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Would This Green Dragon Idea Work?
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Yes, mash it up good too
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Freeze the weed first.
Grind well.
Use everclear.
I put about a half of bud in a mickey (375)
No need for the slow cooker. Plus that much hear could be detrimental... when I speed dry bud in a food dehydrator it still gets you blasted but tastes like shit
Grind well.
Use everclear.
I put about a half of bud in a mickey (375)
No need for the slow cooker. Plus that much hear could be detrimental... when I speed dry bud in a food dehydrator it still gets you blasted but tastes like shit
Just boiling in water won´t work but I might have misunderstood you. I usually grind weed, pour on Everclear, let it sit for a few days shaking now and then after which I filter the solution, squeze the weed dry and then I reduce to 1/3 volume over heat BUT with good ventilation (ethanol fumes are flammable). This is more of a tincture but works very well.
And Everclear tastes good? 
If you did the slow cooker method I imagine you'd find hash oil after a night, possibly burned to the bottle (which you could add alcohol back to for a tincture). Green Dragon is really just hash with some alcohol left over, keep cooking the alcohol off and you have hash oil.
To simplify the process all you're doing is mixing weed with alcohol. The difference in polarity causes THC/terpenes/chlorophyll in the weed to dissolve in the alcohol. You heat it to activate the THC, strain out any leafy matter and you're just left with the THC/terpene/alcohol mixture (this is technically GD). Now as part of the heating you're evaporating alcohol and thus your mixture gets stronger as the THC/terpenes and such will not evaporate with the alcohol. If you boil off all alcohol you're just left with THC/terpenes/etc (eg hash oil), leave a bit of alcohol and you have a tincture. All kinds of nuances to how you want to go about each step but that's a quick overview.
If you did the slow cooker method I imagine you'd find hash oil after a night, possibly burned to the bottle (which you could add alcohol back to for a tincture). Green Dragon is really just hash with some alcohol left over, keep cooking the alcohol off and you have hash oil.
To simplify the process all you're doing is mixing weed with alcohol. The difference in polarity causes THC/terpenes/chlorophyll in the weed to dissolve in the alcohol. You heat it to activate the THC, strain out any leafy matter and you're just left with the THC/terpene/alcohol mixture (this is technically GD). Now as part of the heating you're evaporating alcohol and thus your mixture gets stronger as the THC/terpenes and such will not evaporate with the alcohol. If you boil off all alcohol you're just left with THC/terpenes/etc (eg hash oil), leave a bit of alcohol and you have a tincture. All kinds of nuances to how you want to go about each step but that's a quick overview.
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I can't imagine green dragon rum, yak!
I know the process is supposed to take 30 days. I'll have to get the oldtimers recipe and report back.
I can't imagine green dragon rum, yak!
I know the process is supposed to take 30 days. I'll have to get the oldtimers recipe and report back.
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Its a heat bath, not double boiling off the EToH
It just speeds up the extraction...works fine if you're trying to make something fast
It just speeds up the extraction...works fine if you're trying to make something fast
My goal is to extract the THC asap, because I need it fairly soon. I'm going to use a half ounce instead of a quarter, and put it in a 750 ml bottle. Then put a bit of water in the cooker, throw in the bottle, and let it sit overnight, but I may just keep it on for a day or two just to be sure. Do you think all the THC will be extracted? In addition, is there a risk of the bottle exploding or anything like that? I read that the High setting on slow cookers can run about 250 degrees.
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I think it will come out fine, if its not strong enough you can reduce the volume via double boiling or just take more, dont use the whole 750ml, people pressure cook mason jars to sterilize them all the time, I would use one of those instead, you might not need that much heat either, take it out and shake it like a maraca and mash it every so often
Well I did it. Put about 13 grams into a 3/4 full bottle of vodka. Now I have that bottle in a slow cooker full of water set on "keep warm," which is actually keeping it pretty hot. I'm a bit concerned about the bottle shattering or pressure building up, should I be concerned?
My plan is to run it all night, maybe all day tomorrow just so I know that all the THC is extracted, and hopefully that extended heating will maybe decarb it a bit, since I forgot to do that before hand. Wish me luck.
My plan is to run it all night, maybe all day tomorrow just so I know that all the THC is extracted, and hopefully that extended heating will maybe decarb it a bit, since I forgot to do that before hand. Wish me luck.
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I would have put way more weed in there, you will have to reduce it unless you plan on getting shot blasted
You don't need to wait overnight for extraction, and you definitely don't need the pressure cooker.
An hour or two is all the exposure time needed to fully extract the cannabinoids. The longer you leave it, you are just pulling lipids and chlorophyll out of the plant material, giving that 'green taste' to the tincture. I prefer tinctures to be golden from resin, and to do that you limit the exposure time.
375 ml of ethanol, vodka or Everclear is more than enough to pull the cannabinoids from 7 grams of cannabis in an hour or two of passive soaking- shake the bottle every 15 minutes if you are worried you are not getting all the goods. You are not even close to the saturation point of the solvent at that ratio. Using cannabis that is 15% THC, that is only ~1050 mg THC / 375 ml solvent. That's just under 100 mg/ fluid Oz which is a decent whackdown for most.
HTH,
-Chimera
An hour or two is all the exposure time needed to fully extract the cannabinoids. The longer you leave it, you are just pulling lipids and chlorophyll out of the plant material, giving that 'green taste' to the tincture. I prefer tinctures to be golden from resin, and to do that you limit the exposure time.
375 ml of ethanol, vodka or Everclear is more than enough to pull the cannabinoids from 7 grams of cannabis in an hour or two of passive soaking- shake the bottle every 15 minutes if you are worried you are not getting all the goods. You are not even close to the saturation point of the solvent at that ratio. Using cannabis that is 15% THC, that is only ~1050 mg THC / 375 ml solvent. That's just under 100 mg/ fluid Oz which is a decent whackdown for most.
HTH,
-Chimera
It's not in a pressure cooker, but a slow cooker/crock pot. It has reached a steady 150 as per a meat thermometer. I think I'll leave it going for a few hours then take it off, as I want to be very sure that it contains all possible THC. I put about 13 grams of some B+, pretty good but not that good kinda stuff, into what I estimate to be about 600 milliliters of vodka. Do you think that will be potent enough to drink an ounce, or hopefully less, of alcohol to get average to strong effects?
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I would reduce to at least 300ml gives you roughly 1/13th @ 23ml
Or 150ml = 1/13th @ 11.5ml
Or 150ml = 1/13th @ 11.5ml
You haven't said what type of solvent you are using, spirits or Everclear etc.
I would not recommend reducing as _tessaracting suggests.
Ethanol boils at 78.37 degress C / 173 degrees F. Water boils @ 100 deg C / 212 F.
That means as you heat the mixture, you will be removing more ethanol than water as you try to reduce, you'll probably remove more solvent and keep in the water, which is not helpful to your goal. Your cannabs are going to want to crash out of the solution and stick to your bottle/container. You want to keep a high level of solvent, and reduce water, if anything, which means using less water to start off with. That means starting with Everclear (20% water) rather than Vodka (60% water), or better yet use 200 proof Ethanol (100% Ethanol).
It's not just about the number of milliliters total; it's about the amount of cannabs dissolved in your solvent, which is ethanol. Water is contaminate, and is working against you.
Also, using a heat source you are going to boil off all the monoterps that may have been present in the cannabis to start with.... sesquiterps like humulene and beta-caryophyllene are going to remain to a greater degree (they volatilize and boil off at an even lower temp than the ethanol). Point being, more heat means you are removing active components of your mixture.
IMO, you really want to do this process cold, with an excess of solvent to ensure you recover the total cannabs possible. I make tinctures in the freezer, with a relative quick wash so as not to extract unwanted components, ie lipids and chlorophyll.
2 cents, take it as you will.
-Chimera
I would not recommend reducing as _tessaracting suggests.
Ethanol boils at 78.37 degress C / 173 degrees F. Water boils @ 100 deg C / 212 F.
That means as you heat the mixture, you will be removing more ethanol than water as you try to reduce, you'll probably remove more solvent and keep in the water, which is not helpful to your goal. Your cannabs are going to want to crash out of the solution and stick to your bottle/container. You want to keep a high level of solvent, and reduce water, if anything, which means using less water to start off with. That means starting with Everclear (20% water) rather than Vodka (60% water), or better yet use 200 proof Ethanol (100% Ethanol).
It's not just about the number of milliliters total; it's about the amount of cannabs dissolved in your solvent, which is ethanol. Water is contaminate, and is working against you.
Also, using a heat source you are going to boil off all the monoterps that may have been present in the cannabis to start with.... sesquiterps like humulene and beta-caryophyllene are going to remain to a greater degree (they volatilize and boil off at an even lower temp than the ethanol). Point being, more heat means you are removing active components of your mixture.
IMO, you really want to do this process cold, with an excess of solvent to ensure you recover the total cannabs possible. I make tinctures in the freezer, with a relative quick wash so as not to extract unwanted components, ie lipids and chlorophyll.
2 cents, take it as you will.
-Chimera
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Good to know, I just couldnt see ingesting that much alcohol
Nobody can tell you that, it completely depends on how much THC is in your starting material, nothing more nothing less. Your solvent is sufficient to remove all of the cannabinoids, end of story.
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