Whats wrong? pics.

[minds_I]

Hello all,

These are what my plants lok like as of today.

Whats your take on them?

There are in soil. The runoff pH is 6.75 - 7.0. I have been feeding with ewc tea with molasses and liquid kelp. The pH of the water is adjusted to 6.5.

What is the problem this time??

Help.

minds_I

EDIT: The soil is:
1 part kelloggs chicken shit organic soil
1 part ewc (waste I now know to use so much)
30% perlite

 

[sahima]

Hi minds_i, i don't have the experience to tell for sure and i can't help you more but maybe this is a magnesium deficiency. Good luck with the plant.

Taken from "mynamestitch" guide:""Magnesium is one of the easiest deficiencies to tell… the green veins along with the yellowness of the entire surrounding leave is a dead giveaway, but sometimes that’s not always the case here. In case you have one of those where it doesn’t show the green veins, sometimes leaf tips and edges may discolor and curl upward. The growing tips can turn lime green when the deficiency progresses to the top of the plant. The edges will feel like dry and crispy and usually affects the lower leaves in younger plants, then will affect the middle to upper half when it gets older, but It can also happen on older leaves as well. The deficiency will start at the tip then will take over the entire outer left and right sides of the leaves. The inner part will be yellow and or brownish in color, followed by leaves falling without withering. The tips can also twist and turn as well as curving upwards as if you curl your tongues.""

 

[Guest]

looks like your Burning your plant dude. do some more reading and research. i would flush then go half on nutes when ready to feed again.

 

[minds_I]

No nutes-just compost/ewc tea with kelp.

It almost looks like a Mg def. but almost like a zinc.

The thing is- I should not be deficient in anything. The pH is on the money.

These clones are in rockwool cubes in the above mentioned soil.

could this be an issue?

minds_I

 

[B.C.]

hhhhmmmm...

hhhhmmmm...

how often are ya watering?

 

[mean mr.mustard]

Try giving it some K. Meta K from earth juice is all organic... it looks like that's what you're shooting for

 

[Chamba]

it sounds like the pH is too high, causing lock out of Mg and other nutrients....water in with a 6.0 solution with a weak amount of high N , medium to low P and K and Mg in adequate amounts (which most balanced ferts have) and this should correct the slow growth and yellowing

have a read through my last few post for more info!

keep us informed!

and happy growing!

 

[BigJilm]

I agree with Kushmaster. Looks like overfert. How often do you give them the tasty tea? Overfert symptoms from organics are not as easy to distiguish as chemical overferts.
I would run 6.3 water through them. See what the initial run off looks like. If the run off looks rich in nutrients, I would flush a little bit more. If the run off is pretty clear, I would suspect micro nutes deficiencies and give them some cal-mag although it seems like you are an organics only guy. Bravo to that--someday I hope to do it all organic.
How much compost do you mix in?

 

[minds_I]

Hello all,

I would first like to thank you all for yoru comments and suggestions-all are welcome and appreciated.

I gave them a foliar spray of 6.7 pH water with liquid kelp. I do see a growth spurt since (12 hours) and it is not time to water. I will give them a few more days to dry out and if the problem presists or worsens I will take action sooner.

I have D.lime in the soil mix so the calcium and magnesium should already be there. In addition, I have foliar feed with epsom salts last week. Not to mention the Ca and Mg in the ewc/compsot tea.

They may grow through the fert issue if I back off on the extermely potent teas I used the first few times. In addition, I may have underestimated the increased benifit of the microherd introduced from the tea in breaking down the chicken shit.

Anyway the new growth seems to be a healthy green-if the problem presists I will do the flush.

I will get back to you all.

minds_I

 

[Chamba]

extra info is always helpful!....I just noticed how rich your soil is..use less perlite, less worm casts and less rich potting soil and replace with a basic potting soil.

and rough guide to diluting organic teas is to dilute down to the color of very weak tea (the drinking type) and alternate with plain water and read your plants from there....but with a rich soil mix, plain water is sufficient for a month or more depending on growth, size etc

over ferting damages the root system and takes awhile for it to repair and work properly again.....iof the problem gets worse, I'd de-pot the plants, remove 50 ~ 60 % of the soil and transplant into new potting soil in the same size pots..when they recover, water in organic teas - alot weaker this time

in future ...dilute the tea and let it sit for a few hours, adjust the solution down to low 6's on pH scale and then water in as many organic teas tend to be high pH

please keep us informed of their progress...happy growing

 

[Guest]

sorry I can't be more helpful, but I have had mg def in the past and this does not resemble the MG. def that I experienced. good luck.