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what promotes best root developement?

lotatokin

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what does anyone use to promote the root system? i was doing some transplanting,,,,and was not impressed with the root growth,,,,,,what can ya give em ?
 

Levitikuz

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Ive seen that after using super thrive has really helped my root production. Even with no transplanting from small pots to big they usually have a really nice root system when using super thrive. Very cheap also, $10 for a container that will last forever, it only takes 1 drop per gallon. Its the best non "nute" additive ive ever used.

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Rosy Cheeks

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Humus is great for creating a root friendly environment. A common misconception in agriculture is that phosphorus stimulates root growth, but it does not. CO2 is the only substance that can make roots grow faster.
A lot of growers find Canna's Rhizotonic the best root booster on the market; but personally I'm more impressed by Plagron's Roots.
 

gromer

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Wow no one said Mycorrhizae.Wierd best root development ever!!Hands down,want baby clones to take off Piranha tarantula and Voodoo juice by AN make the roots from a single clone fill a 16 oz cup in a week,now thats root development.If your feeling thrifty Plant Sucess soluble and some Molasses mixed together will have the same effect and run you under twenty dollars as opposed to the 150 youd pay for the smallest sizes of the AN stuff,but if you can afford it its well worth the extra scrach.Ill agree with the B1 and humic acids as well but nothing makes roots boom like Mycorrhyzal fungi and beneficial bacteria.
 
G

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For best root growth you must have the following.

-Healthy plant overall
-Very light and airy medium which holds water well but not for more than a few days
-Water from the bottom up. I like to place my pots in trays from time to time and let the soil soak up the water instead of pouring it ontop of the soil.
-There are beneficial bacteria that help and promote healthy root systems.
-Learning how to properly apply the right amount of water.
 

weightlifter

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lotatokin said:
what does anyone use to promote the root system? i was doing some transplanting,,,,and was not impressed with the root growth,,,,,,what can ya give em ?
for ridiculous root growth I use voodoo juice, piranha and tarantula. although voodoo juice alone will give you a massive root system... when you transplant do you presoak your medium in a ph'd balanced solution? you should do this and also add voodoo juice to the mix. should work wondersss
 

bounty29

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I remember reading an article about someone using square pots and coating the inside of them with something. Then, add the soil and the plant. The combination of the roots hitting this flat wall and the reaction to the substance coating the wall was the roots turning around and growing inward, instead of going right to the edge of the container and covering it from there. Anyone know what I'm talking about?
 

neongreen

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Rosy Cheeks said:
CO2 is the only substance that can make roots grow faster.

What Rosy Cheeks said is along the right lines, but perhaps a bit misleading.

CO2 is used in the photosynthetic process to produce sugar, which can then be transported around the plant to areas which need energy. Photosynthesis normally only occurs in the leaves, and other green areas where chloroplasts are present. It's in these areas where gas exchange occurs (ie. CO2 is taken in by the plant). Roots are not designed to take up CO2 as they don't have stomata (the structures which allow gas exchange), and there is no reason for roots to have CO2 (there are no chloroplasts and therefore no photosynthesis). Giving a plant CO2 will boost the overall growth rate of the plant (both above and below ground), but only if the other factors which limit photosynthesis are not limited.

What is usually overlooked is that roots need Oxygen to work efficiently (respiration drives the uptake of ions in roots, and requires Oxygen to take place), which is the reason why aeroponics works so well - even better than hydroponics. Ensuring your roots are well oxygenated will mean that your plant is more efficient in taking up the various things it needs to grow, which in turn will mean a better developed root system.

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neongreen

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bounty29 said:
I remember reading an article about someone using square pots and coating the inside of them with something. Then, add the soil and the plant. The combination of the roots hitting this flat wall and the reaction to the substance coating the wall was the roots turning around and growing inward, instead of going right to the edge of the container and covering it from there. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

Yes - it was a copper containing compound called "Spin Out" IIRC.

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neongreen

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Also, another thing that intrigues me is that some strains appear to grow better when their root systems are un-restricted, where as others seem to benefit from being restricted. I have heard some indoor Deep Chunk growers saying that regular transplanting into gradually increasing pot sizes gets better results than less frequent transplanting for instance. This also seems to contradict the well known fact that DC does better outdoors (where root-space is un-restricted).

Anyone know what's going on here?

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weightlifter

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neongreen said:
What is usually overlooked is that roots need Oxygen to work efficiently (respiration drives the uptake of ions in roots, and requires Oxygen to take place), which is the reason why aeroponics works so well - even better than hydroponics. Ensuring your roots are well oxygenated will mean that your plant is more efficient in taking up the various things it needs to grow, which in turn will mean a better developed root system.

ng
in order to get this amount of oxygen needed into the root space, the simple rule must be followed: "Do not apply till dry." This allows air back into the medium.
 
G

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Neon in finite container grows proper utilization of available media is even more important than finishing container size.If you plant a seed directly into a large container like 3 gal the roots will grow along the sides to the bottom and swirl,leaving a large unused portion of soil in the middle of the container.Thats why in soil container grows it important to really let the rootball fill the container before transplanting up,that and having the plant in the proper sized container is the best way to determine when to water.With unrestricted root growth outside I dont believe any of this applies.I do know one thing from a bit of experience,plant a seed in a 3 gal pot and you'll end with much less yield than if you would have started that seed in a 4 inch pot to 2 gal to 3 gal.
 

neongreen

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weightlifter said:
in order to get this amount of oxygen needed into the root space, the simple rule must be followed: "Do not apply till dry." This allows air back into the medium.

I agree, and have always tried to follow this rule.

I suppose what I'm really hinting at, is that it may be possible to improve on this, without having to build/invest in an aeroponics system.

The theory is, if you can keep the water well oxygenated, then you can give them water 24/7, which would keep them growing faster since water is unlimited, even for a short while. Giving them the Oxygen at the same time will also mean that there is no limitation on mineral-ion uptake. Then all you have to do is give them sufficient light, the correct temperature, some CO2, and the growth rate should explode.

One or two people tried some experiments using aquatic air-stones sunk into soil, with mixed results when OG was still around. I think it may be worth pursuing, from another angle perhaps. A water pump, feeding oxygenated water directly into the soil/roots might be a better idea. I'm just throwing some ideas around. :smoke:

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