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people are in possesion of strains ... people create new strains out of old strains ... but the idea of any individual "owning" a strain is flawed logic ... if you buy seed stock you are buying genetics ... you can not copyright and patent ganja
I agree with neptHaze on this.. And then there will still be that one breeder that will knock you for what you have done.. I saw it happen to certain people here before.. So becareful who's genetics you use. And all will be alright. peace..
Id say any time you breed it with the goal of producing a purposeful change in the resulting product. For example, if you took two C99's and deliberately crossed them with the goal of creating a pineapple-smelling offspring, id say you could call that yours, even though you didnt put in the base work to create c99, you deliberately put work into breeding to modify the product.
IMO 1.) Have worked with it for more than 2 generations or 1 year (indoors)3-5 years(outdoors) 2.) After you have made it better to suit a particular environment (including indoors in some circumstances) and depending on what it was bred for... Improved: Taste, Smell, Potency, Vigour, Size, Yield... So many other factors.
I would really like to see some more focused outdoor breeders offering seeds on SB. Afterall, thats where its meant to be... Or at least was at this point.
Dont forget, there are tons of people out there making new crosses and working with bred out seedlines claiming that they are making things "better" when in reality all they are doing is selling a cheaper, sometimes better yielding or even more potent strain.
It takes a long time to determine that you are truly making something "better" and not just getting lucky with uncommon phenotypes.
Thus the "clones".
But thats my narrow minded opinion for the day, Im sure experienced breeders will differ... And afterall those are just rough guidelines.
when you grow the cross out for a few generations, when you got that strain so down you can grow it better than mother nature herself, when you know every detail of the cross. who,what,when,where,how. then i believe you can call it one of your own.
I would call a strain mine when I worked on it for many years getting it to where I want it. When that happens I can call it my strain. Until then it's just using others to find your favorite(s). For example I got plenty of crosses that aren't named, just your basic hybrid names. I can name them and call them what I want but I can't call them my strain(s) because I didn't make them. In fact I feel kind of odd naming a strain that wasn't created by me. I do anyways just for the fun. In 20 years I'll have some shit I can call "my strains".
When you get to the F1 stage of seeds then you have a strain. Remember Burbank the potatoe dude!Mostly get the strain so the seeds produce a consistant set of characteristics.
"Remember, no one "invents" a new variety. All any breeder does is "reshuffle" the deck of cards known as genes. So, in essence, all modern hybrid varieties are simply new combinations of previously existing genes that were selected for beneficial combinations attractive to cannabis breeders and consumers. Credit the creation of the basic evolutionary building blocks (called "landraces") lies largely with natural selection, apart from human influences and unconscious human selection on the part of traditional hemp-using cultures."
Robert Connell Clarke, new article in Skunk Magazine.....