Your opinion on best system

[migraineur]

Hi, I am limited to having 4 plants at one time, no exceptions (clones, seedlings still count as a plant). I'm Trying to decide which of the following systems would produce the most smokeable product/day (once you break it down into days of the year), and be reliable (same amount ever harvest). I'll be using Ak-48 seeds and 400w hps for veg/flower, fluoros for seedlings/mother.

I would like some experienced input on this, as it is for medical purposes and I need every gram I can get to have enough continuous supply, with such a strict limit as 4 plants.

System #1:
Grow out 4 seedlings, find the best female, create a mother from it, keep it in the veg cab, and start growing 3 plants each grow (from clones from the one mother). Each round would simply be 3 clones, and repeated. The 4th slot would always be taken up by the mother plant, which is annoying.

System #2:
Grow out 4 seedlings, remove the males, pick the best female, then create 4 clones from it, destroy the rest, and grow out those four clones. After they flower, reveg them, flower them again, and keep repeating the revegging of these four identical clones. This would allow me to flower 4 plants each round, but would the time to reveg keep it from being worth it compared to flowering 3 fresh clones each round in System #1? Are there any issues that will come up from repeatedly revegging the same clones over and over?

System #3:
Start from seed every time. I don't think this is possible for me, due to the cost of seeds, not enough slots to really be able to make more seeds, and the fact that I can't gaurantee that even any of the four will be female each time, making this very unreliable when what I need is the most steady, productive system possible.

Thanks to anyone who has some experience with #1 and #2, and can give me some advice.

- Migraineur

 

[Guest]

I have reveged clones before (taken from a flowering lady) and it took me over 4 weeks to get new growth again. I would imagen it would take longer to reveg each time then it would too veg three clones so you would probably be best off with a mother. I dont actually have a mother plant in my set up so cant really coment as to how much trouble they are but i see quite a few people on here do.
Good luck With Finding a system that works for you.
~neilspotshop

 

[Guest]

In that situation I would say your first option would be the best.

 

[Guest]

I would go for system #1 with a twist. Take an extra 4 cuttings and let them hang-out in little cups of water. It takes them a couple of weeks to root this way, but they will keep for the 8-10 weeks that you flower your others. then, you will then have 4 very well rooted clones to flower right after harvest. Just get a little floro and let them chill while you flower your other 4.

I grow 4x1000W with 25 plants per light in 4'x4'x12" deep bins filled with 15 cubic feet of soil. When I trim the bottom branches prior to flowering I do exactly that. I plant again while I manicure, that's my system. It's so fun to start a new garden before you finish manicuring the old one.

Good luck with your own system, it will evolve as you do.

 

[SweetIndica]

Yea, i'd go with #1...although i personally with get another light and keep the mother under that. Don't reveg them, it will take ahwile to get them revegging again as it stresses the plant. I would also take more than 4 clones, just incase some don't root..assuming it's your first cloning experience. I'd take like 6 clones, and use a good method. Make sure you have cloning gel/compound, humidity dome of some sort, fluro(s) , medium for cloning, etc.

 

[Guest]

#1 is the best.

#3 - seed starts are slow.
#2 - Eventually you will run into root rot, or diminished returns

 

[migraineur]

Thanks everyone, seems pretty clear what I must do now. #1 it is!

 

[the cult]

if you keep your cuttlings in a glass of water, add fresh water daily.

 

[exploziv]

The first option I think is the best.
If you have growed before you should know what is the best in your conditions. Think again, and if you don't find anything go for the 1st option.

good luck.

 

[SweetIndica]

if you keep your cuttlings in a glass of water, add fresh water daily.

The glass of water method, is not super effective. Personally, you'll have them root faster and get a much higher rooting percentage if you buy the required items. Get some type of medium (soil and perlite will work, but i use rockwool cubes), some type of cloning gel/powder, and some type of container or dome to keep them humid. Before i apply the cloning gel, i scrape the outer layer off of the bottom of the stem on the clone and then put it in some ph adjusted water that has a drop or two of superthrive in it for a few mins, and then apply the cloning gel. I then stick them into wet rockwool cubes (i use ph adjusted water on the rockwool cubes also) and then put them in my humidity dome and tray. I also put a heating pad underneath them which keeps them warm and makes it more humid. I also have some holes in my dome to let a little air in. I usually have them all rooted within a week or so.

 

[Guest]

The glass of water method, is not super effective. Personally, you'll have them root faster and get a much higher rooting percentage if you buy the required items. Get some type of medium (soil and perlite will work, but i use rockwool cubes), some type of cloning gel/powder, and some type of container or dome to keep them humid. Before i apply the cloning gel, i scrape the outer layer off of the bottom of the stem on the clone and then put it in some ph adjusted water that has a drop or two of superthrive in it for a few mins, and then apply the cloning gel. I then stick them into wet rockwool cubes (i use ph adjusted water on the rockwool cubes also) and then put them in my humidity dome and tray. I also put a heating pad underneath them which keeps them warm and makes it more humid. I also have some holes in my dome to let a little air in. I usually have them all rooted within a week or so.

So true. I was refering to the wait time on the flowering cycle. I'm not doing any moms right now so I trim the lowers and root those slowly for 2 months while I flower

 

[hybridtek]

grow from seed, pick out males, clone females, flower the donors, veg the clones as donors flower, 2 weeks before donors mature, clone the clones, now flower the new donor plants (formers clones) and vegg clones and so on, this is the best method IMO because there is no bulky mother just a constant process with none of the downsides of keeping around a mother

 

[ft100]

#1 period. mother plants are not annoying. just make sure you select a good one which will be tough considering you can only have 4 plants going at a time. maybe you can grow two clones and have a mother plant and grow one from seed until you have seen a few different females?