PANAMA A5 HAZE 12/12 GROW
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Here she is again, she has grown well for the short time. I have a few fungus gnats and have already ordered predatory mites and nematodes; it's not very bad. Can't stand them. I have the temperatures a bit higher because of the sativas; they are doing too well. I have to wipe them out 
My Neville Haze grows very special, very long arms. I have topped them, but I think that was not so good. What do you say?
My Neville Haze grows very special, very long arms. I have topped them, but I think that was not so good. What do you say?
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Today, I inoculated my plant with nematodes and also introduced predatory mites to combat the few fungus gnats. My plants are thriving without any issues so far. The Panama A5 Haze doesn't have a specific odor yet, while the Neville Haze emits a distinct spicy aroma when you rub the stem.
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I'm surprised by the leaves shape on those plants with such a high % of sativa in their blood, I know they will change once the flowering will begin but I thought those hybrids would have narrower leaves straight after gemination.
I can't see pre-flowers, is there some sign of flowering or not yet ? The plants have now more than a month, no?
When I do seeds straight in 12/12 I can see the first pre-flowers around day 20/25 but that's with hybrids with much faster flower cycle than the plants you have there of course.
Good luck with run I'm curious to see how big those plants can get with a straight 12/12 light regimen.
When I do my own seeds I like to test them with 12/12 from day 1, it's a good way to test a larger population than a typical veg and flower grow.
I can't see pre-flowers, is there some sign of flowering or not yet ? The plants have now more than a month, no?
When I do seeds straight in 12/12 I can see the first pre-flowers around day 20/25 but that's with hybrids with much faster flower cycle than the plants you have there of course.
Good luck with run I'm curious to see how big those plants can get with a straight 12/12 light regimen.
When I do my own seeds I like to test them with 12/12 from day 1, it's a good way to test a larger population than a typical veg and flower grow.
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Thanks
Yes, that's what I thought, but I only germinated one seed of each, so there are certainly phenos with thinner leaves right from the start.
She is now 1month and 2 days old
The preflowers are not fully developed and no stigmas that show up you can only see that they will come soon.
I believed that she is already slightly in the stretch the Panama a5 Haze
Let's see how it goes.
I plant this variety because I'm looking for the smell of incense
Thanks
Yes, that's what I thought, but I only germinated one seed of each, so there are certainly phenos with thinner leaves right from the start.
She is now 1month and 2 days old
The preflowers are not fully developed and no stigmas that show up you can only see that they will come soon.
I believed that she is already slightly in the stretch the Panama a5 Haze
Let's see how it goes.
I plant this variety because I'm looking for the smell of incense
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They have grown well, but now it's getting tight in the tent. They haven't received any fertilizer yet. They are now sexually mature, with the first pre-flowers appearing. I would say that from now on i can count the flowering days. They are under a 12/12 light cycle, but I've now adjusted the light to 11/13.
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I don't think I'll have enough space to keep everything 
I've already taken one out today.
But it's going to stay that way now - the adventure is about to start
The fungus gnats are slowly disappearing so the predatory mites are doing their job
I've already taken one out today.
But it's going to stay that way now - the adventure is about to start
The fungus gnats are slowly disappearing so the predatory mites are doing their job
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Welcome to my jungle tent 🫣
It's pretty full and there's still no end in sight.
Everything is growing very well for me so far the Panama a5 haze is very strong in terms of health never lets the leaves droop
The neville haze is a bit more sensitive the leaves are slightly curled does anyone have an idea what it could be plant looks very healthy from the color. So I rule out nitrogen overfertilization, could it be that the air flow is too strong because of the fans?
Ph 6.2
Ec 1.2
Temp 24 c°
It's pretty full and there's still no end in sight.
Everything is growing very well for me so far the Panama a5 haze is very strong in terms of health never lets the leaves droop
The neville haze is a bit more sensitive the leaves are slightly curled does anyone have an idea what it could be plant looks very healthy from the color. So I rule out nitrogen overfertilization, could it be that the air flow is too strong because of the fans?
Ph 6.2
Ec 1.2
Temp 24 c°
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I'm always in constant search of incense smoke. Check out master kush, ssh, and bubba kush they alll leave that lingering incense smell in the air. Alot of hazes will fit the bill but not all of em.
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Me too, but so far I haven't had a chance to find them all through nothing:
Amnesia - Super Strains
Dark phoenix - greenhouse seeds company
Super silver haze - ghsc
Nl5 haze mist-ghsc
....
But I already have these in the fridge and haven't tried them yet:
Amnesia haze - Soma seeds
Dankincense F2 - connoiseur genetics
Jack black - Sweet seeds
Ghost train haze #1 - raredankness
....
And the list goes on but so far I just haven't had a chance because it says in every variety in the description that it should smell like incense but no luck yet
Thought it was the fertilizer or something else they are all good nothing where you could say that sucks but unfortunately no incense smell am a bit disappointed but maybe it's also because I can only grow 4 plants and because of the small number of plants the chance is also smaller
But I have also discovered other very special smells like the big buddha cheese or hawaiian snow does not smell like incense but also very specific and very strong recognizable unique smell so i found also positive things when looking for incense.
When this grow is finished I wanted to try dankincense F2 from Connoiseur genetics
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welcome to Sativa growing
the way you present your report/pics, it is really hard to figure out what, is what?
no description etc.
All I can see is green mush, that makes it hard to help.
Sativas have a different metabolism, it's not easy to hit the correct watering, as they drink more than they eat.
Don't worry too much about health, those plants will never look as healthy again as now.
just keep your feeding constant, no experiments with EC later in flowering, just boring every time the same.
Don't worry about nitrogen at this stage, they need it all during stretch.
You say you don't feed, so nothing to worry, just let it grow
PS: fans should blow at lights, not at plants
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@Hmong
Would like to take better photos but no space in the room it is a storage room when I stand inside I can just open the tent and stand there🫣
I could take it out but then everything would stink and the neighbors would immediately start complaining again.
Thanks for your answer, I'm still quite unsure and a beginner with the sativas, so I'll change the fans and always thought that would strengthen the plants and produce thicker stems.
I wanted to repot them again in 2 weeks and then do nothing more and if I do I will check the ec and then fertilize on the ec of the soil that was in the bag
Apart from a little encyme and root stimulants, I'm not giving it anything at the moment.
Would like to take better photos but no space in the room it is a storage room when I stand inside I can just open the tent and stand there
🫣I could take it out but then everything would stink and the neighbors would immediately start complaining again.
Thanks for your answer, I'm still quite unsure and a beginner with the sativas, so I'll change the fans and always thought that would strengthen the plants and produce thicker stems.
I wanted to repot them again in 2 weeks and then do nothing more and if I do I will check the ec and then fertilize on the ec of the soil that was in the bag
Apart from a little encyme and root stimulants, I'm not giving it anything at the moment.
it's less about pics, as it is about presentation for the reader.
you can just add description after upload, so people understand what they are actually looking at. When I can read the yellow tags on a photo its easy, but if I can't see them it becomes confusing.
Just a tip, as I see this in 90% of new grow reports.
blowing at your plants directly, just causes more water evaporation for no effect, like a hair dryer.
there is a lot of Bro science in growing
people just repeating things to others
thicker stems for what anyway?
you are indoors, with lights from above and a net for support.
potted plants will always need support in late flowering, the hanging over is not good.
I seen people before with plants thin as pencils, unable to support their pathetic weight, just laying sideways on the soil and the fans on full speed.
Also telling me it's necessary for the thicc stems and that I know nothing, when being asked for advice on how to perform better?
can't make this shit up.
like I said, you wanna prevent excess nitrogen during later flowering.
transplanting will make a lot of new nutrients available at once, therefore you don't wanna make the mistake of transplanting into a "hotter" soil, meaning higher EC.
try to transplant only into a Light Mix during flowering, or else you will end up with very green plants that never seem to finish.
this is pure Sativa specific, applying to everything that flowers longer than 14 weeks.
It's a marathon flowering, not a sprint like Indica.
Things are changing slow, you need a lot of patience. Once it feels boring, you are doing great!
In your case the 15L pots are well enough! No need for transplant, your girls are small (no offense)
During flowering you can just fill up the rim with fresh soil, once the medium starts to sit down.
Much more important that you cut out all the leaf and branches, that are under the canopy and don't get any light.
you can just add description after upload, so people understand what they are actually looking at. When I can read the yellow tags on a photo its easy, but if I can't see them it becomes confusing.
Just a tip, as I see this in 90% of new grow reports.
blowing at your plants directly, just causes more water evaporation for no effect, like a hair dryer.
there is a lot of Bro science in growing
people just repeating things to others
thicker stems for what anyway?
you are indoors, with lights from above and a net for support.
potted plants will always need support in late flowering, the hanging over is not good.
I seen people before with plants thin as pencils, unable to support their pathetic weight, just laying sideways on the soil and the fans on full speed.
Also telling me it's necessary for the thicc stems and that I know nothing, when being asked for advice on how to perform better?
can't make this shit up.
like I said, you wanna prevent excess nitrogen during later flowering.
transplanting will make a lot of new nutrients available at once, therefore you don't wanna make the mistake of transplanting into a "hotter" soil, meaning higher EC.
try to transplant only into a Light Mix during flowering, or else you will end up with very green plants that never seem to finish.
this is pure Sativa specific, applying to everything that flowers longer than 14 weeks.
It's a marathon flowering, not a sprint like Indica.
Things are changing slow, you need a lot of patience. Once it feels boring, you are doing great!
In your case the 15L pots are well enough! No need for transplant, your girls are small (no offense)
During flowering you can just fill up the rim with fresh soil, once the medium starts to sit down.
Much more important that you cut out all the leaf and branches, that are under the canopy and don't get any light.
