Why are nutes so costly?

[calstar]

Anyone know what the actual manufacturing costs are of the various nutes? How about marketing, packaging, distribution? Do they all have about the same profit margins? IMO it seems the big manufacturers must be making a boatload of $ as none of it is cheap. Just saying....

Medical grow in compliance with CA prop 215 and sb 420

 

[jimmy.carlyle]

Yes. There is a high profit margin for mixing nutes. Whether or not the time you save by purchasing them instead of mixing your own (if you are going organic) is worth more than the money you spend is up to you and your situation.

 

[Nicoli]

As Joe Dirt would say...
Well, huh, might as, might as well ask why is a tree good? Why is the sunset good? Why are boobs good? Man, nutrients, ya stick 'em in reservoirs, you drop 'em in jugs, shove 'em up cannabis plants asses.

 

[Phedrosbenny]

Because people selling them are dickheads.

 

[FreezerBoy]

$60 of nutes will last me for years and years. An oz of weed is $400 and up, the nutes to grow it, about $1.50. Sounds damn cheap to me.

 

[lowrydergrower]

Yea there are some really reasonable priced nutes out there they are not too pricey.

 

[bonjourbonjour]

Prices of nutes are reasonable in my area, but the best thing to do is buy large bottles to save money and keep your fertilizer in a cool dark place like a fridge.

 

[ibjamming]

$60 of nutes will last me for years and years. An oz of weed is $400 and up, the nutes to grow it, about $1.50. Sounds damn cheap to me.

I agree...if you've got the money...take the peace of mind and buy a specialty mix. If you're strapped for cash...the cheap stuff will work just fine.

For the size of my grows...just a few plants at a time, a bottle or two of "high quality" nutes lasts me a couple of years.

It all depends on your particular situation.

 

[foomar]

Recently weighed an exact litre of a pK booster and it came to 1014.50 grammes on a lab scale.

Thats about three teaspoons in a litre , buy chempak dry nuts or the equivalent and make your own for thirty pence a litre instead of a tenner , similar costs for all nuts and at least one defunct supplier was simply adding standard chempack nutes to water and laughing all the way to the bank.

Still useing a tub of Phostrogen from around 1965 , dry nutes have a shelf life of forever if kept dry , some wet nutes definately go off and sometimes fast.

The cost is mainly packaging , advertising , transport costs and a 100%+ markup down the line.

Seen current trade catalogue from a major UK distributor and the retail markup , as sold locally from this source , is a minimum of 100% on consumables including nutes , worth a haggle and a discount for sure.

 

[dagnabit]

because the market will bear the price.

 

[fishing time]

I just bought Peter's blossom 10-30-20 with micronutes for flower. It cost 5.99 for 230 grams... I'll probably never use it all. I'm sure the $50+ dollar stuff is better but unless it gets me 50% bigger yields... I'm not buying it.

 

[old toby]

foomars right,,dry nutes are way cheaper. i can add water!!!!

 

[loki3xb]

I found that mixing your own and using mostly dry nutes does keep the cost WAY down.

 

[FreezerBoy]

foomars right,,dry nutes are way cheaper. i can add water!!!!

Yeah but having to crush hydrogen and oxygen molecules together by hand is a PITA

 

[tokinafaty420]

GH flora isn't expensive. Works great for thousands of people growing pot.

 

[foomar]

This seems to be the horticultural version of calmag , it costs £6.99 for a 750 gramme box , cheaper by the tonne.
This company pretty much invented and supported commercial hydroponics in the UK and know exactly what they are doing and have been around for decades.

Just four products cover our actual needs and for less than £30 you are set for the next twenty years for a personal grow room , play with all the expensive hyped boosters and enhancers to satisfy your curiosity if funds allow but you cant go wrong based on these industry standard products.

Even an ounce of extra bud from a products use is obviously a no brainer if you are selling it , supriseingly i dont know any who do , and expensive nutes are pointless if you grow what you need rather than the most you can , the trailing edge of technology suits me fine.

Chempak Calcium Multi Action Fertiliser

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Specially formulated plant food which provides a rapid uptake of calcium and nitrogen, Chempak Calcium offers multipurpose action for improved growth, higher yields and healthy plants and can be used for fruit, vegetables, tomatoes, bedding plants etc.

Calcium is an important plant food required by all plants in moderate quantities. A deficiency has serious effects on plant growth.

Chempak Calcium provides both water soluble nitrogen and calcium which are essential elements for plants. This unique property has advantages not found in other fertiliser, making it one of the most valuable nutritional products on the market today.


HOW & WHERE TO USE

Early starter for seedlings, bedding and pot plants: Use once pricked out and potted up as needed to boost growth. Liquid feed at 1 teaspoonful (5g) to 5 litres of water.

Apples: 50g to 5 litres of water (add a few drops of detergent or Chempak wetting agent). Spray from early June at three week intervals until three weeks before harvest.

Tomatoes: 25g to 10 litres of water. Use 1 litre per plant, weekly. Remove fruit affected by Blossom End Rot. Never allow plants to dry out..

Fruit Trees: Two applications each of 25g/sq. metre (1oz/sq. yd) under the drip line area, one in April, one in June.

Hydroponics: Chempak Calcium being fully soluble is indispensable for crops grown hydroponically, in rockwool or N.F.T. Use as directed in hydroponic nutrient instructions.

 

[reckon]

Anyone know what the actual manufacturing costs are of the various nutes? How about marketing, packaging, distribution? Do they all have about the same profit margins? IMO it seems the big manufacturers must be making a boatload of $ as none of it is cheap. Just saying....

Medical grow in compliance with CA prop 215 and sb 420

because growers THINK they need them, and some idiot payed that much one time, so now they all overcharge you.

they also KNOW you aren't growing basil and tomatoes, so they feel they can rip you off because your growing a $500 plant, and most of their "customers" are NOT doing this legally.

 

[calstar]

I was just wondering, thanks for the responses. I think its probably more a factor of "what the market will bear" rather than "you get what you pay" for but just my opinion.

 

[rick shaw]

In marketing it is called the Italian shoe syndrome,price something much higher then reasonably expected.Many of these are snake oil.Rockwool conditioner=PHed water,Carbohydrate boosters=sugar,wetting agents that lower the surface tension of water making it wetter=soap.AN is the P.T.Barnum of the 21st century.

 

[calstar]

I think rick shaw nailed it with his call regarding AN = P.T. Barnum(famous saying "there's a sucker born every minute"). I'm new to the current world of nutes and additives but AN has to be at the top of the hype scale. I'd been seeing the slick magazine "Rose Bud" in some of the local hydro stores and picked one up(free) when the guy said "take one, we have way too many". When I started reading it it immediately became apparent this was one big add published by AN. Some of the copy in the adds is laughable, such as (paraphrased) - "the only problem you'll have with our products is so many people asking you how grew such great plants". Obviously this whole mag is paid for by the folks buying their products. I have nothing personal against AN, haven't used their products, but from a marketing perspective they seem happy to spend freely and therefore pass that cost on to the consumer. There may be others that market on this scale but in my limited experience I haven't seen them.