Where should I start?

[MountainBudz]

...After a long year and a half of no toking [zero cannabis use], just wondering where I should start as my grow is halfway done as I speak.

I quit due to a few different reasons, anxiety and paranoia being the most prominent... I honestly think it was due to the lifestyle I was living at the time and the stresses I was going through... As odd as it may sound, I am pretty sure the more [Indica Dom] hybrids made it worse for me than the sativas... Some would disagree, but sativa would get me overly anxious at times as well...

My choices on which strain I choose to [experiment with] first are far and many... Don't know how its going to effect me either. I miss smoking so much because at one time it was part of who I was and made everything better for me as well... Since I quit, a lot of new illnesses and diagnosis have emerged out of no where and I hurt much worse nowadays also... I am currently prescribed opioid's as well and have been taking them as prescribed (not abusing them) for over a year as well... My doc does not or for [better words] "has not" drug tested me yet the entire time I have been Rx'd to them, although I have had a couple of pill counts...

I wan't off the opiates... When I run out or try a day without them I just can't handle the pain and withdrawals kick in immediately... I don't think it is the "dosage" so to speak that I am dependent on so much as the "steady consistency" that is the problem. What I am trying to say is that I am not an "abuser addict" I do take as prescribed very rarely a bit more or an extra throughout the day so to speak (when my back is REALLY hurting), whereas I know people who are fiends and are deeply hooked on them and they have to have [for example 6 or 7 hydro or percocet 10's at one dosage to "feel anything"] I on the other hand feel it very well and it works very well at my prescribed dosage (10mg oxycodone 3 times a day), I have never really built a 'tolerance to my meds... But have not missed a day taking them in over a year, except for maybe a day or two here and there...

That being said, it sucks to be dependent on opiates, I wan't to be able to smoke again to control my pain and other underlying problems... A good sativa to me resembles an opiate much more than an indica which most people will claim that indica is best for opiate withdrawal or effect... Not to me... I don't like couch lock and my medication does not give me the couch lock (morphine type feel) that most get from opiates... It gives me a really upbeat type feel so to speak... Very energized yet a calm clarity, very euphoric and uplifting. My first dose during the day, yes, it's like speed, I can get up and clean and work all day... That tingling, clear euphoria is where its at... [Yes I do use this medication for the reason I am prescribed, chronic pain, but I can't help not to feel the "euphoric" effects of the medication either...

Now that you know the situation, here is the solutions... "the strains I will have available...

C99
Blue Dream
Kali Mist
Nebula
LSD
Someone's Jack F8
Someone's Sugar Punch
Power Plant (not PPP)
SSSDH
ECSDH
Zamaldelica
and finally.... Golden Tiger

But some of these strains will take much longer, the one's I see finishing first are C99, Blue Dream and Sugar Punch...

Hope y'all got some good info and warm thoughts for me on this one!

Mbz....

 

[MountainBudz]

Ahhh hell, knew I would forget one... Herijuana will be on that list and "soon to finish" well, but remember what I said about indica dominant hybrids... Maybe that one would be good for night time use, before bed, as I suffer bad insomnia as well... That's why I got it in the first place.

 

[floralheart]

You're a certified weirdo. All of those in the original list are sure to give me the condition you want to avoid. Under other circumstances I'd say go straight Kush in different varieties, because that's what works for me to cure the condition you have. But everybody's different, good luck with it.

 

[floralheart]

BOG strains worked well for me and stored long better than most others. You've got me stumped. Blue Moon Rocks, the strawberry one, all good, but probably the opposite to you.

 

[MountainBudz]

Something else I would like to note is, reading smoke reports and reviews on leafly, I see a lot of people that wrote in on describing "Durban Poison" with opiate like effects "literally saying that its good for people whom like or use opiates"... I have seen similar posts about the DP Power Plant as well which from what I gather is almost identical to durban poison (same effect, flowering time, both pure landrace sativa's) only most people report the Power Plant being much more potent... With that being said, I have been thinking maybe I should start with the PP??

 

[I wood]

Medibles are what helped me be done with Vicodin about 15 years ago. For me they seemed to push the pain forward, never really helping much more than an hour or two. 10-20 mgs oil works for six hours or longer depending on strain and situation.
Topical balm made with cbd and thc in a 1:1 ratio also improved thequality of my life significantly.
I dislike pills and the companies that make them, I will help you leave them behind in any way that I can.

 

[MountainBudz]

You're a certified weirdo. All of those in the original list are sure to give me the condition you want to avoid. Under other circumstances I'd say go straight Kush in different varieties, because that's what works for me to cure the condition you have. But everybody's different, good luck with it.

Haha! Have heard that more than once my friend...

I have tried some seed grown kush before, power kush and critical kush which neither relates to the kushes that you speak of more than likely...

I have tried a few landrace kushes from Hindu Kush to landrace afghanis, all do have a good effect but not really what i'm looking for...

The two strains I can "faintly" remember in the past giving the effect i'm after was a certain pheno of LSD that I grew out, but unfortunately that pheno was not found this time around I can tell by the bud structure and smells of my current ones, felt just like opiods at moderation... Then one time I ran across some fire Sour Diesel that gave me that feeling as well... Being in a non med/ non legal state, its hard to obtain true cuts and edibles unless finding them through your own selection and making them...

 

[MountainBudz]

Medibles are what helped me be done with Vicodin about 15 years ago. For me they seemed to push the pain forward, never really helping much more than an hour or two. 10-20 mgs oil works for six hours or longer depending on strain and situation.
Topical balm made with cbd and thc in a 1:1 ratio also improved thequality of my life significantly.
I dislike pills and the companies that make them, I will help you leave them behind in any way that I can.

I tried edibles one time in my life, a long long time ago [when I was just a teen] and had the worse experience ever in my life, it was like LSD but more edgy... I think that very trip I had from eating raw dried buds was what has put the anxiousness in my high and stone from that point forward lol...

I've never tried actual true edibles... Just ate some bud one time... hahaha

 

[MountainBudz]

Floralheart, heavy indica (some not all) give me a feeling like i'm being held down and make me very dizzy for some reason... It feels like i'm in the beginning stages of respiratory depression and it is just not a "fun" or "euphoric" feeling at all... I have had a few indicas here and there that were more mellow and gave me a tingly energetic feel but most make me sit and stare at shit and feel stupid lol...

 

[stoned-trout]

when I used to pump out a lot of c99 some peeps reported anxiety and paranoia from it....fwiw....yeehaw...me I loved it,, an that shit bought me a new car cash$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

 

[floralheart]

Floralheart, heavy indica (some not all) give me a feeling like i'm being held down and make me very dizzy for some reason... It feels like i'm in the beginning stages of respiratory depression and it is just not a "fun" or "euphoric" feeling at all... I have had a few indicas here and there that were more mellow and gave me a tingly energetic feel but most make me sit and stare at shit and feel stupid lol...

The idea of marriage used to give me that same feeling

 

[floralheart]

when I used to pump out a lot of c99 some peeps reported anxiety and paranoia from it....fwiw....yeehaw...me I loved it,, an that shit bought me a new car cash$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

straight C99 makes me cranky and mad feeling, agitated. C99 in things is awesome.

 

[420somewhere]

Where should you start?

Where should you start?

...After a long year and a half of no toking [zero cannabis use], just wondering where I should start as my grow is halfway done as I speak?

Mbz....

First you have a very interesting issue.

I would start with a Low Dose edible before going to bed. So you don't feel the euphoric effects and see how it goes. Once you find a dosage that suits you. You can then start reducing your Opiate intake a little at a time if that is your goal.

Good Luck

P.S. I take 60mg Cookies, you may want to start with 5 or 10mg edibles

 

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Highly recommended.