Whats this all about?

[Guest]

nkjh

 

[sproutco]

Time to repot. I suggest promix or other soilless mix like majestic, fafard, sunshine, etc... Move them up to a gallon size. Tip: go to your local nursery and ask for extra 1 gal pots. They gave them to me free. Sterilize with bleach for 10 min. Wash with clear water. Foliar feeding should not be necessary. It is permanent so I only recommend it for emergency times. As far as the 3lb grows, I dont know where to get the info. Google cache? Read quite a few...

 

[sproutco]

Thats funny. I typed in promix + gypsum and I get a quote by me. Big brother is watching. Check the label on your soilless mix to see if gypsum = sulfur is included. See the link in my signature for the importance of sulfur.

You will probably have to add gypsum to the promix.

powdered...

 

[sproutco]

I typed that in to google. Too weird. icmag is screwed up right now. I cant edit or add to my previous post...

 

[R00KIE]

Yep... Definently time to transplant, and most pro-mix have gypsum in it....

 

[Guest]

I Really doubt it has to do with transplanting, i expected that would be one of the first suggestions. I 've flowered in smaller. And i have large healthy plants in small or smaller pots, i dont belive in "root bound" i know it can happen and i understand the concept, i just dont grow the plants that fast for certin reasons and can keep a plant healthy and in a small container for a very prolonged period of time.

Ps. There in slightly ammended Fox Farms Ocean mix soil. Mychro rhizza, extra kelp meal , a lil quano , some sub culture, just a very little bit of this and that, all composted nicely pervious to planting.

 

[Guest]

I'm thinkin ~ K.

They got fed today 1 tbl spoon earth juice grow
1 tsp cal mag
1.00mil roots excelatator
.25 tsp Fox farms grow big

 

[MTF-Sandman]

Hmmm...I was leaning towards root bound also...everything except for the very bottom leaves looks great, so it's a problem with nute uptake of the "mobile" nutes.

I've also flowered SOG clones in 6x6x6 pots, but that was top feed coco and they started showing minor problems towards the end of flowering with nute uptake.

 

[sproutco]

so it's a problem with nute uptake of the "mobile" nutes.

What ph are you using for your fert water and what is the runoff ph from the small cups? Directions for testing soil ph are in my signature

Did this occur after you foliar fed? Too much maybe?

Does look like potassium def but lets not jump to conclusions.

 

[Blackmelo]

I Really doubt it has to do with transplanting, i expected that would be one of the first suggestions. I 've flowered in smaller. And i have large healthy plants in small or smaller pots, i dont belive in "root bound" i know it can happen and i understand the concept, i just dont grow the plants that fast for certin reasons and can keep a plant healthy and in a small container for a very prolonged period of time.

Ps. There in slightly ammended Fox Farms Ocean mix soil. Mychro rhizza, extra kelp meal , a lil quano , some sub culture, just a very little bit of this and that, all composted nicely pervious to planting.

You do not believe in rootbound? LOL. Maybe it is time to start believing my friend because your plants are rootbound.

How many ppl have suggested that is the problem? But then again how many ppl would it take to convince you I can fly? Heehee.

Transplant now or lose more leaves. There is nothing wrong with your plants, they are looking great but a healthy rootbound plant will still start showing problems. Could also do with a little more of that cal-mag maybe.

 

[sproutco]

I was thinking. They are in fox farm enriched soil with a little added stuff + Fed:
First - Guano tea with earth juice catalyst.
Seccond - Earch juice grow with a little cal mag.
Third - Earth juice.
Foliar fed once with fox farms grow big.

Too many nutrients?

For instance...Phosphorus excess:

General yellowing of leaves, older leaf tips and margins later become yellowish or brownish, followed by coloured necrotic spots; leaf abscission develops (similar to potassium deficiency in some plants and nitrogen excess in others)

 

[R00KIE]

Could very well be that they were overfed, but those are little cups they are in and those plants are like 8-10 inches tall...
I too took a plant that I had been bonsai'ing for awhile, was a mom in a 3x3 little square pot... She stayed in there for almost 4 mos as i topped and cut her up...
Then i got fed up with watering her all the time and threw her in flower...
I can safely say that rootbound has a bad effect on flowering....
Smaller buds, nutrient problems, etc....
I'd go up to atleast a 6x6 pot and i'd be flowering in the next week....
They do look good though aside from the lower leaves....
Thx for the K btw MM... CRS rules.... heheh
Wait a minute what was I saying???

 

[Guest]

thats the thinkg guys they dont look that good on top they kinda look tye-dyeish blochy
The green is not that nice nor that soill lookin in actual life.

And about "root boud" I know its real , and i know thease plants are far from it.

There 6 intall in a 12 in cup. i have 3 foot plants in a 5x5x5.

 

[sproutco]

Figure your ph out.

 

[Guest]

Got the dolomite lime in the mix, 7.0ish water goin in ... 7.0ish water runnin out.

 

[sproutco]

Ph is too high.

 

[Guest]

on which side water going in or run off....?

The 7.0 ph is before nutrients have been added to water.

The 7.0 run off is when the pot start to drip water.

Id really hate to narrow this down to ph, another problem i dont feel "exists". at least when it comes to soil and organics again just my opinion dont tear me up. i know you can get ph problems regardless but i have confidence in my dolomite lime. lol. ignorance is bliss.

Honestly thought i have the dolomite lime in the soil to keep the ph from gettin to far off center.

They've responded great to their last feeding.

I'm thinking this is just a lack of food issue, what ever food it may have been i think they were just wanting some regularly schedualed balanced meals.

 

[GratefulPhish]

too much cal-mag!!! its more potent than it says on older bottles and fluxes the pH! just use a little if you see signs of cal-mag defeciency and u should be alot better... i use the exact same system and experienced same problem

 

[sproutco]

on which side water going in or run off....?

The 7.0 ph is before nutrients have been added to water.

The 7.0 run off is when the pot start to drip water.

7.0 runoff is high.

 

[bounty29]

lol... So since you don't believe these are real, documented problems, you feel your plants are immune to them? How do you expect people to help you here?