What really are the deformations?

[asaf]

Growing plants from seed some plants show deformatios, repetitive or not, severe or smooth. But if you grow the plant with patience pruning the worse, finally some meristem grow normal with good health and look.

Is a mutation correction, viral or bacterial illness, is a problem or malformation in the seed, What is it?

Why this phenomenon?

Thanks!

 

[HuffnPufferfish]

could be all or any or none

 

[Chunkypigs]

could be cookie genetics.

 

[Tynehead Tom]

could be cookie genetics.

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I have a Cash Crop Ken Nuken seedling doing the same thing as your first pic. (shiskaberryxgodbud)

 

[asaf]

This is my well documented and recent example, one pck male, it is a gift, two seeds of cannabiogen mix, only can be pck.


The father

In the second clone I had been thinking the mutation end, but some time after one meristem with three stems.

 

[asaf]

The clones of two different times, the first ending deformations and the second is the meristem with three stems.

 

[asaf]

Another double stem, the leafs are perfect. The flowers are opening now. Collecting pollen...

I have other plant one peyote purple, with more serious deformations, the plant growth as knots , I prune it and finally the plant is growing normally, after four moths.

What do you make with this plants? maintain or drop?

Thanks!

 

[Hashash]

having one stem is more or less a phenotypical expression,
i read all over the net plants with two stems.. people keep them.

can be a fancy thing if you select them towards two stems
if it grows good otherwise why not keep it.

 

[asaf]

Hi, thanks! yes. The problem are the deformations, pruning and observing two months, the deformations disappear, step to step, but are this deformations transmitted to the offspring? or are relate with seed formation and germination? Can be this related to inbred?

Really the question is for understand why. All related with the pollen and cross is only for experimentation, times materials humidity etc. Loss fears and get self confidence.

The soil, watering, pots, temperature, light and all treatment are equal for all plants, and only these strains show deformations, also one is dwarf and eat more.
B. light mix and vermiculite, ph 6.3, ec 0.3 to 0.6, temp from 19 to 23ºc, nutrients canna t. vega and if the plant eat more, worm fertilizer, isn't the case...

Thanks!

 

[Hashash]

hmm i really cant answer that for sure.. its a very deep question
it is connected to many possibilities, it can be a hormonal imbalance which can happen
due to improper intake or availability of nutrients and the offspring may just be normal again.
or even because of that become a genetic drifter.. all possible..

it can also have to do with the inherited genetics.. since genes are in pairs and sometimes contain errors
which does not mean that it cant grow normal so even normal looking biological entities can have defects
i guess there is a reason that genes are in pairs.. so it still can work and cross out again.

only if you cross a one side impaired with another one side impaired at the same allele
the offspring my lead to further genetic errors.. so its with humans at least
thats why its fatal not to mix close relatives which have a slight defect on one part
with a close relative since this can lead to genetic disorders.

so it can be that it transmits further to the offspring, but the best thing if you have the time
to find out for sure and make an f1 and unfold the offspring to see

not sure if there are plenty of people who can really answer that otherwise
since crippled mutated growth is not upon the usual focus of interest.

one example where a mutation which sure is interesting is the ducks foot.
but there is an idea out there that these were crossed to humulus japonicus
if that ever was true at least there are varieties which look like it.

plants are alive they can change they mutate and react to their surroundings.
fixing it towards a "normal" expression takes time and patience but can be done
as long as they reproduce.

 

[biologic]

That's definitely not a good sign.