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I need to get a S&B handheld. Joints are nice and portable, but are also making the insides of my lungs oily and sticky.
 

Switcher56

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Interesting, but catching$$. I don't like non-replaceable battery devices

Does the same thing for a fraction of the cost good buddy, powered by an 18650 :)

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https://torontovaporizer.ca/flowermate-v5-nano.html

The Mighty reminds me of the old DaVinci.
 

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Switcher56

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You obviously didn't read the link I provided :) Yes it does. Use your scroll button :tiphat:

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... at $350 USD, one might as well buy a Volcano (just saying). The V5 is 2" wide and 3.5" tall and, 0.875" thick.

The main problem I had/have with the Mighty, is a proprietary LiPo battery. All Li Ion batteries degrade over time (read after 300-500 recharges (dependent on the quality of the Li Ion)) So when that happens, you are dishing out another $350 to replace a $15 battery. <--- which doesn't make any sense, unless you are the mfr! an $XXX device equiped with about $1/2 for a battery. Mfrs sell stuff and consumers buy stuff!

I quit combusting 11 yrs ago and was an ecig vendor. Onboard batteries was/were a "fad" for a while, until people caught on, having to replace their units after 1.5 years. That is the perspective I am offering, nothing more :tiphat:
 

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You obviously didn't read the link I provided :) Yes it does. Use your scroll button :tiphat:

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... at $350 USD, one might as well buy a Volcano (just saying). The V5 is 2" wide and 3.5" tall and, 0.875" thick.

The main problem I had/have with the Mighty, is a proprietary LiPo battery. All Li Ion batteries degrade over time (read after 300-500 recharges (dependent on the quality of the Li Ion)) So when that happens, you are dishing out another $350 to replace a $15 battery. <--- which doesn't make any sense, unless you are the mfr! an $XXX device equiped with about $1/2 for a battery. Mfrs sell stuff and consumers buy stuff!

I quit combusting 11 yrs ago and was an ecig vendor. Onboard batteries was/were a "fad" for a while, until people caught on, having to replace their units after 1.5 years. That is the perspective I am offering, nothing more :tiphat"

Actually I did read the link, and wondered if you noticed the carts were not the same before you posted, so wouldn't fit the VI Domeless nail. You could obviously still mix the load for the portable.

I bought the Mighty, because it worked good when I tried it, the volcano isn't pocket size and my NO2 Vapit doesn't pack much punch. I would have to try the others to have a comment as to their efficacy.

Valid point on battery replacement, if the unit is equal in all other respects. If you will send me one, I will be happy to do a side by side test and report back.

I quit combusting over a decade ago as well and was given any number of e-pens and vaporizers, but have yet to find one I like. Mostly I just dab, but have trouble controlling the temperature of my portable dab pipe using a torch.

May I ask if you still sell vaporizers?


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My favorite vaporizer to this point was my first, which I built myself in 2007 using two quartz lamps and a test tube. It wasn't all that portable either, but didn't care what you put in it.

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I need to get a S&B handheld. Joints are nice and portable, but are also making the insides of my lungs oily and sticky.

I quit combusting cannabis material because my lungs rebelled and got even with a hacking cough that further aggravated my lungs, as well as my arthritic neck.

I remember passing a joint in a potion making class, that I had rolled using paper coated on the inside with oil. Both the ATF herb and the TW oil were good and got raves all around, but at one point I had all twelve of the students and the instructor hacking because it was so harsh.

It was a medical cannabis class and one of the students broke the class up by saying, "Let the healing begin........"

Dabbing high terpene concentrates also makes me hack, but without them flavor and effect suffers. I was happy to find a vape-able combination that afforded me both flavor and effect, yet was still smooth until the volatiles start to deplete.

A bonus to discover that the same cannisters not only fit the VI Domeless Nail, but that I got additional smooth hits from them after they had turned harsh in the Mighty. That of course led to more heavily loading cannisters with concentrate, as I knew they couldn't hurt my e-nail, to see if more was better and where the just too too much point was.

Suffice to say that straight crumble had about the same hack index with or without the cannister, so I ended up loading it about the amount shown in my pictures to get best flavor along with the effects.
 

Switcher56

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All is fair in love and war :)

I had an online business that went to pot after all the BMs that opened up here in 2013. I no longer sell anything.

I was a pack & 1/2/day smoker. Which equated to roughly 75mg nicotine. That is when the data was still on the pack. Vaping, you will consume the same amount, although it is healthier. Hence, a battery will last 1.5 to 2 yrs but, then they're toast. If you can't replace it, ya need to buy a new unit.

I have a battery analyzer as I got tired explaining to folks that AW batteries beat Efest any day of the week and twice on Sunday. They started to wane after 3 months or so (18650) whilst the AWs started to fade after 6 months. Not only that, whereas the Efest batteries would show a sharp decline, the AWs, showed a more transient decline, over its lifetime.

The cheap customers use to say but they cost twice as much. I would say yes but they perform/read perform... for twice as along. I showed them the curves. I did manage to get converts, especially when I started to talk about "rock"content.

People are funny... they use to spend $15 CAD for a pack of smokes/day, but would bitch that a coil would only last a couple of weeks, a $3 value.

Wrt the dab rig, I don't do dabs but I do hear you when it comes to controlling the temp using a torch = ballpark at best and, we all know that dependent on what specifically you are after in a certain strain, temperature control is of utmost importance. I don't use the liquid pod that came with it. I do make my own vape cartridges.

Sorry if I peed on your parade. I am an individual that tells you what you need to hear vice what you want to hear. I don't tell people its "phoque", I tell them why I think it is so :tiphat:
 

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You don't pee on my parade sharing your perspective for consideration, so thanks for sharing.

Until I've tested both units I have no opinion, other than to note that the Might cans work well in my Series 1 20mm VI Domeless nail.

I also note that the V5 with 30 minutes batter life is actually closer to the S&B Crafty with 45 minutes, than the S&B Mighty at 1.5 hours battery life.
 

Switcher56

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You don't pee on my parade sharing your perspective for consideration, so thanks for sharing.

Until I've tested both units I have no opinion, other than to note that the Might cans work well in my Series 1 20mm VI Domeless nail.

I also note that the V5 with 30 minutes batter life is actually closer to the S&B Crafty with 45 minutes, than the S&B Mighty at 1.5 hours battery life.
I was wondering where you got your 30 min from. The site states 2500mah or 45 min. You don't actually think that's the battery I use do you? I run a 3600mah Samsung in there, and can easily spend the day on a battery, besides as a vaper, I always carry a couple of spare batts whenh I am out and about. :) That being said, I never intended it to be a multi tasker. Simply a well built device at a reasonable cost, that meets my needs/demands. :tiphat:

PS: Where are you getting the Crafty/Mighty's battery life as it isn't on the company's page, where I expect to see such info. https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/crafty-plus
 

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I was wondering where you got your 30 min from. The site states 2500mah or 45 min. You don't actually think that's the battery I use do you? I run a 3600mah Samsung in there, and can easily spend the day on a battery, besides as a vaper, I always carry a couple of spare batts whenh I am out and about. :) That being said, I never intended it to be a multi tasker. Simply a well built device at a reasonable cost, that meets my needs/demands. :tiphat:

PS: Where are you getting the Crafty/Mighty's battery life as it isn't on the company's page, where I expect to see such info. https://www.storz-bickel.com/en-us/crafty-plus

You are absolutely right, it is 45 minute, or the same as the Crafty, I shifted a line when I moved to the right in the performance listed at the site.

Still same as the S&B Crafty and half of the Might.

If you look at the sites overall rating of the different pens, they rate the the V5 an overall 7.4, the Crafty as a 9.0, and the Mighty as a 9.3.

As noted, I will form an opinion once I've tested both units, am wed to neither. I wonder who does make the best unit given the panoply of alternatives?

Rather than dilute this thread about process with a comparison of vaporizors, and make a comparison of vaporizers hard to find, I will start a thread on that specific subject.

Hope to see you there!

Who makes the best portable vaporizer and why? - International Cannagraphic Magazine Forums
 
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Switcher56

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I am not asking you to form an opinion good buddy. I merely stated that the price tag $440CAD against $150 and the fact that it has an onboard battery was the deciding factors for me. Nothing more, nothing less.

WRT to another thread, as seen here topics are extremely subjective. Who makes the best light? I am glad you like your purchase. Worthy of mention is that it fulfilled a different need, not something easy to find. Personally, being around the block once or twice, I simply cannot vouch for any vaporizer above $200, unless it performs sexual favours on demand. I use to call my Jetta the "poor man's" Mercedes, a comfortable ride for sure but all maintenance with the exception of changing your oil, meant taking it back to the dealer (because of proprietary tooling) $$catching$$. I am frugal, what can I say :)
 

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I am not asking you to form an opinion good buddy.I merely stated that the price tag $440CAD against $150 and the fact that it has a onboard battery was the deciding factors for me.

WRT to another thread, as seen here topics are subjective. Who makes the best light? I am glad you like your purchase. Personally, being around the block once or twice, I simply cannot vouch for any vaporizer above $200, unless it performs sexual favours on demand. I use to call my Jetta the "poor man's Mercedes, a comfortable ride for sure but all maintenance with the exception of changing your oil, meant taking it back to the dealer (because of proprietary tooling) $$catching$$. I am frugal :)



Define frugal? Engineers make selections based on utility at the margin, not price. How much bang do you get for your buck?

I drive a 2013 all electric Ford Focus with the original batteries, which still take full charge.

Had a Beetle, two Ghia convertibles, and two Mercedes diesels, all of which worked well and which I could maintain myself.

More to the point, have you ever compared a Mercedes to a Hongqi? How could you without driving both like you stole them?

I paid $360 US for my Mighty and time will tell on battery life. I could have had the 45 minute battery life Crafty for $296.

I'm still working on the sexual favors, but thing are looking good with a couple of the chicks I've shared mixed media tokes with..

WRT the other thread, the point is to say why it is the best choice, not just that it is.
 

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