Whole plant Hash harvesting.

[mack 10]

So I've been wondering about this for some time and now it's time
To dive in and find out, what i want to know is how much resin is actually on the plant. Or really how much hash can be made from said plants.

I have just harvested in a couple of different ways,

All plants had shade leaf/ no resin leaf removed.

Then some where line hung to dry and the rest fresh frozen.
Some trimmed some not. The trim is frozen too.


The line dryed will be dry sifted and rosined.

The fresh frozen will be either cold water washed or sifted/rosined in some fashion.

Anyone got any experience or ideas post up.

 

[Piff Rhys Jones]

I dream of the days of being able to turn entire harvests into hash!

You'd be best off making bubble out of the fresh frozen, then if you're not happy with that turning the bubble into rosin. Fresh frozen bubble is pretty damn good though!

Don't think you'll have much luck sifting fresh frozen unless it's been in the freezer ages by which time it's dehydrated. Someone said they put their whole harvest in the freezer fresh, came back a few months later and bud was smokeable straight out the freezer. Apparently!

Peace

 

[purple_man]

high fambz!

nice idea, as stated above the fresh frozen for rosin or bubble or dry ice sieving and then rosin.. the rest for dry sift, clean it up or make rosin if no good results...

the yields should be 10% - 20% i guess...

blesss
ps.: let us know how it went down, happy hasjing

 

[mack 10]

Thanks guys. It's going to be a fun project but also
It should show the most efficient way to grow resin.
Big plants, small plants. Young or old? We shall see...

 

[Illuminate]

probably better to have higher numbers with smaller plants, so that processing isnt an issue. Id imagine that strain dependant/mono crop will decide a bit.. but my main sum to work by would be the amounts i could dry/run a time and work to that. for me i could run a 500g bubble fresh frozen, and dry more to tumble but that would take ages, with only my 4 screen set. with a tumble now and more drying space, maybe a air conned room to store/work, could knock out another 500g i quick time. For rosin id get he dnail press, and mash up the low quality stuff in that.

Good luck!! My 2p.

 

[mack 10]

So we begin. The buds I hung to dry are crispy and ready for sift.
They where broken up over 2 screens Dry Sift Wizard style.
Anything left on top of the first screen gets static tech, to pull out
The headies. Anything left gets bubbled.

Also started wet washing. Fresh frozen buds straight from the freezer
To bucket.

Was a bit tricky trying to estimate the weight of the fresh frozen material
As Iforgot to weigh it.

The first batch seems about right yield wise ( to the eye)

 

[hayday]

Hey Mack,how do you process the bud? Crumbled,whole or chopped?
Just curious as I have a mess of bud to make bubble and don't want to lose a bunch of heads.

 

[mack 10]

For fresh frozen ?
Yeah I'd just take it out of the freezer, I keep it in giant tub that keeps it from icing up.
And either break it apart over screens (150u plus)
Or over the bucket itself.
I snap off each individual bud and drop it in, the mix action will break it down smaller as you mix.
You can always do a second run if you missed any resin.

 

[heady blunts]

cool project mack.



i think you can dry sift fresh frozen you just need to be in sub zero temps

i've considered sneaking into restaurant kitchens to use the walk in freezers at night hehehe.

i love fresh frozen bubble.

seems like you've got it all planned out

 

[mack 10]

Yo heady!
Yeah I did make some fresh frozen sift.
Worked out OK. If you don't have a walk in freezer
You have to work real fast.

Just depends on what material I have to which way I process.

 

[heady blunts]

i'm obsessed with the idea of this freeze shatter technique that i heard about from a guest on an old ADS podcast.

he was selling a product but the idea behind it was so interesting i keep thinking about it and it's been like a year since i listened to the episode.

it uses dried and cured whole plants and sub zero temperatures. basically you cut and hang your whole plant in a mesh bag with a work screen size lets say 250u and a very tight screen like 25u over that.

you let the whole thing dry and cure, then you beat the shit out of it with a stick while standing in a -14*F environment. keep in mind the guy who was sharing the technique lives in nepal, but it could reasonably be accomplished with access to a walk in freezer.

apparently at that temperature the resin heads become so hard that they are basically like tiny steel ball bearings. the plant material on the other hand becomes incredibly brittle, and when you beat it it pulverizes down to an extremely fine dust (i saw this when i tried dry ice hash---those impossibly tiny pieces of contaminant), but won't stick to the resin heads since they are so cold and hard.

all the resin heads get caught in the 25u bag, but the contaminant dust is so small that it all falls through, and you're left with a bag of mixed spectrum pure heads.

plus he claimed since you're catching nearly every trichome on the plant, the yields of full melt bubble are unparalleled.

i've never tried this but i'm dying to recreate the conditions and do some experimenting. apparently rough sift can be cleaned up this way too.

thought it could be of interest

 

[944s2]

hey mack,,
best of luck with this endeavor,,,
interesting stuff,,,,
right up your street though,,,,
nice one!,,,,,s2

 

[EastCoast710]

i'm obsessed with the idea of this freeze shatter technique that i heard about from a guest on an old ADS podcast.

he was selling a product but the idea behind it was so interesting i keep thinking about it and it's been like a year since i listened to the episode.

it uses dried and cured whole plants and sub zero temperatures. basically you cut and hang your whole plant in a mesh bag with a work screen size lets say 250u and a very tight screen like 25u over that.

you let the whole thing dry and cure, then you beat the shit out of it with a stick while standing in a -14*F environment. keep in mind the guy who was sharing the technique lives in nepal, but it could reasonably be accomplished with access to a walk in freezer.

apparently at that temperature the resin heads become so hard that they are basically like tiny steel ball bearings. the plant material on the other hand becomes incredibly brittle, and when you beat it it pulverizes down to an extremely fine dust (i saw this when i tried dry ice hash---those impossibly tiny pieces of contaminant), but won't stick to the resin heads since they are so cold and hard.

all the resin heads get caught in the 25u bag, but the contaminant dust is so small that it all falls through, and you're left with a bag of mixed spectrum pure heads.

plus he claimed since you're catching nearly every trichome on the plant, the yields of full melt bubble are unparalleled.

i've never tried this but i'm dying to recreate the conditions and do some experimenting. apparently rough sift can be cleaned up this way too.

thought it could be of interest

dry ice hash without all the bullshit lol.

 

[Chrondiddle O]

Fresh frozen is a fad,and would never have existed unless cannabis was made legal in the US,If you want a product with no shelf-life whatsoever that will almost certainly turn waxy then go fr it.There's a reason man has dried cannabis before sifting throughout history...So I would drysift then bubble the dried/cured material.

Edited to add,with regards the post above,any technique which pulverises the plant matter is undesirable and will end up with contaminated heads.
Frenchy cannolis latest video on bubblehash is worth a watch,he explains the how and why much better than most out there have.

 

[heady blunts]

dry ice hash without all the bullshit lol.

exactly!

but it has some significant differences too.

dry ice hash is shitty IME cause there's no way to avoid contamination and it's impossible to clean because the contaminant pieces seem to stick to the heads.

i've read that if you look at the resin glands under magnification after the dry ice process they are damaged---the cuticles are ruptured with shard like pieces that hold onto debris.

i just googled dry ice and its temperature is -110*F.

perhaps properly drying and curing the resin heads while still on the plant, then gently bringing it down to temp might make the difference vs. the extremely rapid and much colder dry ice process.


mack---

what's the deal with the 2 screen method? i've watched bubbleman's demo video but i haven't had a chance to try it myself. is what falls through truely 99% full melt or does it need to be cleaned up a bit more?

 

[mack 10]

Nice whole plant method @ heady.
2 screen tech; what falls through is straight melt.
No cleaning needed.
If you flick the screen for 2nd quality, yeah that would need cleaning.
But I leave as is, you could make some insane Rosin or static tech with it.