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What's up with these leaves?

BL4ZE20

Member
Looking for a little help on what's going on with one of my plants. It started with the lowest leaves and continues to work it's way up.

How long has this problem been going on? three weeks
What STRAIN are you growing? Mandala Satori
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) Seed
What is the age of your plants? 45 days
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 2 weeks
How Tall are the plants? 22 inches
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? 14 days flower
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) none
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot) 1.5 Gallon
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) Fox Farm Ocean Forest with some added high phosphorous bat guano.
What Nutrient's are you using? None
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*
How often are you feeding? Just tap water for now
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used? N/A
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? around 6
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? General Hydroponics Liquid Concentrate
How often are you watering? Every 2-4 days
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding? haven't fed yet
What size bulb are you using? 150w Hps
What is the distance to the canopy? 5 inches
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity) N/A
What is the canopy temperature? 80
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range) 74-80 during lights off- 77-83 during lights ON
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) 100 Cfm
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ? S&P Td-100 runs 24/7
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? I have a cpu fan blowing across the canopy
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist? No
Is your water HARD or SOFT?
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water? Tap water that I let sit out
Are you using water from a water softener? NO
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched? NO
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when? Nope
Are plant's infected with pest's? No

Here's a leaf that's in the earlier stage of whatever is happening



And one that's a little more messed up


I'd appreciate any insight.
 
D

Denial N Error

Did those leaves come directly in contact with the soil layer or something? Kinda what it looks like..
 

BL4ZE20

Member
I don't think so, it's possible some of the lowest one's tips could have got in the soil but they're all dropped off and dead now. The one's doing it now are nowhere near the soil level.
 
S

Space Ghost

A 22" plant in a 1.5 gal container? Even though you are in early flowering Transplanting would be the best option. 3+ gal would be great.

No nutes? why? FFOF + guano is not amended enough to carry plants all the way through flowering. Get some known flowering ferts such as earth juice bloom, tiger bloom, biobizz ect. ect. ect... pretty much anything with high P, K, Ca, Mg and low N, but at this phase of flowering you will need a pinch of N.

Could you take some pics of the whole plant/setup so we can get a better idea of what's going on?
 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
Veteran
some added high phosphorous bat guano

this would be the problem. It is burning those plants.

You need to be real careful mixing soil. too much additives, and you burn your plants bad and you can't flush it out fast enough. The other issue is uneven distribution of ferts in the soil. Too much in part of the soil and it fries the plants you put in it.

I now use straight coco and give all liquid food because of an incident with too hot cocosoil and an entire garden almost lost.....
 

BL4ZE20

Member
I have to use small containers because of my cab size. I've just been letting her feed off the soil but I do have liquid ferts if she needs them.

Heady pete - are you sure it's the bat guano? I have another satori that I amended with the same guano and she's not having these problems.

I'll try and get some more pictures for you guys it's lights off for now.
 

stAx

Member
are the stems bendy and pliable like they normally would be.? or more hard like and stiff to squeeze. looks like a crispy critter to me. good ole plain jane wtaer is your friend in this case, imo. with a correct ph of course maybe 6.2 is ideal in your case. g/l
 

BL4ZE20

Member
Since I can't seem to find anything else it'd be i'm thinking headypete must be right. It must be the bat guano I must of somehow either put to much in this girls pot or have a hot spot. I'm guessing my only option is to give her a good flush?
 

HeadyPete

Take Five...
Veteran
Hi sorry I have been away....as you said, hot spots can differ from pot to pot, and different strains can take different doses.

Usually with dry amendments you can't flush them out and a transplant into new soil/media is required.

If they aren't getting worse than they were than your plants have grown into the dose...
 

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