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When does flower start ?

DOWNLOW

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Quick question, when does flowering actually start. Does it start once you flip the lights 12/12, or does it start once you see the pistols come out ? As it stands I'm 25 days 12/12 and 15 days since I've noticed the pistols.
 
when you usualy have a nice little group of calyx's with pistils sticking up in the air is when i count because thats when it is actualy going to be forming bud....
 

ibjamming

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"Officially" it's when you flip the lights. That's what MOST breeders refer to when stating flowering time. BUT...there are several conditions that will affect total flowering time. It's a general guideline, not and exact date. Within a single strain there could be 8 week and 12 week finishers. It all depends. Don't worry about the length...just watch the trichomes...it's ready when it's ready.
 

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Ok I understand that I'm going to have watch my thricomes for my finishing time, but does that mean every time I do a run with this strain the finishing time is going to be different. So that being said my nutrient solution and schedule is the Rez Recipe, I want to know do I start day 15-23 that contains the kool bloom at 15 days 12/12 or is it 15 days after the pistols start. Even though I already started it at 15 days 12/12. Maybe I'm just making this a bit complicated for myself, and I should have just did the lucas. I hope this is not a dumb or redundant question!
 

ibjamming

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Ok I understand that I'm going to have watch my thricomes for my finishing time, but does that mean every time I do a run with this strain the finishing time is going to be different. So that being said my nutrient solution and schedule is the Rez Recipe, I want to know do I start day 15-23 that contains the kool bloom at 15 days 12/12 or is it 15 days after the pistols start. Even though I already started it at 15 days 12/12. Maybe I'm just making this a bit complicated for myself, and I should have just did the lucas. I hope this is not a dumb or redundant question!

Maybe...probably. That's ONE of the many reasons people make clones...ALL one plant...everything is pretty similar.

Someone else will have to answer the rest...I don't use additives.

Yup...you probably are...making it too complicated.
 

ibjamming

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Thanx ibjamming, i'll be running this strain for a while so I hope to get it down pack.

What most people do is...grow the whole pack, more if you have the room...take a clone from each and label BOTH plants...flower all the plants leaving a GOOD clone of each vegging.

After you have harvested, cured, done whatever you do with your buds...you decide which...if any...you REALLY like and want to keep.

You then go into the room with all the clones and kill...or give away...everything but your "keepers". Those one, two, or even three very special ladies. You take clones of the keepers and keep doing the same thing...over and over. Save a clone and flower...save a clone and flower. You can do it forever.

Good luck hunting...
 

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Hey IC, well I'm surely into flower now and looking alrite if I might say so. It's day 31 of 12/12 and day 23 since I first spotted pistols, and now its on for my next experience, defoiliation, that's right the noob will be defoiling this momma jamma. I've been plucking from the get go and she responds well, don't know if it will make a difference with the final weight but I do know it'll let light and air penetrate the canopy for sure so here's the plant before I defoil, after this post I start the hair cut. Any advice and tips will be appreciated thanx.
 

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Yes as promised I gave her a good trim up man I hope these colas swell up good and fat, I was reading some else's thread I think it was sumdumguy and he said his same exact strain went 10 weeks, so I got 7 weeks to go I can't even wait. I mean this plant was sticky icky already, I hated to cut those fans with the frost b/c I would just love to be able to try some bubble hash or any hash one day, but one day huh. This is just a dream come true right now, the smell is real sweet and tangy likes sweet oranges, the smell is just stuck on my fingers for hours. Such a turn on for me right now, but any how if anyone decides to comment on my progress feel free, here's the after pics.
 

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Here we are, what I've learned about flowering is it begins at 12/12, and I'm at day 36, half way thru and looking damn good I might say, real frosty too. I did the defoiliating thing and scared the shit out of me, but I am fortunate to have such a resilient plant it stall for 2 days the most with its water uptake and after that it started taking off again, gave me just about zero stretch also, and now its just fattening up I hope it doubles it girth. I need a good harvest b/c there might a delay to the start of my next grow due to me moving, but any way.......
 

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Thanx Calitrichs I sure as hell hope so I need a good harvest. Here are the pics.
 

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DOWNLOW

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bad luck

bad luck

well here's my weekly update plant is doing just fine, but I sure as

hell am not. Just found out the landlord has been foreclosed for

over a year the new owner of the house wants me out in two

weeks, what a bummer I'm at week 6 day 39 12/12, with 2 - 4 more

weeks to go and this. I dont know anybody I can trust with this

plant at this time, I'm pissed he says the marshals will be here in

two weeks to evict the entire house, cant have this plant here for

that day hoping I can get another place in time or else its gotta die.

So close to victory and then this, cant catch a break for shit.
 

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qbert

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oh man that sucks, bad timing. See if you can borrow a cargo van or something maybe? Uhaul's a little spendy, but you could put em in something like that for a couple days while you relocate. Better than destroying them.
 

Frozenguy

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Is this in America? I dont think ANYONE can give a tennant less then 30 days to vacate. If you were given notice before and have two weeks left, then thats one thing but as of first notice, you should have 30 days.. Maybe that is just in some states..

At the very least, dont trash it. You could end up making some hash or something because 50 days shouldn't be too bad.
 

High Country

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Yep, in this country you need to be given a LOT more to vacate premises.
 

_Dude

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When you're looking at a strain guide, then flowering time is how long from the day you switch to 12/12 to the "ideal" harvest date. Actual flowering time is the time from the day you switch, to the day you harvest, or the plants die, or whatever. Usually, the first 2-3 weeks of flower are a transition period where the plants are undergoing the chemical and biological changes from veg state to flowering state. People call that "the stretch" because they're still stretching as if in veg.
 

DOWNLOW

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oh man that sucks, bad timing. See if you can borrow a cargo van or something maybe? Uhaul's a little spendy, but you could put em in something like that for a couple days while you relocate. Better than thdestroying em.

That might be a lil over kill for me Q it's only one plant and it truely does suck day 41 of 12/12 it's a G-13 haze x NYC Diesel first grow kind of, but thanks anyway bruh.

Is this in America? I dont think ANYONE can give a tennant less then 30 days to vacate. If you were given notice before and have two weeks left, then thats one thing but as of first notice, you should have 30 days.. Maybe that is just in some states..

At the very least, dont trash it. You could end up making some hash or something because 50 days shouldn't be too bad.


Yea frozenguy it's my first time going thruogh this but the free legal advice I got at housing court is it's a 30 day notice of eviction, and if I haven't move it's off to the Judge who will decide but usually asks how time do I need to move. Also there is a thing called pay for keys the new owner has offered to pay my security deposit if I move in this time, and I could only wish I get something at 50 days even if just the hash but it a haze pheno G-13 haze x NYC Diesel

Yep, in this country you need to be given a LOT more to vacate premises

whats up Mr.High country hell yep.

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When you're looking at a strain guide, then flowering time is how long from the day you switch to 12/12 to the "ideal" harvest date. Actual flowering time is the time from the day you switch, to the day you harvest, or the plants die, or whatever. Usually, the first 2-3 weeks of flower are a transition period where the plants are undergoing the chemical and biological changes from veg state to flowering state. People call that "the stretch" because they're still stretching as if in veg

Hey DUDE whats up, well this strain happens to be G-13 haze x Nyc Diesel from G-13 labs and my first time growing it, its at day 41 of 12/12 the breeder says the flowering time is between 50-65 days, but from your description it could be when ever or untill the trichomes tell me its ready but still all in all no acurate date, which can be anything for me b/c I've defoiliated the plant twice, and was actually ready to do it again but its kinda of late now, plus it stopped my stretch so my flowering time could be longer though I expect it to be a 70 day plant only one other person I seen grow this strain and he said it was a 10 weeker.
 

_Dude

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I think you'll be well served by going by the "manufacturer's" harvest dates, hehe. But yeah it's not written in stone. But if I were you, I'd trust the breeder first, and my instincts or analysis second. I was just trying to make the point that harvest day is when you harvest them. And there's always the fact that you can go against the breeder's recommendations on purpose. For example, some people like to harvest early because less mature trichs make for a headier high, or late because more mature trichs make for couchlock, and they like one or the other more than the recommended balance.
 

_Dude

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Oh and yeah, if you need to yank them a week early, don't sweat it. If anything, you'll probably like the high more that way. You'll just sacrifice some yield. I'm planning on taking a girl a week early this time around.
 

DOWNLOW

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Thanks Dude I'm in week 7 Monday puts me at 50 days, so I'm in the ballpark of three more weeks I nee to know when I should start flushing, my leaves aren't turnining yellow yet, should I start decreasing the nutes now or it doesn't matter what the leaves loook like.
 

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