Yay big me!

[Floridian]

After 13 years of daily methadone maintenance there is a possibility I really may pull it off.Your chances are pretty slim to actually detox after a decade of daily use.I know there are a lot of people out there like me and god I hope the thread doesn't meet a tragic end like so many times my true love KG would shut it down.Didnt matter if the subject was uplifting and could help scores of people,it simply didn't matter.She never like me much.My message is more than uplifting folks I was taking 120 mils a day for many years.Today I did 15 mils.5 milligrams every two weeksis the way to do it with minimum discomfort.Yea discomfort they have no idea a heroin habit is much faster to kick and isn't as painful.Anyway folks it can be done I'll be going on 10 mills Saturday for 2 weeks then 5 for 2 weeks then play by ear.I'm so fuckin exited people this will be one fof my hardest accomplishments for sure!You think when you get down to 10 then 5 milligrams that it surely couldn't be that bad.well it is and worse.After you totally discontinue the medicine,you cant sleep for 2-6 months worth a shit.This is the hardest part for sure,after being awake night after night for the most part the "stinkin thinkin" proceeds to fuck with your head and every cell in your gorgeous lol boody.It is brutal and after 13 years the only thing that can compare is failure after soo much effort.Please let this stay a day or two Old Pink.Glorifying drug use is the last of my intentions.Sure would like several folks just starting out on 20 or 30 mills to understand the myriad ways your life will change for the worse.

 

[Green81]

Big respect to you for what your achieving, I'm sure everyone at IC feels the same!

 

[trichrider]

demerol, methadone, and valium habit(addiction) for years, quit cold...ok i used weed, but i quit...oh and cigarettes too! same time.

so i know you can do it.

best regards.

rider

 

[floralheart]

Cool

 

[chronosync]

consider yourself a dragon slayer. it's a beast but you can kill it.

i dont know what junk is like but i know about some other shit. i know what its like to want more than ANYTHING to make that pain, that need, to just STOP. the guilt the cycle the hopelessness the defiance the denial the excuses the pleading the hate the loss the regret the shame the pride the struggle the LOSS. THE WITHDRAWAL.
fuck its not easy. no one ever said it is, and its never what they tell you its going to be like, but fuck it. i've been sober for 4 months now and for me that seems like a miracle. everyone says that but everyone whos given it a fight deserves to feel it. think of Andy Dufresne from Shawshank Redemption.
"who crawled through a river of shit and came out clean on the other side"
HANG IN THERE. it gets better. i dont need to tell you what you already know.

kill the bitch and plant some flowers on her grave

 

[Lester Beans]

Best vibes for your difficult journey for which I pray you come out the other side free of the burden.

Be strong friend!!

 

[dannykarey]

Ah, the golden handcuffs..............I jumped off at 100ml's, never looked back. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done.

Goodluck my friend and stay strong....You got this!!!

Danny

 

[Floridian]

Thanks so much everyone I worked as an electrician for around 25 years and I just couldn't work anymore I was still in pain so fuck it,Since I'm out of electrical construction I wanted to see if I really think I still need it.15 mils folks,that really means so much to me.And yea was diagnosed with degneritive disc disease when I was 20.You know I had worse days working as an electrician when I was 25 than at say..45.Does not make a lot of sense to me but that's how it isI'm fitty five now.I had none of that shit n me when I entered the world and wont have any when I leave

 

[944s2]

Hey Floridian ,,
Well done mate,,,,,you have done amazingly well.,,,,
I been clean for 25 years now and yes,,,a cold turkey from smack is a piece of piss compared the hell one goes through with methadone,,,
Floridian please don't underestimate the final tem mil,,,chances are withdrawal could kick in five days or so after your final dose , it takes a good while to get out of your system,
Great news buddy,,,
Very best of luck,,
Peace and regards s2,

 

[stoned-trout]

best of luck ... I grew up around junkies and such...my hate of needles is the only thing that saved me...opiates in any form are a mean demon to battle...I hope you win....yeehaw...the friends I knew on methadone were made to go get their dose at weird hours..allegedly to stop those who don't really need it WTF???

 

[m314]

Good luck. I've gone through opiate withdrawal several times. I wouldn't wish it on anyone. The mental / emotional part was hardest for me.

I can't imagine what it's like coming of years of high dose methadone. Stay strong, and you'll get through it. Feeling shitty tapering down is a temporary thing as long as you stick with it.

 

[Stoner4Life]

good luck to you Floridian, my papa
didn't raise no quitter though.......

 

[blastfrompast]

So i have a cousin recovering from nasty surguries due to cancer...

They will be trying to get her off of her opiate pump and fentyl patches and by the sounds of things I sure do hope she doesn't get put on methadone....

Why is it so much worse?

 

[chuckyoufarley]

Floridian .it is a very tough road but you have to stick with it .it does come down to the old cliche of being sick and tired of being sick and tired.the cure was harder to kick then the heroin habit i had but i did it .i walked off the methadone program after being weened down to 30 mils a day and kicking that took about 2 months of sleeping a hr (mabbe) a night and working full time to .i fell back in the shit and then after doing 1 bag instead of 3 like i used to do at once i ODed and was dead for 5 min,the docs say i was lucky they got me back after 2 shots narcan a cpl addrennaline and the paddles with cpr and that was on mothers day 22 yrs ago and i have not touched it again.i wish you the best on this

 

[m314]

The long half life of methadone lengthens the withdrawal period. The acute withdrawal phase with most opiates is over in a week. Methadone withdrawal (cold turkey) can last 5 or 6 weeks, with months of PAWS (post acute withdrawal syndrome) afterwards.

 

[m314]

Floridian .it is a very tough road but you have to stick with it .it does come down to the old cliche of being sick and tired of being sick and tired.the cure was harder to kick then the heroin habit i had but i did it .i walked off the methadone program after being weened down to 30 mils a day and kicking that took about 2 months of sleeping a hr (mabbe) a night and working full time to .i fell back in the shit and then after doing 1 bag instead of 3 like i used to do at once i ODed and was dead for 5 min,the docs say i was lucky they got me back after 2 shots narcan a cpl addrennaline and the paddles with cpr and that was on mothers day 22 yrs ago and i have not touched it again.i wish you the best on this

I wish you the best on this too. My best friend Mike had a story like yours. He was on and off heroin and methadone for over a decade. He quit multiple times before he quit for good. He was clean opiate wise for the last 7 years. Still a major pothead, which I think was a positive influence in his life.

His gf of 7 years dumped him this year. He got depressed, who wouldn't. He relapsed on heroin and died of an overdose in September. His buddies there with him were too fucked up to realize he was dead until the next morning. I still can't believe he's gone.

 

[Rumblefish]

G day ,mate its going to be a fucking hard road for the next couple of months ,sick and tired of being sick and tired has to be the most accurate discription of where I'm guessing your at,the long night staring at the ceiling are hideous but bear in mind your body needs rest and to eventually establish a normal sleep pattern now is the time to discipline yourself and stay in bed for at least 5-6 hours ,plenty of hot showers and plenty of gentle exercise ,walking is great but lots of it, food ,good whole foods but you will surely crave for lots of sugar, the sugar craving got so bad for me I would drink honey out of the jar just to get it into me as fast as I could ,support network is imperative,to put it bluntly I was a real c-hunt when I detoxed ,rude and abrasive barley describe my disposition ,so 4 the peeps around you I suggest you apologys in advance and make sure that they know whats going on ,the couple of friends I lived with were so stand up amazing but they had good insight as to what I was going through so tolerated my shitfull disposition and gave me support and a good kick in the backside when I needed it ,fuck I cried a lot too! Im not one for public displays of emotion but fuck I cried like a baby and didn't even know why ,emotionally I was a train wreck but the good news is that eventually it gets better ,it may seem at times that its not going to but you have to hang onto the notion of "it will pass" long long nights and no company can see one wind up in a bad state of mind..you have to be proactive! ,have a plan for each day,don't sit on ya backside and stare at the fucking television all day find something to do and remember "feeling aren't facts " just because you feel something negative like the urge to go and use something it doesn't mean you have to and your going to have to keep telling yourself that and yes for me it was the hardest thing I have ever done ,I grew up addicted to smack from a young teenage boy of 14 and when I dried out at 30 year old it was like emotionally i was still 14 ,I had no skill's other than being a junkie and didn't have a clue what I wanted to do but it unfolded as time went on and when I look back especially at that first year it humbles me to think that so many people came into my life and were willing to take me at face value and help me navigate my way to were I am today I found out I was HIV poz six months into being dry that was 30 years ago this coming January and that was as good as being handed a death sentence back in those days and as good a reason to go and use as any I have ever had but fuck it I don't even know why I just knew that if I was going to die from fucking AIDS that I wanted to do it feeling like a fucking human being and not the drug fucked emotionally numb person I was ...you can do it mate, Im no one special and I did you just have to want to do it and that where the real battle lye's ..peace and best wishes

 

[chuckyoufarley]

and you will have to stay away from dope fiend friends when it comes to .i moved 180 miles to a place where i didnt know anyone but my parents and they sure as hell wouldnt get me high or try to get me to score for them lol.i laugh now but not at all back then .

 

[Floridian]

Wow thanks for all the support people I knew there would be several people with my experience but damn!I received a lot of good ideas and advice from reading this.I know on 10 mils I am on a "pink cloud" so to say and shit will slam the fan soon when I'm off.Its the lack of sleep that gets most people back on.I swear I didn't sleep for 4 months when I went through this decades ago.Toss,turn,scratch the nads,repeat.Its enough to make and already crazy person crazierlol

 

[blastfrompast]

floridian..

Any chance of using HIGH dose edibles to give your body the "sleep" it needs...aka "almost green-out"?

better than benzo's.... Just trying to think outside the box a bit...