Germany to legalize cannabis

[AceHaze]

Unfortunately the limit is 50 g dry Cannabis per person (18yo) per household...If you freeze the buds before they are dry or turn your plants into Rosin, it´s fine with the law...we have to find the loopholes!
And you can´t control it either- as long as they don´t have any proof, that you are above the limit or dealing, they can´t search your house. This is a step forward at least...

 

[Bush Dr]

How does it work regarding clones, seedlings etc?
Does anything with roots become a “plant“ in the count?

 

[Cuddles]

How does it work regarding clones, seedlings etc?
Does anything with roots become a “plant“ in the count?

I think the rule is 3 plants in flower. so cloning should be okay

 

[Hasch]

Maybe they mean 50g of BHO

In the German sub we've already tried to find a "solution".

When they bust you, weigh the stash and come up way over the legal limit we just tell them it's not finished yet. Next step is further drying and then sifting to get the hash
Or rosin is the goal...

 

[Cuddles]

In the German sub we've already tried to find a "solution".

When they bust you, weigh the stash and come up way over the legal limit we just tell them it's not finished yet. Next step is further drying and then sifting to get the hash
Or rosin is the goal...

making oil could also be a good thing imo. anyone else would thinck it´s some sort of sauce,lol
I´ ve never put any into the freezer but it should be okay to do so, right?

 

[Lehmi]

and then sifting to get the hash
Or rosin is the goal...

Is it no longer the case that high-percentage extracts are not permitted?

(No matter how the extracts are made now)

 

[Bush Dr]

Is it no longer the case that high-percentage extracts are not permitted?

(No matter how the extracts are made now)

This was my understanding

 

[CannaT]

Knowing the Germans The German mentality that strives for perfectionism. It seems to me that this vague law is more of a political fabrication to keep the voters and scare them, if the others come to power, weed will not be legal. I don't see any kind of financial basis for large industrialists to want to participate in this, and usually what they don't participate in, such ideas don't live very long. Or maybe I'm just a pessimist today when I think about it.

 

[Cuddles]

Knowing the Germans The German mentality that strives for perfectionism. It seems to me that this vague law is more of a political fabrication to keep the voters and scare them, if the others come to power, weed will not be legal. I don't see any kind of financial basis for large industrialists to want to participate in this, and usually what they don't participate in, such ideas don't live very long. Or maybe I'm just a pessimist today when I think about it.

I just had a quick look and th next general election in Germany will be in or around October 2025. But then again, a lot of morons are against it already. So yeah, maybe they just want to keep the critics a little sweet and give the new law or rather the new situation time to develop, to see what happens before they take it up a notch.

 

[early_bird]

Is it no longer the case that high-percentage extracts are not permitted?

(No matter how the extracts are made now)

Extracts are not forbidden, just the act of making them. There is no definition what a extract is in the law.

But Rosin is not, because it´s just made with heat and pressure which is explicitly stated as legal doing so.
So may rosin becomes very popular soon here in Germany, because the 50g limit counts for Plant leaves, Buds, Hash and Rosin equal.

So is also the 50g limit not legally possible anyway, because theoretically all plant material counts after harvest.
In the end we will see, a lot of this nonsense has still to get filled with life and we will see what happens in Reality.

 

[early_bird]

The other point almost nobody is talking about is that with the new law the prescription of cannabis as medicine is super easy.
I wonder why almost nobody see this way coming here. German media at least is just talking about growing 3 plants and clubs, but i guess these will not have a lot of practical meaning.
Some german newspaper are celebrating the law as "anti-commercial", nice if it would been so, guess they will wonder.

Headache, Insomnia, uhh my back - you can just super easy get it then. I guess even from your online doc, which is already possible today under the old law.

The Canna-Pharma also allowed to produce so much medical cannabis as they want and not just 2 Tons a year like now.

So i see a tenfold in cannabis patients coming and a situation where it´s easier to get it from your drugstore than it would with cannabis headshops. Because the drug store has home delivery

So hope nobody really cares about home growers any more, if it is a more a rare phenomenon in the end.
50 Gramms Limit ? Who really going to care if you can legally get 100 Gramms a month from your "online doc"
Or just put your weed in a can where the "legal weed" has been in before and say that´s medicine. Who can really tell ?

Hope for the police it´s getting so frustrating to hunt cannabis fans, so they just give up doing so.

 

[Cuddles]

The other point almost nobody is talking about is that with the new law the prescription of cannabis as medicine is super easy.
I wonder why almost nobody see this way coming here. German media at least is just talking about growing 3 plants and clubs, but i guess these will not have a lot of practical meaning.
Some german newspaper are celebrating the law as "anti-commercial", nice if it would been so, guess they will wonder.

Headache, Insomnia, uhh my back - you can just super easy get it then. I guess even from your online doc, which is already possible today under the old law.

The Canna-Pharma also allowed to produce so much medical cannabis as they want and not just 2 Tons a year like now.

So i see a tenfold in cannabis patients coming and a situation where it´s easier to get it from your drugstore than it would with cannabis headshops. Because the drug store has home delivery

So hope nobody really cares about home growers any more, if it is a more a rare phenomenon in the end.
50 Gramms Limit ? Who really going to care if you can legally get 100 Gramms a month from your "online doc"
Or just put your weed in a can where the "legal weed" has been in before and say that´s medicine. Who can really tell ?

what´s an online doc?
Don´t the doctors have to examine you in person before they can precribe you anything?

 

[early_bird]

I don´t know what´s the legal situation but we have a lot of online doctors now which describe cannabis already today under the restrictive law, like Canncura (you can google it) or others.
But you have to pay for the doctor (like 100 EUR one time and then 20 EUR for each receipe, something like this, depends on company, etc.)

So guess under the new law it´s just getting easier. Today you must have been to an other doctor before with the same issue and tried an other medicine. If it "hasn´t worked" you can consult one of the online doctor companies and you get your cannabis.

 

[Cuddles]

I don´t know what´s the legal situation but we have a lot of online doctors now which describe cannabis already today under the restrictive law, like Canncura (you can google it) or others.
But you have to pay for the doctor (like 100 EUR one time and then 20 EUR for each receipe, something like this, depends on company, etc.)

So guess under the new law it´s just getting easier. Today you must have been to an other doctor before with the same issue and tried an other medicine. If it "hasn´t worked" you can consult one of the online doctor companies and you get your cannabis.

yes but it´s a sucky sytem, isn´t ? And it´s a lot to pay too imo
Also, there is no guarantee that the strain you end up with is the right one for you, is it?

Soon german medical and other users will be able to pick and try out a variety of strains.
You wait and see -this time next year Germany will be flooded and drowning in weed, LOL

Do you happen to know how much weed costs to buy in Germany these days? I bet it hasn´t been exempt from price inflation either, right?

 

[Lehmi]

But Rosin is not, because it´s just made with heat and pressure which is explicitly stated as legal doing so.

Do you have the exact legal text, in which paragraphs is this dealt with and how does the assumption arise that rosin is not an extract?

 

[coconutcurry]

Knowing the Germans The German mentality that strives for perfectionism. It seems to me that this vague law is more of a political fabrication to keep the voters and scare them, if the others come to power, weed will not be legal. I don't see any kind of financial basis for large industrialists to want to participate in this, and usually what they don't participate in, such ideas don't live very long. Or maybe I'm just a pessimist today when I think about it.

You are not pessimistic, but realistic. The law is crap, but not because of perfectionism. It is all what was left possible after the massiv attacks of the rights in Germany. The lobbyists fight weed terribly. And the lobbyists are:

-CDU/CSU parties, as the representatives of the alcohol mafia. They are for the alcohol mafia in Germany the same what the NRA is for weapon industrie in the US.

-Medicines as the representatives of the pharmamafia

-secretaries of interior, (which are often former cops, like Sebastian Fiedler) as the representatives of the executive

-German association of judges as the representatives of the judiciary.

Right now it is questionable if the law will come at all. If so, next government will most likely not take it back completly, but will make life difficult. And three plants are allowed? Yeeeess... it is planed to allow to grow three plants, but you are not allowed to own more than 50 g. This is a bad joke.

 

[Hasch]

The law is crap, but not because of perfectionism. It is all what was left possible after the massiv attacks of the rights in Germany. The lobbyists fight weed terribly.

As far as I remember the degradation of the draft law started much sooner when our health minister Mr Lauterbach tried to get the EU parliament to (at least unofficially) approve of his draft.
They refused so he continued to hack it up and twist it in hope of finally getting their blessing.

Didn't work, fu**ing stubborn naysayers and reactionaries.

He then revised + reduced the draft yet again and asked lots of "experts" here to give their recommendation concerning the draft. Now in hope of at least getting the approval of the German politicians.

Lots of conservative sceptic "experts" here, so the draft law became even more degraded.

--> 3 plants and 50g max

Which doesn't even remotely work imho

So I guess we just keep on as before, hiding and always afraid of getting busted...

 

[coconutcurry]

As far as I remember the degradation of the draft law started much sooner when our health minister Mr Lauterbach tried to get the EU parliament to (at least unofficially) approve of his draft.
....
So I guess we just keep on as before, hiding and always afraid of getting busted...

The EU parliament is also ruled by CDU: Ursula von der Leyen is CDU member and president of the EU commision and here CDU (alcohol-mafia-representatives) stop it on EU level. And Lauterbach (health minister)never wanted to legalize. He is a physician and they are the representatives of the pharma mafia. I'm sure somebody installed Lauterbach to prevent legalisation.

And yes, we will keep on as we always did. How did Bob Marley sing?


Even if the law is coming, for me absolutely nothing, absolutely nothing will change. 50g is a two week ration for me.

 

[Hammerhead]

50g max and a 3 plant limit doesn't make much sense. You're gonna get a lot more than 50g from 3 plants.

 

[coconutcurry]

Yes, you are right and that is the reason why they limit it to 50g. So they can screem out in big headlines "LEGALIZATION"!!! But in reality there is nothing. Nothing is legalized and there will be no leglization. In everydaylife nothing will change in Germany.