Wilting Clones @ 12 hours

[Guest]

Hello,

This is a picture 12 hours after I took the cuttings. Let me know if this is normal. I'm not sure that I cut them in the right spot. The only other clones I've taken were from the maristem (top) on some shitty bag seed that I ran a test on.


Here is a diagram of where I made the cut.




I dipped the cut stem (45* angle cut) in liquid rooting hormone for roughly 1-2 minutes per cutting.

I also trimmed off some of the ends of the leaves so that it would root faster.

The rockwool was soaked in pH 5.6 water prior to putting the cutting in.

I shook most of the water out of the RW cubes.

*****question: Is this wilting normal?*******

 

[Guest]

I'd say no - but it depends. Are you misting these? Didn't mention that in your post. Also, are these in a humidity dome or some cover so that the humidity raises high enough for the leaves to take in water? Lastly, what are the temps for these?

They may be needing water, lacking humidity, cold or just slowly recovering from shock - though I've never seen em wilt like that unless one of the above was incorrectly configured.

 

[Guest]

Its too early to tell. It is common for new cuts to be limp like that and they look healthy enough to make it. Clones like their rootzones to be warm so a heating pad or a warm surface (fridge, comp.) helps. They look like they need some more time to root though. Heres a good cloning guide. Ive had great results with this method. gl

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=46778

 

[Guest]

It looks like you cut them at the right spot but i like to take cuts right on a node and just remove the fan leaves, this sometimes helps them root faster. But you say you dipped for 1-2 minutes? that seems like overkill but i could be wrong, are you using gel or dipngrow.

A couple very important tips that have helped me tremendously are:

1. Use latex gloves / new razor
2. Prep mom = feed only clean water for 1 week prior to taking cuts*
3. Soak rockwool cubes with icecold ph balanced clean water.
4. first 24 hrs of the new cut do not add heat (helps keep turgor)
5. 99% humidity dome for the first 4 days- do not mist (spoil)

Hope this helps ya.

 

[JJScorpio]

Do you have those in a dome? They look pretty wilty. Did you saturate them the day before you cut them? I put a sticky thread in the indoor section that pretty much covers everything. I also see some lower growth that could have been taken off....

 

[Guest]

I'd say no - but it depends. Are you misting these? Didn't mention that in your post. Also, are these in a humidity dome or some cover so that the humidity raises high enough for the leaves to take in water? Lastly, what are the temps for these?

They may be needing water, lacking humidity, cold or just slowly recovering from shock - though I've never seen em wilt like that unless one of the above was incorrectly configured.

I misted them before I put them in the box.

The box temp is prolly in the 80s or so...

I sealed them in there with saran wrap & tape.

The box is lined with a white garbage bag to maintain humidity.

 

[Blackvelvet]

Keep a fine film of water on the cuttings if they are wilting.

 

[LetUsC]

Environment too dry?

Environment too dry?

Dont see any condensation on the cover, sure its humid enough in there? Also, is there a decent amount of room between top of plants and cover?

 

[Guest]

Dont see any condensation on the cover, sure its humid enough in there? Also, is there a decent amount of room between top of plants and cover?

Yeah there is plenty of room... they seem to be perking up a bit, but they're all twisted now from drooping and now perking up again. I think it was just shock + low humidity initially.

I'll keep you all posted if anything else goes wrong. Thanks again! wish me luck that the 4 out of 10 beans that survived aren't all male.... =/

 

[Guest]

If your home made dome is completely sealed your cuts will die. The cuts and future roots need some air. The store bought domes don't form an air tight seal ... neither should you. If you scrape the stem up a bit (using very little pressure) water will reach the bast (I use a clean plastic knife as the serrated edge doesn't cut very deep). Remember to keep the knife at a 90 degree angle to the stem (you want to strip the outer layer with the grain not cut against it). If you just sliced the stem at a 45 it may have sealed itself and water is not being taken up the cut. I take the cut then scrape the stem about 1 1/2 inches up from the slice then I coat in rooting agent and then I stick in a moist medium. Misting the dome or the cuts is not necessary in my garden. I just keep the medium moist and warm until roots show. Keep in mind that I'm no expert on "cloning" but I have increased my % of cuts that live dramatically using this method.

 

[Guest]

Its a good idea to srtip the stem ever so slightly, usually i would use a plastic knife as it scrapes a minute amount off, it can be done with the razor but if not gentle you risk cutting too deep and increasing the rate of potential infection...it really depends on how hardwooded the cut is though..soft hollow stems root easy and dont need the scrape, oh yea if ya get a chance for shits n giggles try the ice cold water tech...soak 1 cube insert cut- add Zero Heat for first 24-48 hrs..do not mist....i bet they dont wilt on ya.