Yellowing fan leaves, need help

[Guest]

Hi there, here are som pics of my LR#1 female who seems to have lost its glamour by getting some yellowing leaves and tips lately.
At first i was completley confident that this was a nute burn cause i had no experience with using nutes at all before this grow , and i was using a bayer garden nute with the NPK of 8-3-5.
The plants were growing in a usual soil mix for indoor flowers with a ph of 5,5-6,5.

Now after checking around some it seems its to be showing all of the symptoms of a Nitrogen deficency, if anyone with a clue could u help me identify whichever it is please do!

I watered them every 2 days or so, depending on how dry the soil was.

Here's a pic of the plant in its full size of 18-20cm without pot counted and im concerned due to it not growing like hell now since it started flowering quite recently.

And here's a closeup of one of the leaves that has been extremley yellowing, and also burned on the tips:

This one has been planted into soil directly after showing signs of root from seed, been transplanted once after filling the first small pot with root texture, and has been pollinated to produce seeds, ( dont know much about the seeding procedure, perhaps that's the one stopping the growth?)

If you need more info to get to the bottom of this be sure to gimme a yell in PM or here so i can add up the info needed for you guys!

Any help would be greatly appriciated, im getting a headache watching my beautifuls slowly getting yellow-brownish from base to top.

 

[MynameStitch]

Yes, you have a nitrogen deficiency going, I think it's from lack of food rather than ph; reason for this the plant would be showing more issues than just yellowing of the leaves.
The brownish crispy stuff is what is left after the plant sucked it dry. Dead necrotic tissue.

Still it's always good to test the ph, how often do you check ph?
Are you talking about the soil mixture bayer garden? I can't find anything about that brand of nutrients. Just the soil that I know of they make. I do know that is mainly a soiless mixture has a lot of peat moss so you want your ph to stay around 5.5 to 6.3.

Have you fed them anything yet? If so how much and how often?

 

[Guest]

The soil mixture is not bayer garden, the nutrients i was feeding them with was, i still have the nutes, but as i thought the yellowing tips came from a nute overload i stopped feeding them directly as i saw the signs of the yellowing leaves, and flushed the soil.

the nutrients have an N-P-K of 8-3-5 as i also mentioned above, this is probably better for the veg phase but as i dont have anything else i guess i'll have to feed them this, and if so do i do it in full scale?

Ill go take a picture of the nutes now, and u'll probably get what kind of nutes i mean, the name isn't really translatable into english, atleast not by me

thanks for the quick awnser btw, the doctors here are way faster than local healthcare for humans

/cheers

 

[Guest]

im not really familliar to the photo uploading of icmag yet, so ill edit the best i can if this does not work.

to describe the nute a bit better its the fluid version of the little blue "rock-alike" stone things that people use in their flowerpots, people with some more experience than me told me that they would work perfectly for a small scale grow like mine.

However hope this was helpful for ya, i really need to know what to do before i have a completley yellow plant on my hands, which should be prohibited!

 

[10k]

pollinated. yes that will slow things down some as the plant will focus alot of it's energy to it's primary goal in life...to make seeds.

 

[MynameStitch]

I would give them a little bit of nitrogen; use that for one or 2 feedings then switch over to bloom; it's to early for the plant to show a natural nitrogen deficiency. You want to at least make sure it does not yellow till the mid-to end of flowering stages.

So you will defiantly need a different nutrient.
Over here in the US; they sell bayer garden soil; but not the nutrients. At least around where I live they do not sell bayer nutrients.

 

[Guest]

Since i dont have much to go for else than the crappy nutes i showed u earlier, and currently cant really wait for things ordered from the internet, what N-P-K value do you suggest that my product should have?

perhaps i can buy a substitute today at the local gardening shop while waiting for some real stuff off the internet, btw thanks a lot for the fast awnsers.

 

[blAsia]

Mine are similarly turning yellow way too fast. I also have to shoot them up with some N... they still have 5 weeks left. My ph is around 7 exactly. Your plant is bigger than mine though.

I have some specialized nutes, but now I am going to shoot a little 10-5-5 (commercial crap) into them... Like you, they need it now.

Oh, if you have to water every 2 days, you may need to replant. That just seems too often for soil. Mine are going for 5-6 days since the heat of the summer has gone.

Good luck.

 

[MynameStitch]

If you have to get something from a hardware store I would reccomend not going over a ratio of 20 anything else is a waste and most of the stuff that has higher than 20 is not balanced enough for cannabis..... do not get something like tree and shrub food cause it will burn the hell outta your plants.

You can use the nutrient you have now.... for grow; but you will have to get a bloom fert with low nitrogen levels after the next 2 feedings of the nutrient you have now. After those 2 feedings do not use the nutrient you have now. Use the new one you are going to by and make sure the P K is balanced and not to far fetched from each other.... like say something that has 1 10 10. That is ok but if something that has like 1 20-10... that is a little to off balance for my taste. for chemical nutrients like you buy in the hardware store you do not want to exceed 1/2 teaspoon per gallon of water.

This goes for any chemical nutrients you buy in the hardware store; not just peters.

If you want look it up online if your hardware store has a website and list a few and I can tell you what is good or bad; reaosn for this is because you live in a different part of the world; a lot of times they have different brands and sometimes they have same brands as the US does.

 

[Guest]

Thanks a lot for the info blasia, sad to see your plants are turning yellow aswell, anyways im guessing the commercial crap is better than nothing.

And about the soil thingy, i water one of my 3 plants every 2 days, he's just a guy i use for pollenating and he's in quite a small pot, cba to transplant him, however the airflow in my room is very strong, very dry and very warm sometimes/ so i guess thats why they sometime dry up as fast as every 2 days
( exactly as it not should be )

Therefore i am currently building a new cab, that is not as horribly bad as the one im currently running, im hoping for better results in there :/

well anyways, best of luck to you, let's hope we get the green back into our leaves


And Stitch, thanks a lot for the info i'll be looking for something to substitute for a real nute while i order some from the net, thanks again for all the help, really appriciate it!

 

[Guest]

Yes, you have a nitrogen deficiency going, I think it's from lack of food rather than ph; reason for this the plant would be showing more issues than just yellowing of the leaves.

In your guide, you're fix includes AN Grow, so do i just pour a few ppms into the res with AN Bloom in it already? Can you mix the Grow into the Bloom?

 

[MynameStitch]

Anytime bro, good luck with your garden!

Yes you can mix grow and bloom together; AN is good stuff but I think most of there products are useless. Big bud and there grow bloom lines are great; also carbo load and b 52.... thats about it.
The amount you use depends; are you growing in hydro or soil?

 

[Guest]

Anytime bro, good luck with your garden!

Yes you can mix grow and bloom together; AN is good stuff but I think most of there products are useless. Big bud and there grow bloom lines are great; also carbo load and b 52.... thats about it.
The amount you use depends; are you growing in hydro or soil?

i will develop my own opinions when i get to your experience, but i am starting to see there's a lot of alternatives and i shouldn't buy into all the hype. i'm in hydro, but i won't jack this guy's thread cause you're already helping me out in my thread too.

 

[blAsia]

How did they turn out? Mine perked up... well, the tips burned a tiny bit, then they figured they needed it I guess, because I think they have enough to hold out another 4-5 weeks.

Peace