later than the others mentioned.... problem is I haven't been able to buy it for bout 5 yrs now..

Frankely the NPS Idea is a great one, however there is no possible way that it will CLEAR UP a mite INFESTATION, however if your mite problem is not sever I think that might help keep them at bay..

I've dealt with mites on and off for many many moons and they are nearly impossible to get rid of once established... UNLESS you use one of the products mentioned above... NOTHING ELSE is 100% IMHO :)

Peace
BB
 
bartender187

bartender187

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Good discussion, looks like we got this guy fixed up. Best of luck with your fight brotha. Personally the pest strips only reduced levels for me, but I did not purchase that "Hot-Shot" brand.
 
growkind

growkind

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thanks everyone for the help. how about lowering the temps majorly. i wont be able to do it in the individual veg/bloom rooms, but if i was to put my moms in the garage, cause its cold up here in the midwest, drop the teps to 45 degrees(heated garage) for a couple days, and just battle the mites in my bloom room with what you guys mentioned? would that work? I don't see no webbing or anything, and they seem to like my bubba plants more than others, but looking at the leaves, i dont see many, but i want to shake these bastards as quickly as i can.
 
MTF-Sandman

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I dunno about sticking them in a 45f garage...kinda sounds like a bad idea IMO. If you can keep the temps in the lower 70's and the RH in the 60-70% range it should help alot tho. If nothing else, drop a cool mist humidifier in the veg area...that'll do wonders for slowing them down...but you're still gonna need to treat em to prevent a new wave from getting going the flowering room after you pull this harvest out.
 
afroman25

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i was watering my plants today and i noticed some spots on them i think they are mites but i look under the leaf and don't see anything are the mites visable by the naked eye?or will i need a microscope to see them i'm 3 weeks into 12/12
 
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