They have said MULTIPLE times they DO NOT use a Tamisium.
And like Kcar said, there is a CARESAVER pump shown. BIG BRIGHT YELLOW THING.
Like I said, If you KNOW what you're looking for, you KNOW what they're using.
Any Idea How x_tracted Does It?
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They have said MULTIPLE times they DO NOT use a Tamisium.
And like Kcar said, there is a CARESAVER pump shown. BIG BRIGHT YELLOW THING.
Like I said, If you KNOW what you're looking for, you KNOW what they're using.
Your right! I stand corrected, I'm suprised they choose a unit that uses oil for there recovery pump, but I guess its for the fire marshals. I would like to add they do show a Tamisium on there Instagram in there earlier days. Thanks for the info Kcar!
Yeah, I saw the Tami, too.
I also noticed their early extracts were alot darker
than their newer stuff...
Didn't mean to offend the ever so knowledgeable "dybert" lol
Sorry, I didn't mean to come off as a dick. I use the caresaver in house as well, and the oil is our only concern. So far, we have not had any break downs or problems, and no liquid has ever been sucked back into the pump.
And like you said, it probably is to appease the fire marshals.
HighStateToke
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I spy both a Tami and a Caresaver(full o oil), obviously they have used different equipment throughout their extracting career. I see no use bickering about what type of system they use as it clearly changes. I also spy an extractor made from sanitary parts. They've used all kinds of extractors.
I think the primary contributor to the color of their slabs is how the material was grown and harvested, and most likely immediately processed.
The only thing which stumps me is how they are able to produce shatter right after pouring out..
Also..the slick mats are laughable. They may be platinum cured but most folks are unaware of how silicone reacts to terpenes...
I think the primary contributor to the color of their slabs is how the material was grown and harvested, and most likely immediately processed.
The only thing which stumps me is how they are able to produce shatter right after pouring out..
Also..the slick mats are laughable. They may be platinum cured but most folks are unaware of how silicone reacts to terpenes...
I find this thread VERY interesting...
critter1685
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Will you enlighten us with how silicone reacts to terpenes?
My apologies as well, there is no reason to bicker. They are definitely producing some killer products. I agree with HST that the freshness of there material has a lot to do with the color of there product.
The caresaver is intruiging to me being that it's rated for r-600a and I'm curious to hear how it works for you! Where I'm at there's an appion and now a reftec diablo.
The caresaver is intruiging to me being that it's rated for r-600a and I'm curious to hear how it works for you! Where I'm at there's an appion and now a reftec diablo.
Where is the evidence it is stable after it is poured? Looks like they just left a lot of solvent in the collection bucket. Our extracts shatter up once they cool, even before they go into the oven.
The muffin is the same thing, they just pull a vac in the collection bucket. That's what our extracts look like immediately after they go into the oven. They most likely do that to prevent messes in the oven from huge expansions. Sometimes we have to take out the other racks
Where is the evidence it is stable after it is poured? Looks like they just left a lot of solvent in the collection bucket. Our extracts shatter up once they cool, even before they go into the oven.
The muffin is the same thing, they just pull a vac in the collection bucket. That's what our extracts look like immediately after they go into the oven. They most likely do that to prevent messes in the oven from huge expansions. Sometimes we have to take out the other racks
They've actually never showed something poured being stable. AFAIK
They used to pour it out...
They now "prepurge" and it comes out in hard fairly stable chunks...
I don't think they pour anymore and I don't think you can get the stable almost shatter from something thats pouring out.
You're right, all they're doing (IMO) is vaccing it in the collection pot first.
I've been told from several inside sources that they DO use propane.
I believe their product to be of high quality and safe for consumption. I've smoked a lot of it, and I've interacted with the owners a few times.
I do however believe they are very misleading by showing all the "N-Tane" labeling.
Bold statement... Is this the answer to the color riddle?
I still say it's the material.
SPR states fresh, frozen material is the most "aromatic". I'm guessing that means terpy. I'm also guess that means lighter color. We've never ran fresh material, so I don't know if this is true. Anyone had experience? I'm looking at Grey Wolf
PeopleWish
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So I have some facts not after digging. We have been speaking frequently with the owner of a WA company that works very closely with extracted.
The gas depends on the material. For example propane is used for older cure material. When propane is used the vibrant colors and light terpenes are retained because of the ultra low boiling point of the solvent.
They run Extraction Tek systems and csresavers. Way over priced systems they told me each set up cost 25 grand. The do not use tamesiums
They use very large pumps to bring purge times way down.
To achieve the muffin the use a warm water circulator around the pot during propane extractions and pull a super hard vac. This and a few other steps will yield the stable muffin.
They also do propane butane blends. It has a lot to do with how you handle and prep your material as well. We have broken the code and now producing the same caliber oil as xtracted good luck everyone.
The gas depends on the material. For example propane is used for older cure material. When propane is used the vibrant colors and light terpenes are retained because of the ultra low boiling point of the solvent.
They run Extraction Tek systems and csresavers. Way over priced systems they told me each set up cost 25 grand. The do not use tamesiums
They use very large pumps to bring purge times way down.
To achieve the muffin the use a warm water circulator around the pot during propane extractions and pull a super hard vac. This and a few other steps will yield the stable muffin.
They also do propane butane blends. It has a lot to do with how you handle and prep your material as well. We have broken the code and now producing the same caliber oil as xtracted good luck everyone.
PeopleWish
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BagAppeal
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Something like this maybe??
http://www.fusionchef.de/en/1_3_2_diamond_fusionchef.html
All the best
BagAppeal
http://www.fusionchef.de/en/1_3_2_diamond_fusionchef.html
All the best
BagAppeal
We have been using a Sous Vide thermal circulator (and many other kitchen toys) since day one. It is super versatile, and my favorite, super SAFE.
Thank you PeopleWish for giving us some cookie crumbles. It sure would be nice to nerd out with you guys about this stuff and hear a bit more... heehee
Regardless, I'm glad to know that we are very well on the right track with our theories. Sounds like experience is the only thing separating Sandwich Artists from Extraction Craftsmen.
Work!
Thank you PeopleWish for giving us some cookie crumbles. It sure would be nice to nerd out with you guys about this stuff and hear a bit more... heehee
Regardless, I'm glad to know that we are very well on the right track with our theories. Sounds like experience is the only thing separating Sandwich Artists from Extraction Craftsmen.
Work!
We've found that young Sativas produce lighter extracts than older harvests, or Indicas.
The lightest colors were from fresh cut and frozen.
Propane does produce a lighter colored extract, and is easier to purge than butane, so it is easier to retain the monoterpenes.
It also takes about twice as long to recover in our recycling systems.
We also get very light extracts using 5/7 day dried material, and super chilled butane. With the storage tank in denatured alcohol and dry ice, the temperatures of the butane used for extraction,m can be dropped to between -50 and -70C.
At those low temperatures, it extracts less polar elements and plant waxes.
The polar elements tend to be more brightly colored than non polar elements. If you do a column fractionation, starting with non polar and reaching to the polar elements, it will run from light yellow, to dark opaque amber. The lighter fractions contain the cannabinoids and the darker ones do not.
PS: Check the May issue of High Times for our subzero Skywalker extraction pictures, which were virtually transparent. Compare it to the Green Crack pictures of material extracted exactly the same way, and notice the color differences
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