goldcountryguy2
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Mendo420....your plants look fine...but honestly I don't see your plants to be larger than average for your region....Id give u a compliment but u seem to have yourself covered on that end...
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looking good Mendo those are enormous…are you still skipping the foliars/teas this year or have you had to feed them yet? super dark green too!
looks a lot like what im seeing prop..
I'll post some pics, but im with bamboo here. Treading in new waters..
is your yellowing also in the middle/top of the plant? can anyone figure out why its only happening in this part of the plant whereas the sides stay green?
soil tests submitted today, should have results early next week. went through FGL because its local walk-in and easy, but I'm going to send a backup sample to logans as well.
most of the gorilla glue row is still looking great, just a few stragglers that got split by the winds few months back and never really recovered.
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That second one there has been drooping like that for weeks. I'm surprised she hasnt died yet. Shes actually putting on flowers now. Ive tried letter her dry out bc I thought she was water logged. Nothing. Soaked her in with actinovate. Nothing. Shes barely hanging on. Saddest thing to look at.
the direction this thread has gone from the beginning is pretty funny, Tom Hill posts up a mix that is proven to support big plants...then a bunch of rogues come in here with their own agendas seeking validation for how they do things... and here we are today
how many people having problems have actually tried the Tom Hill mix? why does everyone think they're going to be the next genius and unlock the mysteries of chemistry by rummaging through the ramblings of a bunch of stoners... "brix dude"... my advice is to follow directions and the techniques from those people who were here before you who have done years of experimenting on their own and have documented the results for proof...do all the research you want in the mean time but don't tweak what seem like small details of a recipe to you and then act like the victim because you thought, "needs more phosphorus bro" ...it isn't hard to get plants to get big, there's just a lot of dumb people that try to understand how plants do what they do that make it complicated to the poor souls who give them a chance to speak and actually listen to what they say...
things decay, with a little arranging by us we can direct nature and get some 'compost' going, mix that in with something to aerate it and some peat for water holding. add some food to get it going and let it ride...
someone wise once said, "it aint rocket science"
nothing special... it might be possible to get big plants using lots of special products you can buy ..."Sea Shield brah..." but it is definitely possible to get big plants without doing that... so why would you waste your money... it ain't easier I'll tell you that...
I hope in 2015 we see a "back to basics" movement
how many people having problems have actually tried the Tom Hill mix? why does everyone think they're going to be the next genius and unlock the mysteries of chemistry by rummaging through the ramblings of a bunch of stoners... "brix dude"... my advice is to follow directions and the techniques from those people who were here before you who have done years of experimenting on their own and have documented the results for proof...do all the research you want in the mean time but don't tweak what seem like small details of a recipe to you and then act like the victim because you thought, "needs more phosphorus bro" ...it isn't hard to get plants to get big, there's just a lot of dumb people that try to understand how plants do what they do that make it complicated to the poor souls who give them a chance to speak and actually listen to what they say...
things decay, with a little arranging by us we can direct nature and get some 'compost' going, mix that in with something to aerate it and some peat for water holding. add some food to get it going and let it ride...
someone wise once said, "it aint rocket science"
nothing special... it might be possible to get big plants using lots of special products you can buy ..."Sea Shield brah..." but it is definitely possible to get big plants without doing that... so why would you waste your money... it ain't easier I'll tell you that...
I hope in 2015 we see a "back to basics" movement
I fail to see where your results are earth shattering Boobs ... your plants look good but bro , they start at knee high on some one who is under 6' tall , that plant is probably 8' tall and 10' wide...Some peoples plants are already 12+ wide and 12+ tall...Using some Sea Shield brah...that even a broke hippie like you can afford...$75 for 5 gallons...1 Oz per gallon...YUP!! I'll take some more Please!
In 2015 you'll see sap nutrient analysis become more prevalent and available and hopefully we'll start to get an idea of what a really healthy plant and soil look like and what that relationship does in the long run...right now we're just getting to that point...
To answer your question , yes I have used the 100 lbs super green 50 lbs bone meal 20 lbs gypsum half pallet BG 1 bag perlite mix....It works pretty OK...You need to do a bunch of Foliar to keep things happy because it's short a ton on micros and a few other things , but hey that's what BRIX MIX was for.....
In 2015 you'll see sap nutrient analysis become more prevalent and available and hopefully we'll start to get an idea of what a really healthy plant and soil look like and what that relationship does in the long run...right now we're just getting to that point...
To answer your question , yes I have used the 100 lbs super green 50 lbs bone meal 20 lbs gypsum half pallet BG 1 bag perlite mix....It works pretty OK...You need to do a bunch of Foliar to keep things happy because it's short a ton on micros and a few other things , but hey that's what BRIX MIX was for.....
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I'm still not sold on all of AEA's lineup, although I am sold on John Kempf's way of thinking, but Sea Shield is straight up stanky crab/shrimp meal and at the price per gallon I am *very* happy to have it introduced to my foliar and waterings.
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speak for yourself, I agree YOU are just maybe... approaching... t-minus 10 years... 11 years... 15 years... (wait a minute off course...! BANG! blasted apart in a meteor) an understanding of what a healthy plant/soil looks like. from your picture all I see is tons of dead leaves drooping in the inside hanging down below and woody stalks.
people that read this thread and laugh at you have known for years what a healthy soil looks like...looks like a bunch of centipedes predating around, worms wiggling... mulch...
normally I wouldn't even respond to such a dumb post but this is too funny
Maybe using your hippie meter. I'm talking quantifiable results ...with sap analysis and soil analysis showing relationship of plant to soil and soil to plant...
No amount of bugs or mulch will tell you weather or not you are building healthy soil !! LOL!
He said "I see dead leaves and woody stalk"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha !!!
No amount of bugs or mulch will tell you weather or not you are building healthy soil !! LOL!
He said "I see dead leaves and woody stalk"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha !!!
When the top 1/3 is fucked up and the rest is looking good , its usually a root disease.
goldcountryguy2
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Someone took it personal lol.....I love self demolition....that hippy has more knowledge and understanding of what he's doing than u can ever hope to kid...
I am a hippie bro, when I make a decision of what amendment or product to use my desire to "push the envelope" doesn't inevitably trump all considerations of the impact to source said materiel has on the earth and ultimately all of us. So keep using your gmo soy bean amino sprays and have fun with that, we all know that what ever is most sustainable will stand up to time, by definition... Besides, it's easy to just order things from all corners of the world, but to source locally and make use with what you can and then and come away with your ethics intact and then STILL DO BETTER than people that didn't care about such things... that's where I want to be
oh, and the semi-big healthy plant is a clue that the soil is healthy, to me at least...maybe I need one of your meters to tell me otherwise...
goldcountryguy2
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No amount of bugs or mulch will tell you weather or not you are building healthy soil !! LOL!
He said "I see dead leaves and woody stalk"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha !!![/QUOTE]
Yah. Spray more aea... those bugs don't know shit...look at the crowd smirk and chuckle....
He said "I see dead leaves and woody stalk"
Hahahahahahahahahahaha !!![/QUOTE]
Yah. Spray more aea... those bugs don't know shit...look at the crowd smirk and chuckle....
coots mix, I was just trying to illustrate a point.
edit: regarding the size of the plant in that picture, you can clearly see the 8ft section of hortinova starts one foot up from the base of the plant and goes up to where the board is on the left. the plant is then several feet above that so it is at least 12 ft tall. Been following BYF's too long to know when someone is exaggerating a plant's height... pretty easy to see when you know the hortinova sizes...
edit: regarding the size of the plant in that picture, you can clearly see the 8ft section of hortinova starts one foot up from the base of the plant and goes up to where the board is on the left. the plant is then several feet above that so it is at least 12 ft tall. Been following BYF's too long to know when someone is exaggerating a plant's height... pretty easy to see when you know the hortinova sizes...
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