Let’s talk nanners/hermie

[trixP]

This is the second time I grow this purple
Urkle
Pheno and it had shown a nanner at end of week 6, the first time grew it
I saw one end week 8

I grow in tents I had a small
Light leak in the back and one night I used the flashlight on my phone maybe it was that

However we have been having crazy fluctuations in temps and humidities 2 days each time I could not keep my vpd stable 1.2/3/4 at night during these days

Just how much stress is needed til they herm

Do you guys think it’s genetic ?

Same pheno that showed up first 2 times now

I also cleaned everything down first time with water
And bleach

 

[Artistick Seeds]

This is the second time I grow this purple
Urkle
Pheno and it had shown a nanner at end of week 6, the first time grew it
I saw one end week 8

I grow in tents I had a small
Light leak in the back and one night I used the flashlight on my phone maybe it was that

However we have been having crazy fluctuations in temps and humidities 2 days each time I could not keep my vpd stable 1.2/3/4 at night during these days

Just how much stress is needed til they herm

Do you guys think it’s genetic ?

Same pheno that showed up first 2 times now

I also cleaned everything down first time with water
And bleach

It's genetic, but whether it is expressed or not will also depend on environmental factors. Some plants do not express it when grown outdoors and will do so when grown under lamps, etc.

 

[trixP]

And the last time there was an environment factor and the last week was the same
Deal I don’t have a dehu and still
Waiting on ac infitnity to drop one


Just how much light stress
Environment stress is really needed ??

I’ve only found one yesterday and I removed it, I also notice this same
Pheno is going red and purple on the exact same week it did first round

Rlly sick pheno insane crystal

 

[Artistick Seeds]

For some it is stress, I rather call it environmental conditions that vary... As in nature, no two years are the same, the conditions change, sometimes similar, sometimes different.
If you like this phenotype, keep it, enjoy yourself and remove the few bananas when necessary. Let's not be obsessed by a few balls.

 

[Tsubaki30]

It’s not only light leaks and environmental issues that may bring the nanners out. Too strong feed especially nitrogen can cause stress a well

 

[Artistick Seeds]

It’s not only light leaks and environmental issues that may bring the nanners out. Too strong feed especially nitrogen can cause stress a well

When I talk about environmental factors, soil and nutrients are part of it of course. Anything that differs from the growing parameters with which the variety was obtained will create stress.

 

[Hrpuffnkush]

This is the second time I grow this purple
Urkle
Pheno and it had shown a nanner at end of week 6, the first time grew it
I saw one end week 8

I grow in tents I had a small
Light leak in the back and one night I used the flashlight on my phone maybe it was that

However we have been having crazy fluctuations in temps and humidities 2 days each time I could not keep my vpd stable 1.2/3/4 at night during these days

Just how much stress is needed til they herm

Do you guys think it’s genetic ?

Same pheno that showed up first 2 times now

I also cleaned everything down first time with water
And bleach

Banana here and there no Biggie , Its stress induced , intersex , The real Urkle is not a hermaphrodite , so no worries there ... just has to adapt to its new growing environment , it will go away ... and cannabis is inter sex have the ability to change based on environmental factors , Hermaphrodite's are completely different thing , and should be avoided

 

[trixP]

Banana here and there no Biggie , Its stress induced , intersex , The real Urkle is not a hermaphrodite , so no worries there ... just has to adapt to its new growing environment , it will go away ... and cannabis is inter sex have the ability to change based on environmental factors , Hermaphrodite's are completely different thing , and should be avoided

I run the same feed regimen as the first grow on them

On week 6 so I’ve been decreasing nutes

 

[trixP]

It’s not only light leaks and environmental issues that may bring the nanners out. Too strong feed especially nitrogen can cause stress a well

Nitrogen is low on week 6

 

[Tsubaki30]

It’s good to talk in npk numbers, nutrient strength as in ml/L or ec value because ‘low’ is a relative term. Some people like to give their plant a max ec of around 1.5 some people a pushing over ec 2.5, so ‘low’ means different things to different folks

Do you use a grow medium or is it hydro?

 

[trixP]

It’s good to talk in npk numbers, nutrient strength as in ml/L or ec value because ‘low’ is a relative term. Some people like to give their plant a max ec of around 1.5 some people a pushing over ec 2.5, so ‘low’ means different things to different folks

Do you use a grow medium or is it hydro?

Media grower

4L mix instead of 3.8 ( easier for me to do )

3.8ml per gal nitrogen at week 6 ( now on 7 which has the same value )

Instead of 3.8 I run 4.0 as I only have 0.5 / 1 ML dropper again makes it easier for me to do

Say it’s 3.8 and than 2.8 and than 3.8

Micro grow bloom ( GH grower )

I will do 4/3/4 to balance values again easier for me to mix

2 pheno of the same
Geno

Only 1 pheno nanners and the same
Pheno both runs

 

[dogzter]

It is a hermie plant then.

 

[Tsubaki30]

If one plant grows few nanners and others from the same line won’t with the same feed strength it means the nanner plant is more sensitive.

A proper hermaphrodite (grows both female pistils /bracts but also male pollen sacks) and a plant growing few nanners are still two different things in practice. The few nanners may disappear if most of the stress factors are taken out

Out of the seeds i have bought and grown i have seen a lot more plants growing few nanners than i have seen fully stable ones, so few nanners on plants is quite common.

Few nanners isn’t such a big deal, especially if those come up a week or two before harvest. Just pick them nanners out and plan your grow so that it won’t be an issue regarding the other plants in your garden. I have keeprs that grow few nanners in late bloom(..lowering feed strength made them show later and less in number) I’d rather keep a top level plant with few late nanners than a stable plant that is just average smoke.





I gathered from your older posts that you’re using GH Flora, is that correct?

And you’re feeding slightly less than their Light Feed regiment, did i get that right? If so then your feed isn’t too strong for average cannabis plant. With landraces and sativas you could lower it a little more still but for most modern hybrids it should be on ok level

https://generalhydroponics.com/products/floraseries/

I have never used that line but looking at their npk numbers you could lower the nitrogen lever at mid way bloom cycle (after 4 weeks of bloom that is) by dropping the Floragro component out and replacing that part with the same amount of Florabloom

So if understood it correctly and your feed atm is 4ml Micro, 3ml Gro and 4ml Bloom per 4 liters of water, then just change it to 4ml Micro and 7ml Bloom per 4 liters of water and you get the N level lower a bit

 

[Lester Beans]

Why not get the environment fixed and go from there? Back off the nitrogen after 3rd week of flower. With GH the 3-2-1 for veg and 1-2-3 for flower is proven and works great.

 

[Tsubaki30]

Why not get the environment fixed and go from there? Back off the nitrogen after 3rd week of flower. With GH the 3-2-1 for veg and 1-2-3 for flower is proven and works great.

For modern 10-11 weekers i start giving less Grow component after week 3 also, the N rich stuff but i don’t make a huge drop yet during week 4 because i want nice bit of N to be there when they really start shooting out buds. .. but already on week 5 i make a bigger N drop and start upping the levels of P and K

 

[trixP]

Update don’t know if I got lucky but I haven’t seen anything since

 

[trixP]

Why not get the environment fixed and go from there? Back off the nitrogen after 3rd week of flower. With GH the 3-2-1 for veg and 1-2-3 for flower is proven and works great.

Pulling air from
Outside

We have been having crazy fluctuations I need a dehu and I’m waiting g for my
Shop
To receive an order of outlets that match my
Controller so I can use a non branded unit with ac I controller

Rumour was they were going to release they’re dehu March 5th

 

[trixP]

If one plant grows few nanners and others from the same line won’t with the same feed strength it means the nanner plant is more sensitive.

A proper hermaphrodite (grows both female pistils /bracts but also male pollen sacks) and a plant growing few nanners are still two different things in practice. The few nanners may disappear if most of the stress factors are taken out

Out of the seeds i have bought and grown i have seen a lot more plants growing few nanners than i have seen fully stable ones, so few nanners on plants is quite common.

Few nanners isn’t such a big deal, especially if those come up a week or two before harvest. Just pick them nanners out and plan your grow so that it won’t be an issue regarding the other plants in your garden. I have keeprs that grow few nanners in late bloom(..lowering feed strength made them show later and less in number) I’d rather keep a top level plant with few late nanners than a stable plant that is just average smoke.





I gathered from your older posts that you’re using GH Flora, is that correct?

And you’re feeding slightly less than their Light Feed regiment, did i get that right? If so then your feed isn’t too strong for average cannabis plant. With landraces and sativas you could lower it a little more still but for most modern hybrids it should be on ok level

https://generalhydroponics.com/products/floraseries/

I have never used that line but looking at their npk numbers you could lower the nitrogen lever at mid way bloom cycle (after 4 weeks of bloom that is) by dropping the Floragro component out and replacing that part with the same amount of Florabloom

So if understood it correctly and your feed atm is 4ml Micro, 3ml Gro and 4ml Bloom per 4 liters of water, then just change it to 4ml Micro and 7ml Bloom per 4 liters of water and you get the N level lower a bit

I run the proline this charting as I mention I round off the numbers and balance the main flora trio
The additives all stay the same via the chart

I run the aggressive feeds as I am dialled and a powrful
Led sryle
Grower

 

[GainesvilleGreen]

I get them on a seed run around 5 weeks of flower. Maybe a couple of sacs underneath. Spray water and remove.
if it's really bad I'll just kill the plant

 

[trixP]

The only additive that is different is calmâg

I run 5ml as my water is 0ppm and cut to 2.5