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When to give full strength ferts?
- Thread starter Mibri
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Seedlings that small I probably would feed at every watering 75 n.
So about 1/3 strength. 5 grow, 3.3 micro, 1.7 bloom per gallon of water.
Increase to 100 n after a few waterings at 75 n. Then at maybe 6" height increase to 150 n. You should probably not need full strength for good growth but if you use 211 n watch for burning.
Always get 20% of fert water you apply to come out the bottom through the drain holes to prevent excess salt buildup. You want runoff.
Be sure to adjust ph to about 6 after mixing for best results.
So about 1/3 strength. 5 grow, 3.3 micro, 1.7 bloom per gallon of water.
Increase to 100 n after a few waterings at 75 n. Then at maybe 6" height increase to 150 n. You should probably not need full strength for good growth but if you use 211 n watch for burning.
Always get 20% of fert water you apply to come out the bottom through the drain holes to prevent excess salt buildup. You want runoff.
Be sure to adjust ph to about 6 after mixing for best results.
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Get some Willard Water.
http://www.blackhills.com/heartoftheearth/willard/willard.htm
about one ounce to a gallon is perfect...
http://www.blackhills.com/heartoftheearth/willard/willard.htm
about one ounce to a gallon is perfect...
Sprout, what do you think about the theory that seedlings should be ferted with the bloom formula instead of the veg formula because I've read that a higher P will stimulate root growth.
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inflorescence said:
higher P will, but not necessarily K, which is a flower recipe.
edit: shoots, roots, fruits (N,P,K). thats just a basic look at NPK, they do many things. for example, a higher k than u would think in veg will keep nodes nice n tight. without k, nodes space far apart.
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SouthernSmoker
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Why are you feeding them anything !!!
sprouts that small are still in the development stages and dont have feeder roots developed yet . Just keep them watered until they develop a second set of true leaves then you can feed them ferts.
A seed has everything it needs when warm and moist and stores enough resources to get it to sprout and lay down a root sructure and produce true leaves to start photosythesis (Sp) Then it will look for other food sources to feed its needs .
sprouts that small are still in the development stages and dont have feeder roots developed yet . Just keep them watered until they develop a second set of true leaves then you can feed them ferts.
A seed has everything it needs when warm and moist and stores enough resources to get it to sprout and lay down a root sructure and produce true leaves to start photosythesis (Sp) Then it will look for other food sources to feed its needs .
420KushMaster
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SouthernSmoker said:Why are you feeding them anything !!!
sprouts that small are still in the development stages and dont have feeder roots developed yet .A seed has everything it needs when warm and moist and stores enough resources to get it to sprout and lay down a root sructure and produce true leaves to start photosythesis (Sp) Then it will look for other food sources to feed its needs .
gotta love mother nature
meduser180056
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inflorescence said:
Personally I only feed bloom formula even in veg. I've found that feeding the excess nitrogen that veg formulas have causes plants to be more one main cola style, they are less bushy, and the nodes stretch way more cuz of all the N. With the Bloom ferts I shoot for a steady 100 nitrogen throughout the entire grow and I never see N deficiency until I start the flush.
With almost every strain I've grown with this method you can barely even tell which cola is the main one because they become so bushy instead of stretching out. Some strains bush more than others of course, but I've found that this method turns even tall lanky strains bushier.
I think the plant does focus more energy on it's roots when you feed the bloom and I think the bushiness of them reflects this. They are more stout and less lanky if you know what I mean. You have to make sure your giving at least 100 nitrogen though otherwise you'll have yellowing.
SouthernSmoker said:Why are you feeding them anything !!!
sprouts that small are still in the development stages and dont have feeder roots developed yet . Just keep them watered until they develop a second set of true leaves then you can feed them ferts.
A seed has everything it needs when warm and moist and stores enough resources to get it to sprout and lay down a root sructure and produce true leaves to start photosythesis (Sp) Then it will look for other food sources to feed its needs .
Mibri
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Hmm - only bloom u say. Damn it. it don't have a meter. How much bloom should be used then pr gallon or liter? Am looking forward to hear Sprout's opinion on this. I just am a little sceptical since i find it strange that they make the grow formula if it's not neccessary at all. They could just sell the bloom in double size. I have no idea. It's sounds nice with the more bushy girls u get from the bloom - very. I just know too little about this. I know my plants looked sad just after i put them under the sun. The other day i made some new food 1/2 strength (these are my 36 days old White Widows) and got an airstone in the water (the last food they ate was disgusting, getting bubbles on top) I put them down an drained and so on for like 10 times to flush the nastyness. The day after (today) they looked very much more happy. Was this some kind of salt build up?
Mibri
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I Just regulated my water ph adding sulphuric acid. Made a 10l water wit 25 cl of acid. (could probably be even a bit stronger to ease the use) but this is pretty nice. Had to add about 7cl of this in a 50l reservoir to make it 5,8ish) This 1l bottle of sulphuric acid (battery acid) was 6$ And i will have this bottle for a looong time. For the sceptics i googled it and found that almost any big hydro tomato or lettuce farm uses sulphuric acid for phdown. It's very common used and none toxic. Just be VERY carefull not to get burned handling the concentrate. (the 10l will last for some grows before needing to handle the concentrate again) Thx for the advice
