Yellowing fan leaves early flowering

[Earthbooty]

So I have two sour blueberry and a northernberry that are in their second week of flowering. The SB are getting pale and all of them are yellowing at the lower fan leaves. Some have fallen off. They are in organic soil and I have been using roots organics every other watering.

Should I assume they are hungry? I just fed them a normal dose. Maybe skip the plain water and feed them again? The flowers look ok but some look a little pale. The plant canopy isn't very full either but I think that's my lack of experience and thinking they were going to stretch (they didn't really).

I took pics of a few leaves I pulled from the bottom/middle.

 

[rockymountainJ]

They look like they needed a good dose of micros before flip, are you feeding bloom or veg nutes atm? Always veg nutes till 21 days or end of stretch. Kinda weird with roots feed schedule, but trust me!!

 

[Earthbooty]

Is there something in their line that would provide a good dose of micros? Elemental? I've been giving both veg and bloom, about 7ml Buddha grow and bloom per gallon. Plus surge, ancient amber, hp2, elemental, and Oregonism. I always stay on the low end of nutes maybe I shouldn't have. It's weird their schedule calls for much lower dosages than on the bottles. Like way lower.

 

[Redbuddz]

How long did you veg for and what size pots are they in???

 

[rockymountainJ]

Go check their feed schedule, i go at around 3/4 strength check out my flowers
I use veg schedule till 3 wks or so 12 12
Also hit my ladies up with cal mag before flip...
Had similar results till i changed to that.
Sure youll figure it out!!
Remember its a weed!!
You can nurture to death as well!!

 

[Earthbooty]

They were vegd for 8 weeks from seed (topped and trained) and are in 3 gal smart pots now.

Rocky Mountain you don't give any bloom nutes until the fourth week? I always followed their 5ml program but with the player pack so I was missing a couple dry amendments (guano, castings etc.)

Maybe I'll up the nitrogen a tad and see if that helps them. Nice plants btw, that's what I want! Haha I've already learned a lot so far next time should go smoother.

 

[troutman]

I'm in the same boat with some of my plants.

So today I started slowly increasing their feeding rates.

I gave some of plants just water for too long I guess.

 

[rockymountainJ]

I do master feed schedule
I stress no bloom nutes till after stretch, usually bloom feed at 3wks most what i grow are sat dominant though. Just watch the stretch, and budset. Theyd loke a 5 gal bag as well... more room lots of roots develop in the first few weeks of flower

 

[Earthbooty]

Hey troutman, I Hope that works for you man, let Us know. I did the same, I was weary about giving too much but I think I underfed for too long.

So five gallon bags would be better? Is it too late to transplant given that their in week two? I'm not sure how I would do it I would have to cut the screen and just let em go. You think it would be worth it to do? Maybe I could leave the wood frame and tie each branch off to that to space em out once the screen is gone. I'm open to suggestions but if three gal is too small then I feel like I should do whatever it takes to make em happy.

 

[rockymountainJ]

Just roll with it for now, no need to stress them. Youll do better next run!!

 

[Earthbooty]

Cool, thanks for the advice man. I'll post back with updates if I see any changes.

 

[Earthbooty]

Well the yellowing didn't get worse which is good. At least it didn't reach any New growth which is green.

What do you make of this pic though, leaves are all pointing down. Overwatering? I water each 3gal pot with about a half gallon every three to four days. I do usually have a decent runoff though, like a cm in the trays. I pick them up slightly to make sure they're dry enough too.

 

[troutman]

After feeding a little more than usual my plant has recovered. The stem had turned red
a while back from no doubt some nutrient deficiency. Now after a little bat guano grow
and bat guano flower it's green again in the new growth and the leaves are nice again.

BTW:

Drooping leaves = too much or too little water.

So add some water if they are dry.

Otherwise, If they are moist and the pot is heavier than usual
leave them alone and they'll bounce back in a few days.

 

[Earthbooty]

Glad to hear they bounced back, always nice to see em happy.

They were pretty darn dry so I just watered and will see how they look tomorrow. One of them takes forever to absorb water it must be packed down good.

 

[troutman]

I also transplanted it a few days ago and no doubt this helped as well.

Just go slow with extra nutrients and you won't fry the plant.

Another thing, I give my plants different amounts of water to see what they like.

For example:

I may give one plant 2X the water than the others to see how it responds.
This way by using one plant as a test subject I can test things out.

 

[Earthbooty]

Yea I feel like I should have upped to 5gal earlier but oh well.

That's a good idea, why subject all f em to possible issues. I have been treating them all the same but I really should try and get to know each one.

Seems the sour blueberry are hungrier than the northernberry but that's about all I have noticed.

 

[Earthbooty]

Welp things are much worse. The buds look great and are getting fatter but the plants have become light green and yellow with dying lower and middle leaves.

Sorry the lights on but the pics show the contrast nonetheless. It's end of week four. I have given them plenty of food and nitrogen through this week (RO organic schedule) but it's like they're locked out. I always ph my water to 6-6.5 and water feed water routine. Have been given extra N for the last two weeks and also a bit of calmag w each feeding. Not sure what to do I'm worried they won't make it to harvest.

I was thinking of maybe flushing them but I don't even know how I would with the screen and am afraid of what might happen if I do.

Nervous as hell.help them please! They deserve to live!

 

[Earthbooty]

I should add the leaves around the buds are starting to turn yellow as well. New growth is dark green which makes it all look so much worse.

 

[Earthbooty]

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