Your Plants like music?

[Guest]

Was wondering does anybody play music for there plants?

I'm a musiciain & lol, i've managed to hypnotize some of my cats with audio expeiments using certain sustained synth pads. They'll fall into a trance like state after a few minutes.

I recall research where plants were subject to sound waves (music) this was in the 70's i think.

 

[SEEDYNONO]

all damn day. my cat seems to like some tunes left on to liven up his day too.

 

[crunkinshoe]

Why not?! Only good things can come from the music....

 

[Guest]

Mythbusters did a test on this but they were extremely lacking in any scientific control what so ever as evidenced by this post I found here: http://www.bio.net/bionet/mm/plant-ed/2004-December/007770.html

I posted earlier about a then upcoming episode of the Discovery Channel
TV series, Mythbusters, that did an experiment to determine if music
and talking had an effect on plants. I saw the episode, and it
concluded that is was "plausible" that music and recorded talking
improved plant growth. They got a benefit with both nice and nasty
talking and both classical and heavy metal music. Their control plants
did the worst.

Unfortunately, Mythbusters consulted no trained botanists on camera,
just a garden center employee who thought that supposed benefits of
talking and music on plant growth was an old wive's tale.

Among the problems in the Mythbusters experiment were the following:

1. No statistical analysis.

2. There was only one small greenhouse per treatment so no real
replication to take differing environments into account. A plus was
that there were ten pots with one seed per pot in each greenhouse.

3. One seed per pot was an unwise technique because some of the pots
ended up with no plants due to germination failure. The usual technique
for an experiment of this type would have been to plant three seeds per
pot and then thin to one seedling per pot.

4. Not all greenhouses were oriented in the same direction so light
patterns within the shaded structures could have differed and affected
the results.

5. An LA rooftop in mid-summer provided poor growing conditions for
plants, especially for peas, a cool season crop.

6. The control greenhouse was in the center of the roof. The treatment
greenhouses were closer to the edges. That could have resulted in
significant temperature differences.

7. The automated irrigation system failed midway through the experiment
so plants were harvested early and fresh weights measured. Plants in
some treatments were clearly affected by lack of water more than others
so that skewed the results. It would have been more logical to measure
plant dry weights because about half the leaves on some plants were
dead and dry.

8. There was no attempt to determine a mechanism that would explain why
plants would grow better with sound.

Their experimental errors indicated how easy it is for students to do
experiments on plants and sound incorrectly and reach wrong
conclusions.

The episode was titled "Exploding House."

However, there is very little real scientific evidence to prove that music or talking to plants will effect their growth.

 

[Guest]

hey cool.. ha ha thanks.
lol - what were those guys thinking

no trained botanists

 

[Eazyman]

Yeah man! playing Pink Floyd during flowering makes for a trippy high! Lol!
^^ kidding (maybe) but i really believe its just a karma thing. i have a radio in the growroom but its for my enjoyment, not the ladies. They might benefit from my breath that might blow their way while i'm singin' to them. And I probably spend a bit more time in there, breathing on em, when good music is playing.

We love our plants. and we love music. so we WANT them to support each other. It shouldn't hurt though; unless the music is too loud, wakes a crabby neighbor in the night, who calls the law out to your house, and, well, you can figgure out the rest of that nightmare scenerio!
Peace

 

[DeadlyFoez]

I actually are playing music to my plants. I have my computer playing the music and different music for different times of the day. I encoded all my music in FLAC as to not lose any of the fidelity of the music.

This is what my music schedule is for vegitative growth using an 18/6 cycle starting at 6 am and turning off at midnight:

5:30 am - 7:30 am, nature sounds, to help stimualte the plant for the start of the day
7:30 am - 11 am, Bach
11 am - 6 pm, Aphex Twin, I have a strong feeling about this music especially that it hits more frequencies than most other music and that it is mathematically perfect.
6 pm - 10 pm, Pink Floyd, a little of that trip ur talking about.
10 pm - Midnight, Yanni, because its smooth and soothing and my wife wont complain about it considering my cab is in my bedroom

 

[Reinhold]

I remember on OG there was a debate on it and this one guy certainly seemed to know alot about it and said that it does in fact help your plants if I recall correctly but dont quote me, is that its something to do with the vibrations? that help them but im probably wrong still I always heard it helps and I wouldnt see any harm.

 

[Hitman]

Classical is aesthetically nice with the greenery. One has to mark that on the to do list of experimentation, very interesting.

As a side note I thought that was Chabakka on the above, Reinhold avatar.

Now back to the matter at hand. I like to sing, "Good night, good night" it's made up but it sounds sort of Broadwayish. Well it's actually more melodic or operatic in a
way. I also like to sing a variation of the old famous, "Good night ladies good night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

Hitaliscious

 

[DeadlyFoez]

From what I've read, heard, and also been told by a sound engineer is that it is not the actual sound, but the vibrations like Reinhold said. And its not any one sound in particular. The way it works is when a vibration hit a frequency that creates a sound wave of the size of the what the plants veins are (I forget the correct terminology), that the sound wave kinda helps act like a heart beat.

If you were to provide a constant frequency it could cause those veins to explode because then it is providing constant pressure and could cause those veins to errupt.

I dont know if I can explain it to you guys in terms of how I think it, but I'ma trying.

Ok, everything has a resinating (sp?) frequency, including glass, steal, buildings,...and plants. Which means that everything has a frequency that is heard when you hit it or like crystal glasses when u move ur fingure around the edge. If you were to play that frequency you can make those objects vibrate without touching it.

You see where this is going? So as you apply the correct frequency to those veins and nutrients or waste or moving in a direction (up or down) it will add extra energy to move those nutrients and waste faster. It works like a heart beat almost where as it helps pump it faster. But if you were to apply that frequency constantly it would put to much pressure into those veins and cause them to break, so it needs to be a frequency that isn't constant. Music works great this way.

And the reason why it isn't just one specific frequecy is because the veins are different sizes throughout the plants. Obviously towards the base there are bigger veins, and towards the tips the veins are smaller.

So the goal is to find music, or even a specifically enginereed sound track, to help give the best range of frequencies at a rappid pace. Although mythbusters experiment was not totally scientific, they did come up with some valid conclusions. One was that punk music worked the best out of what they had tried. And the reason for that is punk generally has a faster pace, more musical instruments, and more vocal ranges. That is not saying that the general punk music is the best, that can only be tested by experiments.

But this is where my theory of Aphex Twin comes into play. That music is so well engineered. He created it with mathmatics in mind, kinda like how mozart did his music, but that isn't all. Since this music was created using what he generated by computers and the kind of effort he put into it, there is very little for gaps in frequencies. He pretty much touches upon all the frequencies throughout the whole song of every song and almost all have a fast pace to them.

I played Aphex Twin throughout the last half of my last grow and I started seeing a difference in the speed of growth within just a couple of days.

MP3's are trash. Radio is trash. CD's with good speakers are good. And a good record player would be best, but not many people have the room to throw one in their grow rooms. Even things like wind chimes would be good, but very annoying.

I really hope I explained this in a way you all can understand. I'm not saying that this is %100 fact, but it is way more feasible than anything else I've heard and read so far and I have put about 1 months research into this matter searching everywhere online, and then finally contacting a sound engineer that I know.

If anyone else has any other thoughts or a better way of explaining this then please do.

I'll add more input if I can think of anyhting else or any other examples of how and why this would work. I mean because obviously plants dont have ears, so the vibrations have to be it.

 

[Hitman]

very cool

 

[motaco]

so far they haven't mentioned it to me.


but its supposed to be true actually. they've done studies on everything on earth and plants subjected to extremely deep bass grow faster.

how much faster? probably not much. and it took a ton of bass to do it. part of that study they also found out humans exposed to deep bass continuously have higher rates of colon cancer for some reason.

 

[vonforne]

so far they haven't mentioned it to me.


but its supposed to be true actually. they've done studies on everything on earth and plants subjected to extremely deep bass grow faster.

how much faster? probably not much. and it took a ton of bass to do it. part of that study they also found out humans exposed to deep bass continuously have higher rates of colon cancer for some reason.

now thaat is funny as hell. Colon cancer? bahashahahahhahahahahahahahah

 

[DeadlyFoez]

Yeah, you'd REALLY need a thick stock for bass to benefit much. It's mostly the higher frequencies that contribute. I would like to do my own controlled study and see if I can pin point the right frequency range and the best pattern to provide the most for stimulation. I'm sure it wouldn't be all that pleasent to the ears though. and if thats the case then I would stick with the best benefitial music.

 

[Guest]

Talking to your plants will provide them with CO2. I'm always blowing on them when I'm around them. They seem to like it, 'cause I haven't heard any complaints. And if I did, I'd check myself in for a visit at the big red building. :wink: