Yikes!!

[nosmoke]

I think this is root rot... stem rot. White widow, three weeks into veg, PH good, Water temp 82... probably was hotter over the weekend! Five gallon constant flow with areation, pure blend pro. Have used Hydroguard but maybe not enough??... Any chance to save all four plants in this bucket the same.

 

[BagseedSamurai]

Oh man, thats rough. What i would do..change everything. Cleanse the entire thing so it doesnt spread, in case its bacterial or parasitic as the rots sometimes are. If you wanna try and save that one..i suggest a whole body clone.

 

[Awol/CoA]

Geez man, that's a real bummer dude...

I'm with BagseedSamurai, that may be a bacterial or parasitic problem.
Very rarely does stem rot occur in Hydroton medium, unless you've
constantly flooded the pots for very long periods.


PeAcE...
Awol.

 

[BruceLeeroy]

yeah, anytime you keep the stock wet your un the risk of some nasty stem rot taking hold. how big is the actual plant? is a whole body clone practical? if it is thats your best route at this point as your odds of fixing that bad of stem rot are slim. if it's NOT practical then i would suggest staking that plant very firmly so the stem can't move and for the love of god drying out the top of that hydroton. you might even be able to try a graft, tho that's pretty risky too. if you get that stem dried out ASAP and keep it that way, and tie the plant up so the stem doesnt support ANY weight it might survive it.


82 is WAY too hot for your nutes, even if you fix that stem rot (unlikely at that temp especially) then your roots will rot. you've already got the bacteria in your mix and with 82 degrees they'll be breeding like mad. you need to get that below like 72 immediately, freeze 20 oz coke bottles of water if you have to and put them in res. be sure and take caps off while they're freezing so you dont blow em up

peace

 

[BruceLeeroy]

and be sure you change and sterilize everything. do some searches on h2o2 and see about running that through your system for a bit to sterilize/kill as much of the bacteria as you can

good luck, sorry you're having trouble :/

 

[Chamba]

good call Bagseed Sam.....I've successfully cloned young seedlings that suffered from "damping off" disease.....

and to be on the safe side (if possible or practical) you can start new clones or seeds as well and choose the best later on

We hope it works out better next time around.please keep us informed!

Happy growing

 

[nosmoke]

The plants are 3" tall. This bucket is my original system from EZhydrokit. With this system you are supposed to keep a constant water flow. However I think that I have boiled it down to 1) not sterilizing the system after the last grow and 2) placing the seedlings too far down in the pots (should have placed more hydroton in the bottom of the pots). I've topped off the res with cooler RO water, turned off the water pump, and put 30ml of Hydroguard in but I will probably chop them this weekend if they don't show any signs of improvement. My Igloo DWC in the same grow area has two plants and looks fine. I have moved it away from the EZhydrokit as I don't think its parasitic just bacterial and contained in the EZ.

No idea about the full body clone. I've tried cloning seedlings in the past but never with any luck.

 

[Pure Mist]

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jeez, it hurts me to even just look at that babe...... dude, full body clone, ONLY way to go from here.......... how the hell does one prevent this? will a little peroxide in the rez do it?

 

[BruceLeeroy]

i really don't think you can keep a system sterilized with your nutes running at 82 degrees. running the water 24/7 is not your problem, keeping the stem wet 24/7 IS. between a res temp of 82 degrees and keeping the base of the stem constantly wet, you were most likely doomed from the start. you said your DWC looks fine.... does it's stem stay wet? what are the water temps in the DWC?

peace

 

[nosmoke]

The DWC is a larger container about 25 gallons so it didn't get as hot. My temp/ PPM measuring device crapped out too, just after I measured the temp on the EZ. No the DWC bubbler does not have a water pump so that is not a problem with it, it just waters from the bottom. Unfortunately we had a hot spell this past weekend. Now I've got the room door open with a fan blowing cooler air into it.

 

[HyGradeChronic]

tee feckin' hee ese !!!!!.

tee feckin' hee ese !!!!!.

..... JESUS FECKING KRIST MAN!!!!! WTF ru trying to do????? obviously, you needa go bak n do some SOLID REASEARCH concerning dwc type grows n parameters of what constitutes a good healthy envioronment for your plants. lol, dewd, hgc really really sorry to jump in onna you ass like this, but SERIOUSLY...
..... if, you go bak n ck out ANYTHING WRITTEN by blazeoneup, (who's got a real nice dwc type grow thread here), you will see that one a the first rules is to keep yer upper root system BONE DRY, n set your drip lines AT LEAST 2" below the top of your hydroton rox. thas cuz upper roots, i think i've read by alla hydro wizeguys who've demoed a dwc or a skizzle type grow, or an ebb n flow grow, or a krusty type grow, that yer upper root zone is mo betta as an oxygen seeking type root, rather than a nute or h2o seeking type root.
..... lol, doNt feel likee lone ranger though. hgc has done same thing b4 n KILLED OFF ALLA PLANTS at once aboot two- three weeks into 12/12 cuz he had his drip lines TOO HIGH UP CLOSE TO WHERE THE STALK GOES DOWN INTO THE MEDIUM. i'll take a look at me pix that i DID SAVE from OG, b4 it went adios, cuz i have pix of mine that look as bad or worse. and, it was all because my driplines were tooo high in the medium. i'll post pix, if i still have them.it really sux stale bong water ese.
..... imo, these are gonna be dead soldzas real soon. you best bet is to take plants n clone da piss outta dem, reroot the clones n start over. AFTER, ya reresearch how the peep w/success did it. cuz, i got an educated guess that these suckers AINT GONNA MAKE IT UNTIL THE WEEKEND, or, NEXT REZ CHANGE.
..... sorry to be so negative brudda, but thas just how it is inna real world. you really dont want me or anyone else to sugarcoat things n hold yer hand n tell ya "everyt'ings gonna be a'ight" do ya??? i surely hope not. tough love werks mo betta n blind leading the blind, if'n ya know what i mean.
..... good luck, i hope ya save em, but i seriously doubt that you will . chaulk it up to a real tyme learning experience. i'm sorry it's such a costly lesson. but, lol, i bet you not ever makee same same mistake a'gin.
..... peace
..... HGC
..... p.s. AND, your water temps at 80*+ are more condusive to a nice hot bubblebath w/u significant other, than an ideal temp for your roots...
..... p.p.s. if yer not top watering and recirculating yer nutes, only filling each bucket from control bucket, try lowering the fluid level in your control bucket. that'll lower your individual buckets too...

 

[mace_ecam]

Water temp 82...

thats about 10 degrees F to high

 

[billbob]

try adding the h2o2. And as suggested above put some frozen "soda cans" or whatever in the res to keep it cooler. good luck

 

[Guest]

That sure is Yikes alright