Why are my clones flowering ???

[mriko]

Greetings & love everyone !

Well, I'm not really new at growing, but when it comes to cloning, it's a whole different story.
I have at least aquired the necessary material to keep clones and mother plant, and so did I took some cuts from my favourite plants, for further grow & work.

They are kept under 72w neons, with 18/6 cycle and they all are starting to show some flowers. I just don't get it...

The only explanation to me would be that since they are cuttings taken from outdoor plants, they just don't care about what light regime I give them, and they just keep doing their thing according to the rules set by Mother Nature Herself and end up flowering at some point.

I guess I'll have to flower them, and do my best to reveg them afterward. Unless there's another explanation for their behavior which can be corrected quickly ?

Anyone any insight ?

Irie !

 

[DTFuqua]

Try 24 hours of light for awhile

 

[Buddy Holly]

are they possibly rootbound? some clones will trigger quickly in that scenario. 18/6 should be enough light to keep them in veg provided they dont have a genetic predisposition to autoflower.

 

[Storm Shadow]

Blackberry Kush does the same thing under 18/6 when it gets rootbound...

24 hours of light should solve the problem

 

[dansbuds]

Yup .... some good advice here so far . up pot them into bigger pots & put them in 24 hrs of light . they might go through a reveg & if they do they'll start throwing a few dark green single leaves .... if that happens don't freak out its normal . after a week or so of reveg they'll start growing normally again & you'll be fine . good luck dude

 

[DevilWeedSeeds]

Switch over to the 24 and see what they do, I have seen strains that will flower with 16 hours of light. See if they revert back to veg.

 

[mriko]

Thanks everyone for the insights. I hav shifted them to 24/0 yesterday, wait & see.

None of the plants are rootbound though, but these are homeworks for outdoor, and for most they declare sex by late May if planted around April 20 (not auto flowering), the "slowest" showing up before June 21st. Let's hope the permanent light will put them back to plain growth...

Irie !

 

[Weird]

i would not look to the light regime as a culprit

when i have certain strains flower when root bound (almost like an autoflower and it often happens when i let a small plant remain rootbound) i simply feed them a bit of nitrogen if i really dont want to transplant yet

 

[High Country]

Don't worry about it. I take clones off plants 2 weeks into 12/12 and they do just fine.

 

[mriko]

Thanks weird & High country.

Indeed, I have no such problem with cuttings from indoor plants. Only with outdoor plants.
Plants are not rootbound either, but my watering has been quite light actually, probably even too light. Could that be one factor inducing unwanted flowering ?

Irie !

 

[High Country]

Don't complicate it. They will be right.

It's just a plant.

 

[Whipit]

No intention to Hijack this thread. I plan to reveg my first plant and have been concerned.

Don't complicate it. They will be right.

It's just a plant.

HC, I read and read your grows before I started. You kicked in with help when I got going. I can't thank you enough and have great respect for your abilities.

I know that you have an interest in horticulture, in general. I believe that you have a ton of training and knowledge. I grow orchids and have outdoor gardens. I was weeding my grandfather's garden as soon as they could trust me to not pull out the vegetables.

In my first year, I couldn't have agreed more - "just a plant". Weed - really! I had accidentally stumbled on two high potency, high yield, fast flowering sativas. My second year set me back to where I expected to be in the beginning. Seeds wouldn't take. Clones wouldn't take. I got fungus gnats and killed them. New varieties that would take, ended up with shitty yields and quality. Now, in my third year, I have learned a ton. I still struggle at times, but I didn't learn much at all when everything was growing like a jungle.

There are hundreds of ways to crack seeds, clone, start plants, veg plants, flower plants, harvest, cure . . . Some of them just don't work. Some only work sometimes. With everything that you have learned about this plant, have you ever condensed the basics? I just cracked 10 out of 10 seeds (KO Kush F4) and out of the eight that set their first leaves, none have grown over 1/4" in two weeks. I don't know what I did wrong.

I found out that even if you keep a healthy mother plant for several months, she might not want to clone very easily and that I can get some phenotypes to clone out of a batch of seeds, but others are difficult.

Some varieties are more fit to soil, while others thrive in hydro. Temperature matters more to some than others. There really doesn't seem to be a "one size fits all" method from beginning to end.

It looks like I may have to reveg my first plant if I didn't get a good clone. This thread makes me feel better about it, but even if it is just a plant, if it dies I'm buying 10 more seeds and starting over.

Maybe you have it written and I haven't seen it. Maybe someone else has. I'd love to see a good, short "It's just a plant" sticky from a pro! "How to get eight plants out of your next good pack of seeds", "How to clone any plant and get nearly 80% success every time" . . . short paragraphs.

The vast amount of information on this plant defies the thought that it is simple to grow, but it can be. Nutrients should be easy, but they aren't. pH has billions of threads, but you don't even watch it. There are volumes on every topic. I could only try everything if I had a ton of money and a ton of time. I have tried the "clone this way and it works" a bunch of times. I adapted a method that works fairly well.

Is the key to find a few strains and system that work for you and then screw around? Or, should I be able to buy that $150.00 pack of ten seeds and know that I'm going to get a great crop? If so, I have somehow made this much too difficult.

 

[mriko]

Moan... THey keep flowering no matter what... Been on 24/0 since I posted here, but it hadn't change anything.
I guess I'm gonna get them to 12/12 with hope I can reveg some after harvest, or can put my hand of whatever i need to make feminized seeds. Still better than nothing...

Irie !

 

[BasementGrower]

neons? really ? use some real lights and u shouoldnt have this problem

 

[SeaMaiden]

Moan... THey keep flowering no matter what... Been on 24/0 since I posted here, but it hadn't change anything.
I guess I'm gonna get them to 12/12 with hope I can reveg some after harvest, or can put my hand of whatever i need to make feminized seeds. Still better than nothing...

Irie !

Then I'm willing to bet they're autoflowers. I got my very first autoflower this year, some beans gifted to me from a friend's good bagseed, completely unknown origins. The seedling was all of 4" tall and it started flowering. Grew one tiny little marble of a bud, then died.

 

[mriko]

no, they're not auto-flower. Although most declare sex between late may and late june (when started late april), they don't start to flower right away and finish between mid-sept and mid-oct.

These are all strains that I have made or re-worked myself, so as to get them done early enough at 50°N, such as Mex. sativa, Kali Mist, Manga Rosa, Surprise and to reach that goal I infused these with genetics from a quite early Royal Dane male and he's probably the reason why clones flower even under 24/0. THough... it seems the P-Kali Mist is keeping at plain growing, crossing fingers...

Surprises have been shifted to 12/12, and the P-Mex should follow soon. I hope I'll be able to reveg them, do more cuttings and feminize all this because it would be real sad to loose them. P-Manga Rosa is back to 20/0 (hmm, what is better for reveg ? 18/6 or 24/0 ?)

Irie !