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Whats up with this clone?

GrassArt

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SO, got to my garden two days ago, saw that my clones (who were in 2-3" pots) needed water severely. They were drooping extremely bad, must had needed water the day or 2 before, and got it late. All of the leaves on this clone were completely flat down and wilted.

Heres where I think i messed up, after seeing her so wilted, I watered her, then transplanted her to a 1g container, and now the wilted leaves have just become completely dried up, where it goes from bright green and healthy, to darker color and necrotic, the leaves are brittle and hard! Can this be helped? Or will i just have to start from the new growth, ie: those leaves can't be helped.

Water'd with 1/4 strength BioCanna - Vega (Vegging) (3.5 - 1.0 - 5.5) 8ml/g.
Under 4 24W T5 floros, temps between 80-70 (no way light burn caused this, the temps never go above 85.

Before Water - 10/19/07
Clone on FAR LEFT. She was going to be a mom 2, had 6 shoots going out all directions.


Wilted on the 20th-21st.

Now :(














lol, shes looks so pathetic its sad! Not one of the other clones did this, although this clone was hit the worst by no water.

GrassArt


*my bad plants*
 

MynameStitch

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Either 1 A the soil mixture is strong for them; + the added nutrients you fed them.... for them that young 2 tsp a gallon is still a lot for that size of a plant. even though they are clones they are still easy to burn.

or B, the nitrogen deficiency that you had on some of those clones; what you are seeing is after the plant stopped sucking nitrogen from the leaves and what is left over is necrotic tissue.

They do this after you got them into the soil mixture? how long did it take?
WHat soil mixture is it?

But in all honesty it looks like the soil mixture/ or the amount of nutrients you used + the amount in the soil is burning them....
 
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GrassArt

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Ok, so timeline..

They were healthy and in the little pots then I forgot to water em overnight. She (in particular more than any really) got extremely wilted. The day after she was wilted (wilted in the night, then next day watered) with a 1/4str solution, AND transplanted to her larger pot.

My theory
I know that those clones needed nutes on the next watering. But becuase she was in so much schock from being wilted and then transplant, combined with a dosage of nutes at what was ONCE a good time but no longer really killed a lot of tissue for the leaves.

The new growth is inside of the necrotic, ifit continues to just grow outwards (new growth looks great) I'm going to cut away the necrotic tissue, even though it just dusts away.

GrassArt
 
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MynameStitch

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What soil mixture are you using? What mixture where they in for clones and what mixture are they in now in the pots?

1/4 strength is 8 ml/gallon?
 

GrassArt

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OOps, I edit'd my post above after you had just posted Stitch.

^^

They are in BioCanna Terra Soil, its supposed to be insanely great stuff. While using it with the entire BioCanna line your supposed to not need to worry about Ph (starting to question that though now) or needing perlite (does have great drainage though, compared with just plants in general). Imma figure out a way to test the Ph, cuase the soil sticks suck cuase they are so inaccurate and not sure how to do the strips in soil.

hehe no

1/4 str is 2ml a gall

same mixture, before and now, I watered her in the litle pot, then transplanted her, then just added some water to dampen the soil around the inside so the roots would search).

what ya think of my theory above?

GrassArt
 

MynameStitch

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ok, cause you put 1/4 strength 8ml/gal which was why I was like huh??? lol


First off you need to test the ph. 2nd It looks like it was strong ferts in the soil but the clones were not doing this before..... weird. But since you watered her before transplanting and then watered her again you may have given her a boles dose of nutrients that was in the soil...... meaning the 2 waterings put out a strong dose of nutrients added with the nutrients you gave to it...... the plant did not need any food even though the fan leaves where yellowing; the clones normally always yellow from rooting so when the clone gets it's roots it starts out and does not need nutrients right away as long as the soil has good nutrients in it.

Edit: side the fact if you look at the plant and not the yellow fan leaves the plant is overall the right tone of green which would indicate no nutrient deficiencies; now if this was a seedling grown up then it would need nutrients but clones naturally yellow from slow rooting or using stored nutrients while it establishes it's root system.
 
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