Spider mites AKA The Borg

[Douglas.Curtis]

Oh... my mistake... I was wondering why OTHER people's cannabis is so nasty compared to mine. lol but thanks!

Have you managed to accomplish this pest free nutrition yet?

Yes, I have indeed because John Kempf is correct on that angle and I keep rabbits. It's awesome to see all the pest issues pissadear when the plant nutrition is optimal. Normally I use water, iso and a surfactant in veg for mites or other pests, because it's safe and clean and works every time.

Since I've started using bunny manure tea I have not needed any pest control. (Edit: Rabbit manure has all of the macro, micro and trace elements your plants need (plus a bit of UV from sun or lamp) to become pest repellent devices themselves.)

Yes... definitely Awesome!!!

 

[lemonade]

For me, it often relates to being impatient.

Got to give it cure time.

I don't use any anything on the flowers, would rather smoke spider mites than soap, or something stronger.

One way to do a "Rush Cure" -
* watch it like a hawk
* let one bud mold
* as soon as it's 1/3 molded, dry it thoroughly, using low heat.
By the time it's done drying it might be 1/2 molded.
* Put it in the freezer to stop the mold.
* Smoke the flowers next to the mold.

That's what I ended up doing accidentally sort of, with some Blue Headband.

And I was choosing it over un-molded bud for about a month, while the un-molded bud cured.

Say what?

 

[jackspratt61]

Oh... my mistake... I was wondering why OTHER people's cannabis is so nasty compared to mine. lol but thanks!


Yes, I have indeed because John Kempf is correct on that angle and I keep rabbits. It's awesome to see all the pest issues pissadear when the plant nutrition is optimal. Normally I use water, iso and a surfactant in veg for mites or other pests, because it's safe and clean and works every time.

Since I've started using bunny manure tea I have not needed any pest control. (Edit: Rabbit manure has all of the macro, micro and trace elements your plants need (plus a bit of UV from sun or lamp) to become pest repellent devices themselves.)

Yes... definitely Awesome!!!

Kempf hypothesis is that complete nitrogen conversion is needed to reduce sucking pest pressure. The elements he recommends are Mg,S,B and Mo. I've seen great improvement working higher levels of B. Mo is next.
Do you have analysis for Bunny tea?

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Kempf hypothesis is that complete nitrogen conversion is needed to reduce sucking pest pressure. The elements he recommends are Mg,S,B and Mo. I've seen great improvement working higher levels of B. Mo is next.
Do you have analysis for Bunny tea?

I do have a report of the first batch of tea I made. The teas I make now are significantly stronger and have a much higher ratio of Nitrogen. No, I have not had the latest batches tested yet except through plants. The results are just wonderful and, as an added bonus, they can withstand so much more abuse now it's ridiculous. This is a very good thing with my current growing situation. lol

Edit: The first batch is still around and I use it at about a half a cup in 5 gallons of water for cannabis as a terpene booster. The new batches will be awesome at even lower doses with a live soil for veg, because there's a lot of organic nutrient molecules in there waiting to be torn apart.

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

I'd like to have the new batches analyzed with a more in-depth test, epecially since Molybdenum is not listed. Considering the pest response, I'm guessing it's all in there and in abundance.

 

[jackspratt61]

I'd like to have the new batches analyzed with a more in-depth test, epecially since Molybdenum is not listed. Considering the pest response, I'm guessing it's all in there and in abundance.

Needs a lot more calcium, balance the metals a bit and it looks good. Have you noticed a need to boost P,K some at critical moments.

 

[Nannymouse]

@Douglas.Curtis ...was that tea made with fresh or dried bunny poop, i suppose that it matters?

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

Needs a lot more calcium, balance the metals a bit and it looks good. Have you noticed a need to boost P,K some at critical moments.

I believe the current batches are higher, because I'm using straight manure with little urine or straw included. I also use r/o water now instead of the city water supply, which I'm guessing was a large contributor to the potassium levels. Not sure what differences will show up for calcium, but I definitely find KNF water soluble calcium to be excellent for that. I'm still tossing in a smidge of epsom salt as well for sulfur and a bit more magnesium.

I'm also researching a bloom formula for those who need it. With a living soil it should not be necessary with the right soil mix and microherd. I've not added any p/k boosters during these grows and have not noticed the flowers being a lot smaller.

@Douglas.Curtis ...was that tea made with fresh or dried bunny poop, i suppose that it matters?

All my batches are made with fresh. As for there being any difference vs. aged I really have no idea.

 

[jackspratt61]

I believe the current batches are higher, because I'm using straight manure with little urine or straw included. I also use r/o water now instead of the city water supply, which I'm guessing was a large contributor to the potassium levels. Not sure what differences will show up for calcium, but I definitely find KNF water soluble calcium to be excellent for that. I'm still tossing in a smidge of epsom salt as well for sulfur and a bit more magnesium.

I'm also researching a bloom formula for those who need it. With a living soil it should not be necessary with the right soil mix and microherd. I've not added any p/k boosters during these grows and have not noticed the flowers being a lot smaller.


All my batches are made with fresh. As for there being any difference vs. aged I really have no idea.

I suspect the ph will lower with ro..less bicarbonates. That will help.

 

[GET MO]

1 part 3% h2o2 3 parts h2o, and a cup of molasses in a gallon. Spray diligently every 2-3 days for 2-3 weeks. Has worked for me everytime for the last 5 years.

 

[Loc Dog]

1 part 3% h2o2 3 parts h2o, and a cup of molasses in a gallon. Spray diligently every 2-3 days for 2-3 weeks. Has worked for me everytime for the last 5 years.

It is easy to get rid of spider mites you pickup from outdoors. It is those referred to as the borg, which usually come in on clones that have been exposed to everything that are the problem. Life cycle is 20 days, and the ones that lived are immune to whatever has been used. Have heard of hamsters in room with windows open and no pest strip dying. Had 2 in sealed tent for 3 days (anything else would be dead in 12 hours) and they were running around like meth addicts, and did not phase at all. That was after trying everything else except Azamax and SM-90.

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[Douglas.Curtis]

It is easy to get rid of spider mites you pickup from outdoors. It is those referred to as the borg, which usually come in on clones that have been exposed to everything that are the problem. Life cycle is 20 days, and the ones that lived are immune to whatever has been used.

Yeah... picked those up multiple times. They don't survive alcohol and water. Going a step further, there are no biological changes which would allow a mite to survive isopropyl alcohol or build up any type of resistance.

 

[El Timbo]

I've followed the advice on this video with good results.

 

[Gman 420]

Yeah... picked those up multiple times. They don't survive alcohol and water. Going a step further, there are no biological changes which would allow a mite to survive isopropyl alcohol or build up any type of resistance.

what iso/water ratio would advise for broad or cyclamen mites?

 

[Douglas.Curtis]

While I know they have no resistance, and the pint per gallon is fine... the issue I see is with surfactants and getting the solution in every nook and cranny.
That.... is very difficult.

 

[marmarb]

Main reason i stopped picking up clones from gene traders.

 

[Sub24ox7]

If your plants have excellent nutrition and you have a good environment then temp etc.. they don’t attacks plants as fast at all, I grow a couple 10x 15 foot rooms and outdoors and I just keep things clean. I may notice some tell tale signs on one plant or two every grow on maybe one leaf and I remove the leaf and spray pretty strong isopropyl water mix over the whole plant as long as it’s not too far into flower. Then keep an extra eye on said plant. I don’t ever get the point of webbing or any significant damage. If the plants are really healthy they dont get a footholf. If they do your screwed really.

 

[TanzanianMagic]

You might want to put a piece of clove near you plant and see what happens.

Clove contains eugenol, which is deadly for several types of mites, as well as leafminers.

The alkaloids and terpenes are taken up by the plant through the air.

Adding a piece or two to your soil mix can't hurt either.

 

[zachrockbadenof]

last grow in my 5x5ft tent, i had '3' plants in hydro, and 5 in soil... the soil plants had mites, so i would take em outside every few days and hose em down trying to keep em at bay... it worked to a certain extent. no webbing but def some damage- about 2 weeks before harvest, i saw em on the hydro plants- early on, i can spray em, 2 weeks b4 harvest, u hope for the best...

the tent was taken down in may, sprayed down with a variety of shit, and now sitting in the garage for oct- any idea how long those fuker's can live with ??