Yellow, Nutes, Help

[psilofyr]

Hey my plant is turning yellow on some of the leaves, it was given nutes very late cause i was unable to get the nutes until yesterday, so i think it might be the reason. it was given 2ml canna terra vega in 0,5liter water for 2 plants about 1,5 week old yesterday. Will the leaves recover, are there other things like magnesium etc etc.. The soil i'm using is normal flower soil at the store here and other say it's good.







i must also add i think they are a little overwatered cuz i had to water them again when i got the nutes.

 

[psilofyr]

Here are some more pictures.

Here are some more pictures.

added some better pictures

 

[psilofyr]

anyone?

 

[Jack Dalton]

You got same problem as me dude... I think its low N too, but someone got to confirm that to me Can someone please help this guy?! We will be so grateful

 

[wygram]

They look nice and green definitely not a shortage of N. You are near the top end (4ml/L) of the recommended dosage by canna of 5 ml/L. For such small plants and in seemingly fertile soil you are burning them.

 

[Guest]

Well I don't think it is a lack of nitrogen for sure, the tips of leaves are curled down a bit which indicates excess of nitrogen.As for the yellowing I see signs of a potasium (k) def, maybe start of magnesium def, also signs of phospherous def are evident elsewhere on leaf.The nutes may be present but locked in by incorrect ph or interactions between other elements.My suggestion would be to flush and feed with some ph corrected water with a mild flowering solution with micro's, this should alleviate your excess of N and correct the possible def's that I see.just my 2 cents.

 

[psilofyr]

They look nice and green definitely not a shortage of N. You are near the top end (4ml/L) of the recommended dosage by canna of 5 ml/L. For such small plants and in seemingly fertile soil you are burning them.

i don't think this is the reason because this happened before they got any nutes..don't think it's a burn.

 

[psilofyr]

Well I don't think it is a lack of nitrogen for sure, the tips of leaves are curled down a bit which indicates excess of nitrogen.As for the yellowing I see signs of a potasium (k) def, maybe start of magnesium def, also signs of phospherous def are evident elsewhere on leaf.The nutes may be present but locked in by incorrect ph or interactions between other elements.My suggestion would be to flush and feed with some ph corrected water with a mild flowering solution with micro's, this should alleviate your excess of N and correct the possible def's that I see.just my 2 cents.

hello, thank you for answer. I got some issues with this, first off my water is very clean with 7 in ph, after adding 4ml canna terra vega the ph is 5, after adding only 2ml canna terra vega, ph is between 6-7. Also, the reason the plant is curling down is not due to def but due to overwatering as i said in post over, i had to give them more water with nutes the day after they where already watered, my bad. For the rest i don't know maybe you are right.. for potasium, magnesium, phospherous. Does Canna Terra Vega help with all of these things, or do i need to buy more products, which?

Thank you!

 

[wygram]

You no not need more products, you need less. What you are seeing is not a deficiency due to there not being enough of something, it is a lock-out of certain elements because of an excessive nutrient concentration around the roots.

If this was happening before you watered with the nutrient solution, then your soil is too rich (hot) for these small plants. What are the NPK values for the soil?

Have you tested run-off pH?

 

[Guest]

Well, the curling down of the leaf tips definately isn't a N def, as I stated that part is a N overdose.I believe you are showing signs of def in some elements though.I am unfamiliar with the CannaTerra series so couldn't tell you about what it may or not have but I would assume that it is complete as a whole.I do know that some foods are picky as to what order you add them to the mix, and that can affect the availibility of some elements, if that were the case I'm sure it would say so on the label.Also pre-existing food can interact with new food as well, showing symptoms of def when in fact all elements are present but locked out due to interactions, or incorrect ph adjustment.

 

[MynameStitch]

First it needs it's own pot get it out of that container.

Need to know the brand of soil you are using to ensure your pH is going to be correct.

Those plants are too big for those little bottles now..... you had drainage holes in the bottom right?

You do not have a deficiency, was there anything sprayed on your plants by any chance?
What lighting are you using?

Have you tested the pH run off after watering your plants?
They show overwatered from your water and water with fed which is expected.
I would not have fed them, because they were not showing any signs of a deficiency; your soil seems to be perfect for them right now and they were not hungry.... the 3rd pic when was this taken?

Notice how the leaves are curling under a bit.... that could be due to slight nute burn or that was old happend long time ago.
WHat lighting are you using? Cause depending on when that curling happened it could have been related to lighting or the soil........

 

[psilofyr]

You no not need more products, you need less. What you are seeing is not a deficiency due to there not being enough of something, it is a lock-out of certain elements because of an excessive nutrient concentration around the roots.

If this was happening before you watered with the nutrient solution, then your soil is too rich (hot) for these small plants. What are the NPK values for the soil?

Have you tested run-off pH?

ahhh, ok i get it.. The soil's NPK is 15-5-12.. i am unable to check the run-off pH, will get ph meter soon!

 

[psilofyr]

First it needs it's own pot get it out of that container.

Need to know the brand of soil you are using to ensure your pH is going to be correct.

Those plants are too big for those little bottles now..... you had drainage holes in the bottom right?

You do not have a deficiency, was there anything sprayed on your plants by any chance?
What lighting are you using?

Have you tested the pH run off after watering your plants?
They show overwatered from your water and water with fed which is expected.
I would not have fed them, because they were not showing any signs of a deficiency; your soil seems to be perfect for them right now and they were not hungry.... the 3rd pic when was this taken?

Notice how the leaves are curling under a bit.... that could be due to slight nute burn or that was old happend long time ago.
WHat lighting are you using? Cause depending on when that curling happened it could have been related to lighting or the soil........

hello,
I have not tested the pH run off, will do so when i get my ph meter.. the soil i am using is called "flower soil" nothing more nothing less, the NPK value of the soil is 15-5-12.. And the 3rd picture is my other plant! i'm using 250w HPS light, and actually i had the light to close in the beginning making the leaves curl upwards! temp in box is 28c! yes the bottles have draining holes and they are 1,5 liters coca cola bottles with the top chopped off!

Change bottles, plants in new soil, no water, no nutes??

 

[MynameStitch]

No, if the mixture is indeed that strong; which I doubt it; because I have never seen a mixture have that high of NPK ratio... only nutes have that high of a ratio, not soil.....

either way I can tell the mixture is good in nutes by looking at the plant, since the old heat damage is heat and not nute burn, now hopefully they won't get burned.....

With there age and there size and the mixture you are using; you should not have had to use nutes yet, the markings are from something else going on; not a nutrient problem.

But first I would get them into there own pots dude.......
Then I would test the pH when you water them.........
What does the back of your soil mixture say on the bag?

The ingredients and such?

No nutes yet, just plain h20 and new pot and test the pH once it's in the new pot.
Have you sprayed your plants with anything?
The markings may have been slight bleaching due to the heat stress, cause those are the markings they leave.......

 

[psilofyr]

No, if the mixture is indeed that strong; which I doubt it; because I have never seen a mixture have that high of NPK ratio... only nutes have that high of a ratio, not soil.....

either way I can tell the mixture is good in nutes by looking at the plant, since the old heat damage is heat and not nute burn, now hopefully they won't get burned.....

With there age and there size and the mixture you are using; you should not have had to use nutes yet, the markings are from something else going on; not a nutrient problem.

But first I would get them into there own pots dude.......
Then I would test the pH when you water them.........
What does the back of your soil mixture say on the bag?

The ingredients and such?

No nutes yet, just plain h20 and new pot and test the pH once it's in the new pot.
Have you sprayed your plants with anything?
The markings may have been slight bleaching due to the heat stress, cause those are the markings they leave.......

No they have not been sprayed with anything

Will get them some new pots..

 

[MynameStitch]

Ahh, I see why it has the NPK ratio; you are from a different country than I am.

Ya, the markings were left over heat stress and light bleaching.

If you start to see browning or leaves turning or twisting; you will need to flush your plants out a bit.... this is due to over feeding or called nute burn.

So make sure you monitor your plants.
If your plants do not show nute burn, I would wait until they tell you they are hungry before feeding them, if they are growing fine not showing problems just keep doing what you are doing and don't feed until the soil has been used up of it's nutes.

When the soil gets depleted; this is when you need to start feeding regulerly, like every 6-7 days. Also don't listen to the directions on your bottle; you will end up burning them; always go by the size of the plant.

 

[psilofyr]

Ahh, I see why it has the NPK ratio; you are from a different country than I am.

Ya, the markings were left over heat stress and light bleaching.

If you start to see browning or leaves turning or twisting; you will need to flush your plants out a bit.... this is due to over feeding or called nute burn.

So make sure you monitor your plants.
If your plants do not show nute burn, I would wait until they tell you they are hungry before feeding them, if they are growing fine not showing problems just keep doing what you are doing and don't feed until the soil has been used up of it's nutes.

When the soil gets depleted; this is when you need to start feeding regulerly, like every 6-7 days. Also don't listen to the directions on your bottle; you will end up burning them; always go by the size of the plant.

placed them in another homemade bottle, 2 liters, until i get my hands on some real ones, everything here is closed today and tomorrow.

 

[MynameStitch]

Have those leaves gotten worse by any chance?

The picture on the bottom, is that one you just put it into? If so, I would have put it in a bigger pot..... not huge but bigger, cause that is not much bigger than the one it came out of...

 

[psilofyr]

Have those leaves gotten worse by any chance?

The picture on the bottom, is that one you just put it into? If so, I would have put it in a bigger pot..... not huge but bigger, cause that is not much bigger than the one it came out of...

Hey man, just came home from my easter vacation, been away for 4 days and my plants look bad. I have no other pots, will get them tomorrow when everything is open again! Picture is comming soon, the leaves that were yellow are now dead.

 

[psilofyr]

I just gave em water!