Why is it so hard...

[Feyd]

To call people back? And I'm not just talking about getting side tracked while talking to your aunt and telling her you'll ring her in half an hour, I'm talking about getting interviewed for a job and then being told to wait for a phone call that never occurs.

I've been trying to get some direction in life and part of getting shit going is getting some money, and to get money you generally need a job. So I contact this guy who posts a job on craigslist saying he's looking for people to work in the "newly opened" Y-Cafe in the YMCA. I figure this will be an easy part-time job, and I could probably get a 2nd one and then when the next semester rolls around I could keep the one I like best, or pays best.

I figure I have a good chance of getting it, seeing as I meet all the requirements (I can be verbally articulate when I need to, but seeing as how I'm going to be making smoothies and serving nachos to youths, I don't think I need to worry about communication skills. And cash handling isn't a skill developed by many years of college either). The fact that it was "newly opened" gave me the idea that the first qualified individuals to apply would have a good chance of getting the job. So I e-mailed him and set up an interview for the next day.

During the interview, I thought it went well. He asked me all the questions I thought he would. Such as "What would you say your greatest strength is?" Or "Why do you want to work here?" All that bullshit. I handed him my application that he was going to give to his boss, and he told me he'd run it by him next chance he got and schedule a second interview.

I call him the following Friday, and he was beating around the bush some more about whether or not he had talked to him, told me he'd call me Tuesday. Well, that was yesterday, and I haven't heard a word yet. Not even a response to my e-mails.

So I'm sending this e-mail, I just hope he doesn't think I'm being too rude or take it as an excuse to not give me the job.

Hey I'm not sure if this e-mail address is still valid seeing as it is the one posted from craigslist, but I've already tried calling you and I'm not sure if you just don't get my messages or what.

What exactly is going on? The interview was last Tuesday. I called you the following Friday (which I thought was a little late on my part to follow up), and you told me you'd call me back Monday (because you hadn't gotten a chance to go into work I believe you said). I called you yesterday, which was Tuesday (a full week from the interview). I'm not sure if you've had the chance to speak with your boss yet but I assume you have seeing as how a whole week went by, but that would mean you would have called me by now.

I'm going to call you again tomorrow until I get up with you, whether it is good or bad news. I've been jerked around like this from a previous potential employer and I don't understand why it is so hard to get back in touch with me. I apologize if I sound rude (I am not trying to, I am just concerned) and I look forward to hearing from you.

PS - I saw another post by you (unless you have another co-worker named Rob) saying you are looking for "Moms" for the same position I applied and was interviewed for.. so am I to take this as a hint that I wasn't cut out for job?

Thanks in advance,
Cory

Why do people have to be such fucking asshats.
Sorry, had to rant, I'm a little pissed atm.

 

[NOKUY]

To call people back? And I'm not just talking about getting side tracked while talking to your aunt and telling her you'll ring her in half an hour, I'm talking about getting interviewed for a job and then being told to wait for a phone call that never occurs.

I've been trying to get some direction in life and part of getting shit going is getting some money, and to get money you generally need a job. So I contact this guy who posts a job on craigslist saying he's looking for people to work in the "newly opened" Y-Cafe in the YMCA. I figure this will be an easy part-time job, and I could probably get a 2nd one and then when the next semester rolls around I could keep the one I like best, or pays best.

I figure I have a good chance of getting it, seeing as I meet all the requirements (I can be verbally articulate when I need to, but seeing as how I'm going to be making smoothies and serving nachos to youths, I don't think I need to worry about communication skills. And cash handling isn't a skill developed by many years of college either). The fact that it was "newly opened" gave me the idea that the first qualified individuals to apply would have a good chance of getting the job. So I e-mailed him and set up an interview for the next day.

During the interview, I thought it went well. He asked me all the questions I thought he would. Such as "What would you say your greatest strength is?" Or "Why do you want to work here?" All that bullshit. I handed him my application that he was going to give to his boss, and he told me he'd run it by him next chance he got and schedule a second interview.

I call him the following Friday, and he was beating around the bush some more about whether or not he had talked to him, told me he'd call me Tuesday. Well, that was yesterday, and I haven't heard a word yet. Not even a response to my e-mails.

So I'm sending this e-mail, I just hope he doesn't think I'm being too rude or take it as an excuse to not give me the job.


Why do people have to be such fucking asshats.
Sorry, had to rant, I'm a little pissed atm.

send that and you def. wont get the job.

If you did got on regardless, there would already be tension w/ the employer, and they will wonder how you will react to any given negative scenario.

It's not that I don't think you should send the e-mail (do whatever you want).

I'd word it differently tho if I wanted the job.

If I knew I didnt want the job I'd add sum (many) 4-letter words in there and send it anyway.

...or squash the negative energy and start looking for another job lead.

good luck tho

 

[Feyd]

Yeah man I'm already looking for other jobs. It's just a part time job to fill the void right now inbetween semesters, just tryin to get some extra cash to buy some bud and do stuff with friends and save up for a new car to get from A to B.

So if this guy doesn't hire me, I'll just say fuck him and get one of the many other available jobs out there... this one seemed easy though seeing as how it was a part time job at a fitness and youth center making smoothies for kids and bored parents.
lol

 

[Guest]

yeah dude...
he probably found someone else

i find getting a job is like dealing with girls...
its like, if ur rejected... they will kinda flutter around and say yeah i'm busy... yeah um...just a few more days....haven't talked to the boss...

yeah my friends want to hang out that day...yeah i've been realy busy...

see what i mean... he probably is either waiting for more applicants, or is really banking on someone he really clicked with. i hear u...its an easy job...but probably others applied.

i don't know i'm trying to figure out the job thing myself. i've decided to screw it partially and start posting ads for servicing i can render myself...see how this works. g'lduck man

 

[TrustNoOne]

feyd, are you serious? man you can't write e-mails like that to potential bosses.
i can guarantee on my dead grandmothers grave that 10 out of 10 managers would have circular filed your file after reading that e-mail.
i think you might have skipped brown-noseing101.
was a funny read though. you spoke from the heart. try being a lil less honest, you'll go further, easier.

 

[NOKUY]

there used to be a thread that ALWAYS came up on here and OG about ""perfect" stoner jobs"

"golf course maint." was alway VERY high on that list

...just a thought

 

[Guest]

i'm started to wonder if its a better 'strategy' in life...

to just get a easy job and be stoned during it...

then to get a harder job where you have to be 'sober'

lol

same with life. be stoned/happy and learn to live with less...
then always be unhappy/sober/stressed and have more materialist things from working harder

 

[Feyd]

Meh it's my philosophy in life to keep it real no matter what. Being honest and loyal goes farther than kissing ass and being a fucking fake to get ahead. I might not get this job, but frankly if the guy can't do HIS job as an employer why the fuck would I want to work with him anyways...
I thought maybe he'd understand me a little better, he's 23 years old so he's not some old guy who thinks I'm some rude young adult. I'm pretty polite and courteous in person, and I showed him that when I met him.

I had a guy do almost the same thing to me when I applied to this restaurant close by. I was going to be a cook, making cheese steaks and stuff. Had the interview, he liked me, and told me he'd call me. He did, and told me he wanted to meet me at 7pm (wtf) at the restaurant for a 2nd interview, because training for the job started the next day.. (the whole place was having a grand opening in a week or so..)
I was out there in the fucking freezing cold waiting on his ass until 7:45, called him back the next day and he told me he "forgot" and he was going to call me back when he could figure out when he was available next.
So I go to the place to talk to him after a couple days went by and I saw a bunch of people in uniforms training and doing stuff. so I ask him what the deal is and he tells me he lost my application and he can't complete the current part of the hiring process without it. so he hands one too me and tells me to have a good day and I tell him "I'm just gonna fill it out right here, so just hold on a minute"
Fill it out, give it to him, and no call.
The restaurant itself opens up and I walk in there pissed (but I didn't show it)
I ask him why he's jerking me around, that i need a job (which he knew) and that I needed him to tell me what was going on because if he wasn't going to hire me, I could find a place elsewhere. He told me "Yeah sorry buddy, you weren't there for the first day of training so we couldn't hire you, but if you submit an application after january 1st we'll see"
So I said thanks for fucking nothing and walked out.

Do I just give people bad vibes or something?

 

[trouble]

You dont really want to be around snot-nosed kids talking Ritlin & drinking Soda Pops all day anyway. So, yes I would send the prick the E-Mail but I wouldnt be as nice. I would let him know how unprofessional his actions were and maybe he will treat the next person a little better. Then agian some people are born assholes and remain that way their entire lives. But I would send it anyway.

 

[Yummybud]

I don't know dude life sucks, you just have to deal with it somehow. shit doesn't always go your way, life's not fair.

not getting a job isn't really a big deal anyways. Jobs are jobs they come and go. you want the job but once you get hired you're already thinking about quitting the shitty job.

 

[Revegged_Clone]

I don't know dude life sucks, you just have to deal with it somehow. shit doesn't always go your way, life's not fair.

why is it always the losers that say this? we need a new slogan!

but you're perfect as the poster boy!
haha

 

[DickAnubis]

Send the email if you haven't already. I got your back man, you SHOULD always shoot straight. You definitely will NOT get this job, but do you really want to work with someone who doesn't have the decency to call and let you know what's up/

A Job is an equal exchange of services for money. No begging bowl required!

Good for you.

Don't piss in a cup either!

PEACE DA

 

[7ate9]

there used to be a thread that ALWAYS came up on here and OG about ""perfect" stoner jobs"

"golf course maint." was alway VERY high on that list

...just a thought

IDK about that... I worked at a plant nursery this summer and it was hell!!! I had to wake up early and work a 10 hour day in 90+ degree heat! Can you imagine pulling weeds in a place just covered with weeds that will constantly be coming every few days, and in between those days watering plants? May seem real chill but after 2 hours you just lose your mind and start doing math of how much time you have left before you get home...

I don't like jobs where you have to pretend to do work to make the day go by =/

 

[teddybud]

i'm started to wonder if its a better 'strategy' in life...

to just get a easy job and be stoned during it...

then to get a harder job where you have to be 'sober'

lol

same with life. be stoned/happy and learn to live with less...
then always be unhappy/sober/stressed and have more materialist things from working harder

uhmm..... my job is quite hard... and I do it stoned all day and we are very respected in our area... being stoned isn't an excuse to not work harder

 

[7ate9]

uhmm..... my job is quite hard... and I do it stoned all day and we are very respected in our area... being stoned isn't an excuse to not work harder

Very true! I like to be active when I smoke or else I will get couch locked =/

 

[Guest]

teddybud, i hear you. hmmm what i meant... is finding a job where you CAN be stoned... neways yea...

yummys advice is good. life can suck! just gotta deal with it sometimes.

 

[Feyd]

Well there goes that job. He e-mailed me back instead of calling me.

Dear Cory,
Im very sorry I havent been able to speak with you yet. The interview process takes a long time with the YMCA. I understand you have been trying to get in touch with me, but I am in the process of a new menu rollout and directing a project that takes a great deal of time and effort on my part. The phone calls were appropriate, the email was not. I am not "jerking you around" as you put it. To be "jerked around" you have to be promised something, and I never promised or even offered you a job. You went through step one of four, and sometimes it takes time. If you do not have the time to wait, you are more than welcome to withdraw your your application from the running. (The competition is very stiff.) I will be in touch with you in the following week.
Thank you for your time,
Robert xxxxxx
YMCA

And this was my response

Hi Rob thank you for taking the time to e-mail me back, I appreciate it a great deal. I understand that you have duties that take greater priority than calling back each prospective employee one at a time. I did not expect for you to call me back the next day after the interview. I waited until Friday of that week to reach you. I was given a specific date when I would get a response. I would call that a commitment or a pledge on your part. You are correct in saying that you did not "promise or even offer" me a job. However you did promise to call me. You didn't, and you also didn't return some of my phone calls. I call that being jerked around. I apologize if I am coming off as discourteous or blunt. I understand that some jobs will hire you on the spot and others have a more involved system of hiring, and that some will take more time. I am willing to devote time and patience to getting a job, if my employer is willing to keep me adequately updated on the situation. Regardless, I would like to politely withdraw my application. Thank you for the opportunity (no matter how small) and your patience.

Good luck with all of your future endeavors.
Cory xxxxxxxx

Seriously, if step 1 of 4 takes 1 or 2 weeks, I don't think I want to wait for the whole fucking process. I need a job relatively soon, ie. before Christmas.

Oh well.

 

[Pops]

Feyd, the vast majority of people who do the hiring for jobs like this are not rocket scientists, and most have no idea what they are doing. If they really had any intelligence or job skills, they would have a much better job than the one they have. Most are not looking for competent workers, they are looking for people they can boss around who are asskissers. They are not looking for workers, but rather folks further down the food chain who can build their ego,so that they feel important and can forget that they,themselves, have a shit job. It is a personality contest and you didn't win. Keep on looking. There is a job out there for you somewhere,but it will be frustrating to find it. That is the nature of the game.

 

[7ate9]

You also have to remember your are applying for jobs that require no previous experience, so instead of concentrating on one place, just hit up a ton of places that way you wont feel bad when you get turned down. This time of the year is perfect because college students are all leaving their jobs so you should be able to pick up some kind of job soon.

 

[Guest]

well you just call them its that simple

Oh and that email was very adversarial, in my opinion. haha take it as a lesson but you're not gonna get that job.

Next time just try *calling* or emailing if you must and re-iterate your desire for the job etc