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Wilting overnight!!!..wtf??

scrappy

On the road to clone only...
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I don't understand it..things are moving along then...ZANG!...this is the second plant,(two different strains, and not in a row) that this has happened to in my garden....anyone??? :fsu:




 

green_grow

Active member
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i had a bone-dry plant bend over like that. watered it in the morning and 9 hours later it was good as new .
 

I2KanGrow

Active member
Off the top of my (albeit quite inexperienced) head - they look soggy... VERY soggy!! (Very wide fan leaves) Have you been letting them totally dry-out before watering?
 
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Core

Quality Control Controller
ICMag Donor
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last time i saw a plant like that ...i gave it pure alcohol.....duh i mixed up bottles...but this is't the case i presume....lmao
and also not giving liquids will do this....hope you find it !!
 

GMT

The Tri Guy
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check out the roots. That looks lie it isnt able to process and draw up what it needs. Can I ask if you reuse soil? Not sure what they are, but in mine, if I reuse soil, there seem to be little clear wormy things that attack the stems and roots of poorly developed root systems. Just unearth it and see if there are any wormy things attacking the stem/new roots.
 

scrappy

On the road to clone only...
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1..not over/nuder watered
2. nutes are earth juice bloom, blackstrap mollassas, alaskan fish emulsion, and som earth juice meta-k
3.GMT..I have seen the "worms" before, but only in the soil of my clones after 2-3 weeks of seeing not roots. Never looked in veg dirt before
4. thanks for all the input
 
G

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I'm not sure of the techical term but I think it's reverse osmosis, where a build up of salts (nutes) in the soil causes the medium to suck the moisture out of the plant instead of the other way around.
 

scrappy

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any suggestions??...should I expect this from the other 5 plants in this batch?
 
G

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If it is a salt buildup then flushing might help. What are you using for a medium? Usually slight overfertilization over a period of time causes the salts to build up to a point where it'll dehydrate the plant. I think mediums with a high buffering ability are more susceptable as they release nutrients gradually and if you keep adding nutes even though they are still being held in the medium eventually they reach the critical stage. I have tried flushing some plants that have had salt buildup and it acted like some sort of release and it killed the plant though, a safer but slower way to go might be just to give them pure water for a spell til they use up the nutrients already available in the medium.
 

Blackvelvet

Member
Home gardeners should be aware that there are several agents that can cause wilting of their
vegetables or flowers. The most common type of wilting occurs just after transplanting into dry soil,
especially on a hot day. This is the result of a root system that is not yet in close contact with water
in the soil. Similarly, plants that are well established may wilt after a prolonged dry spell; giving the
plants some water can reverse this.
Infections by bacteria and fungi can also cause wilting symptoms. Vascular wilt pathogens infect the
vascular (water conducting) system of the plant. The pathogen or the toxins produced by the
pathogen can be moved throughout the entire plant along with the plant's sap. A pathogen invading
the roots may cause disease symptoms at the top of the plant.

http://www.uoguelph.ca/pdc/Factsheets/PDFs/120VascularWiltGarden.pdf
 
Hey, that looks just like the Armenian cucumber plants My neigbors cats killed by using the planter as a litterbox...

Any cats around?

Martha S.
 

scrappy

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1. no cats...the strain is chemist
2. it's under cfls, and always has been.
3. thanks for that info Blackvelvet.
4. rudedude, I use promix bx with perlite, bone, blood meal, dolomite lime...1 cup each per 5 gallons promix, then 25% perlite
5. thanks everyone for your inputs...there is no change in the plant, good, or bad.
 

Blackvelvet

Member
scrappy said:
I use promix bx with perlite, bone, blood meal, dolomite lime...1 cup each per 5 gallons promix, then 25% perlite
Then you started adding this...

nutes are earth juice bloom, blackstrap mollassas, alaskan fish emulsion, and som earth juice meta-k
Your soil may in fact be too salty. 3.2 tablespoons per gallon of mix dolomite lime is way too much.
 

scrappy

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Blackvelvet said:
Then you started adding this...


Your soil may in fact be too salty. 3.2 tablespoons per gallon of mix dolomite lime is way too much.

that is the Bog Mix...I've only had one other plant do this...I've used this method for over 2 yrs. :joint:

btw..the plant's not going to make it.. :badday:
 
scrappy said:
that is the Bog Mix...I've only had one other plant do this...I've used this method for over 2 yrs. :joint:

btw..the plant's not going to make it.. :badday:

shitty, but as a learning lesson for everybody else, let us know what the roots look like. It looks like an uptake issue. It looks a lot like underwatering, perhaps due to a root issue.
 
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