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This plant is about 17 days into flowering. The leaves started to yellow on the lowest and biggest fan leaves first. They have since fallen off now and more of my leaves are starting to do the same thing. I"m using floranova bloom, i think i may have messed up and put 1 tablespoon :bashhead: of nutes into a gallon of water instead of a teaspoon so i'm kind of thinking i have nute burn? And i also think my ph may of been of been a little low. I flushed tonight with some distilled water ph'd at 6.5 my runoff was around 6.0.

The first picture shows what the leaves look like at first when they start to yellow (kind of hard to tell in the picture)





These next two pictures so what it looks like as the yellowing spreads






The last two pictures show what the leaves look like when the leaves are starting to die off.





I'm not sure if i have ph problems,nute burn or what so i'm hoping you guys can help me out and let me know what to do. I'm thinking right now all i can do is flush with distilled water but i'm not sure when i should start using nuted water again?
 
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MynameStitch

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FLush did well incase you did burn them, but a bloom nute was not gvoing to fix the problem, you have nitrogen and magneisum problems it looks like.

You need a grow fert with magneisum in it, or get a grow fert and some epsom salts.

Are you watering with distilled water?WHat soil mixture are these plants in?
 
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Thanks for replying stitch i've read over your plant guide a lot but i just dont have the exprience to diganose what problem it is because it seems to be more then one thing.
Anyways
I've been watering with just straight tap water up until the 2 colyatons (i forget wat there called) started to yellow and a few days after that i got some floranova bloom. At the time i didn't have distilled water so i just put a tablespoon of flora bloom into a gallon of tap water (maybe this is my problem?). But for now on i'll be using distilled water.
The plant is in a half gallon milk jug that i cut in half with Sta-green soil in it. I'm also thinking about transplanting it into either a 1 or 2 gallon grow bag.
Does my florvanova bloom not have enough Nitrogen and mag in it?
 
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MynameStitch

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Flora nova does not have enough nitrogen in it and it;s not for vegging plants; it's for plants that is in flowering.

I would not use distilled water unless you have micronutrient supplements which you do not have, if your tap water is too overly hard I would not use it, then you would have to get micronutrient supplements.

But for now, first get the plant to recover before you do anything else. Have you tested the pH? STA green has a lot of peat and not much lime in it....
 
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My plant is in flowering so i dont know if that changes anything. It's been flowering for about 18 days now. After the flush with distilled water my plant looked a lot better the next day and she started smelling again. I checked the ph of the run off when i waterd with distilled and it was around 6.
I'm not sure if my tap water is hard or soft because i dont have the equipment to test it.
 

MynameStitch

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Did you go to flowering pretty much from seed or something?
Either way, the plant has a nitrogen problem and with the plant being small that is the LAST thing you want right now, the leaves will eventually fall off so you want as many leaves as possible for flowering.

So use some veg fert which one you have?

You can use both veg and bloom, but it depends on what veg fert you are going to use, make sure it does not have a lot of P and K so you can use your bloom fert with it.

You ever let water boil down in a pan on the stove before? Not using one with teflon, but an iron pot?
Teflon is dangerous I try to avoid it all the time if I can, but if you boil water down it's an absolute must you DO NOT use a pan to do that trick in due to teflon syndrome, the vapor hits the air at around 500 F which is toxic to humans and birds; it will kill a bird right away even if it's not in the same room.

I will not allow anyone to use teflon in my home, because I own an african grey parrot.
Anyways, take a pot without teflon and put water in there and turn the fire up high and let the water boil out, if there is white substance on the side, a lot of it; you have hard water.

You can't boil down calcium and magneisum with the temps that a stove can put out.
 
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Thanks stitch for keeping an eye on my thread you're being a great help and i appreciate that you take the time to help so many ppl with plant problems.
but yes i've growing this plant 12/12 from seed. I should have mentioned that because that is very important. All i have is florvanova bloom right now. Would alaska fish emulsions have a high enough N ratio? I figure i could get some fish emulsions and some earth juice microblast and then mix both of those and some of my florvanova into a gallon of distilled and this would give it the nutrients it needs. I'll see if my tapwater is hard or not, i figure if it's not then i could probably get by with some fish emulsions and the floranova and mix it into tap water to provide the macros but i'll let you tell me since your the expert lol
 

MynameStitch

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Yes, fish emulsion would be the best to fix this problem, use it with your bloom fert :)

Sounds like a great plan ya got! just be sure to let the microblast sit out a bit so the pH will rise once it's mixed in.

I would let it set out for 24 hours and then shake real good and feed.

Your plants won't need much with there size, so make sure you don't listen to the directions on the back of the bottle..... I Would use 1/2 teaspoon of earthjuice per gallon 1/2 teaspoon of fish emulsion and what dosage you use for your bloom just make sure it;s not real high, you always feed by the size of the plant, remember that :)

If the nutes were made for cannabis, then it's safe to listen to there directions.

Np dude, that is what I am here for; I try to help out as much as I can, I am glad you appreciate it; cause I really hate it when peeps don't appreciate things, just a thank you is good enough imo.

I appreciate the comments very much :yes:
 
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