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Will this work?

bobcat1963

bobcat1963

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I'm trying to determine sex on two North london Church,If i were to place a cutting of each in a cup of water and put them under 12/12,will they show sex?Thought I read a thread about this a couple years ago,but the search came up empty.
Thanks in advance,Bob
 
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it can and has worked, it's much easier to do this when the moon is waxing (it helps to draw liquids "up"). If you're so inclined, you can test out some of that "chrysal clear" shit that's given with cut flowers. It definitely has stuff in it that helps cut orchids bloom fully, so it may aid cannabis in flowering-- but it also might mess with sex, so who knows...
 
joe fresh

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your bestt bet to determine sex is to take a few cuttings and place root them, then either flower out the mother or a clone ....then figure out sex and still keep genetics....


what you are trying to do i dont think will work, but this is just my opinion as i have never tried it...i think that the fact that the cutting is trying to root and flower at the same time is just too demanding on the little cutting and it will not survive long enough to do do it...or it will take longer to root under 12/12(like a month or more) then take a bit longer to start flowering...

but this is just my opinion and dont want to deter you from your experiment if you plan to do it...
 
JOE CHRONIC

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bobcat1963 said:
I'm trying to determine sex on two North london Church,If i were to place a cutting of each in a cup of water and put them under 12/12,will they show sex?Thought I read a thread about this a couple years ago,but the search came up empty.
Thanks in advance,Bob
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Bob,

Good idea, please post back with your results...
 
trichrider

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joe fresh said:
your bestt bet to determine sex is to take a few cuttings and place root them, then either flower out the mother or a clone ....then figure out sex and still keep genetics....


what you are trying to do i dont think will work, but this is just my opinion as i have never tried it...i think that the fact that the cutting is trying to root and flower at the same time is just too demanding on the little cutting and it will not survive long enough to do do it...or it will take longer to root under 12/12(like a month or more) then take a bit longer to start flowering...

but this is just my opinion and dont want to deter you from your experiment if you plan to do it...
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oh, i missed that...
 
señorsloth

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i know that cloning plants while they are flowering takes longer, but it is very possible, i'm not sure about inducing flowering while it's rooting because the plant isn't really growing while it's rooting, i get about 2 weeks of no growth at all, then the roots spring out in a matter of days...i would think since the plant isn't growing it wouldn't flower...and i think the confusion from trying to clone and flower would just stress it into slowing down even more...personally i don't think they would start showing sex till that have made some roots, but you would probably have slowed the process down, the longer it takes to root a clone, the better chance of it dying...

i flower my clones in a sea of green after 3 days veg now, i used to do it right away, but if the clone wasn't really well rooted they would have a tendency to just never grow...they survive the whole flowering period, but usually stay static and about 3 inches tall for the first 6 weeks of budding, then maybe pop out like 4-10 individual calyxes(like a quarter gram of pot lol)...i don't know this for sure but i had always assumed it was caused by throwing the clone into flowering before it was fully rooted...i have since been vegging for 3 days, not enough to see a huge amount of growth, just enough to get them growing again after the cloning process that stunts them.

i personally don't think it would work, or if it did, it wouldn't be very reliable...

it takes about 6 weeks to get a decent clone mom from seed anyway, at that point they usually reach sexual maturity, so you don't need to mess with testing clones, you just check the pre-flowers...i would suggest just doing that, i have always found the idea of taking clones, waiting for them to root, then flowering them only to throw them away once sex is discovered to be a tedious endeavor...i just wait for 6 to 8 weeks before i take clones and the problem solves itself. on another note mom plants over 2 months old usually produce clones that jump into budding a week before it's seed counterparts, and finish a week earlier too, so to me that's just another excuse to wait an extra week or two for sex to show on it's own.
 
Cartel530

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there is a grow video on youtube where the guy is painted green. he does this but he places them in hydroton on a flood and drain and it works. im currently trying it in a dome. ill look for the video
 
exploziv

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I did it in the past and it works. sometimes, it's even faster than you would expect from a branch attached to a plant in the ground.

It can be something related to the stress that the plant is in, maybe that speeds the things up a bit. But I don't recommend using that clone after you see the sex, even if it roots. Too much stress at once. Or, at least, this is my rule. :2cents:
 
trichrider

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why would this be any more stressful than rooting a cut out the flowering phase?

same things going on at the same time...
 
bobcat1963

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This did not work out for me this time,but I have a fully rooted cutting to put under 12/12.I will keep trying.:)
 
trichrider

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bobcat1963 said:
This did not work out for me this time,but I have a fully rooted cutting to put under 12/12.I will keep trying.:)
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no! wait. didn't you have it under 12/12 the whole time as you were trying to identify sex? still no preflowers, no sign at all?
...let me know.
thanks,
 
bobcat1963

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trichrider said:
no! wait. didn't you have it under 12/12 the whole time as you were trying to identify sex? still no preflowers, no sign at all?
...let me know.
thanks,
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You are correct sir I misspoke.Its been under 12/12 the whole time,it did root and I placed it from water into my soilless mix.Still no preflowers.It seems all its energy went into root growth.Bob
 
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