what makes a good male for breeding

[Guest]

like the title says what makes a good male to breed with , or what is your criteria for choosing a top notch male ?

i have seen many male plants but none of them have ever struck me to say holy chit that's a bad ass male i need to collect pollen from ?

also if you have a special male plant please post pix of him ..

el blastido

 

[Tafari]

1: Good resin production on the pollen sacks.
2: Good flower producer "Lots of male flowers.

Tafari

 

[Guest]

Also resin production in the fan leaves, you will see it closer to the stalk. Remember that resin production is generally a recessive trait in males whereas a lot of males show vigorous growth. You want a male that has both qualities, leaning toward resin production for obvious reasons.

 

[Guest]

check out strain_searcher's thread in the soil forum entitled "Sour Creek"

he posted a male sour creek that looks like it will beat the fuck out of you if you look at it the wrong way.. one brolic son of a bitch... very bushy too, i just love the pic u should look its a beautiful sight..

i refuse to post anyone elses pics, so you'll have to check if yer interested :-D

i have a strong oaxacan male somewhere in my gallery..

 

[strain_searcher]

Sour Bubble Male

Sour Bubble Male

 

[raygun]

dude it has balls

dude it has balls

Hi every one
Nice male sour bubble
I have some picts of my Apollos Mist male that is at day 16 flowering no open sacs yet.
He was the fatest of the seedlings with the tightest internodal spacing and vigerous growth. It was the 1st plant to show sex with in 7 days. I will be using him to pollinate my Apollos Mists for some F2's(i thnk that is correct) and with my sour bubble just for kicks.


him as a youngster

here he was in the 1st week of flower

He is the one on the bottom right

Hope this helps some
~raygun~

 

[newbgrow]

Wouldnt that depend on your goal of breeding? Just find plants that are tall, short, bushy, have lots of pollen, vigorous, not too much stretch, etc.. find traits that you really like and thats it. what are you breeding for? do you want a taller plant? shorter? faster maturity? have a clear goal in mind and find as many similar plants and pollenate...

anyone feel im wrong feel free to correct

 

[Dr. D]

Wouldnt that depend on your goal of breeding? Just find plants that are tall, short, bushy, have lots of pollen, vigorous, not too much stretch, etc.. find traits that you really like and thats it. what are you breeding for? do you want a taller plant? shorter? faster maturity? have a clear goal in mind and find as many similar plants and pollenate..

exactly newbgrow..its down to what you want to achieve out of the cross you are lookin for...you need a goal in mind when making a cross...peace

 

[Bonzo]

Good thread

bonz

 

[Guest]

http://cannabisworld.org/vbportal/forums/forumdisplay/f-50.html

The above link to CW - will cover all your breeding questions

 

[Guest]

Tric field does not relate to potentcy what so ever, u can pick males by physical appearence, but once you have found 5 or 6 males that meet your criteria, you must test cross each individual to see what that male will throw in the population.

the way in which each male combines with your select females will determine which male is worth a rip. your ugly duckling could be the best parent

CBF

 

[Verite]

I do check trichome developement on the young leaves but also do a stalk rub between the fingers and take a whiff and get a feel for how sticky and scented it is.

 

[deZerTomB]

When you do the stalk rub, also look for coloration(purple!) on the main stem and leaf stems.

Good thread, I agree it's up to the individual and what they are looking to create. Vigor and bushiness(tight internodal spacing) and stem coloration are my main criteria. They are all easily distinguishable early characteristics.

 

[dc105]

Here is a shot of my best Godbud that I used to pollinate a very crystally DieselGum. He was only 2 weeks into flower and was much more developed than the other males and females in the garden. I loved the purple he was displaying early too! My GodBuds have dense buds with great trich production. The dieselgum has a pheno that gets purple too! So I felt this would make an excellent cross. I have sampled alittle of the DieselGum and she is very potent!!!! Here are the 2 I crossed.





Here is the DieselGum from Grat3fulH3ad. I highly recommended his crosses!

 

[Guest]

thanks for all the input , i do believe this to be a thread of great value so please add any pertinent info you feel .

dc105 that is one nice looking male , i have seen some burly males but none yet with a cluster like that .

el blastido

 

[Guest]

dropped a nice load , who gets the wet spot lol

i dub that male john holmes

el blastido

 

[dc105]

Thanks Bro! It almost looked like a bud it was tightly formed. Very early too! The female buds were just barely formed when the male looked like this! Peace

 

[Guest]

Here is a male mind boggle that I chose for my Mind Boggle F2s. I am taking a chance in only using one male. It could just as easily reverse genetics and A test grow will be required before the seeds go to seedbay. I have thrown away more seeds because a test grow was not worthy. This is why many breeders choose more than one male to use when they are starting a new strain. This insures that the grower will get a good mother out of the pack. As the breeder starts to inbreed the strain then they will eventually reduce the male factor down to one male plant. The seeds have to be tested again. It is time consuming but this is how most of the big dogs do it. Rezdog tells it like it is and it is worth the time to study his and BOGs breeding techniques. Rezdog just won strain of the year with his ECSD You can follow his work and see exactly how he created the strain and the versions that followed and now his ECSD IBLs

male mind boggle

Mind Boggle 2001

I am in the process of creating F2s because the original MB mother and her clones are long grown out. I will take a clone from the original Mind Boggle seeds that I am using to create the F2s with. I will raise the clone and I will grow out the F2s, test them and choose a worthy male from the F2 seed stock. If there is not a worthy male then the project is scrapped. The clone from the mother mind boggle will be pollinated from the F2 male causing a back cross in the strain. These seeds will be test grown again and I will look for reverse genetics such as hermies, low level nutrient toxicity, light sensitivity, dwarfs, and any other problem that can arise when inbreeding. It happens with animals when a dog or cat has been inbreed to much. They come out deaf or blind or simply retarted. This is also the case when inbreeding a line and this is when you know you have a reputable breeder because they take the time and the steps to do it right.

There are many ways to breeding and many techniques. You have to find your own nitch that fits the grove for you and your grow room setup. Once you do that then you are on your way. Patience is a virtue and only the time involved in growing can satisfy it's hunger.

Peace & love to all
annac
selected pollination on the lower branches will leave the main cola virtually seedless and still give you plenty of test seeds to continue with the project. One of several breeding methods I use along the way.

 

[dc105]

Yep! You hit it right on the head Annac! Sounds like your on your way! I did test my males tops for potency and its vigor was awesome so I hope it's a keeper! I have been doing some minor breeding projects myself over the past several years along with doing a few test grows for others. I just moved indoors this past year and would like to get a little more serious over the next year and start isolating desired traits! I have a friend who just cusses males and hates the site of one, but they are essential in breeding and backcrossing! You can't tell some people that though! I guess males aren't for everyone, but strains would eventually die out if everyone took that approach!(maybe clone only strains) Yeah! Rez has some top genetics! It's hard to decide when buying his seeds cuz they're all so damn good!!! Good luck with your projects! Peace


http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=15986&page=1&pp=15

 

[Guest]

Tric field does not relate to potentcy what so ever, u can pick males by physical appearence, but once you have found 5 or 6 males that meet your criteria, you must test cross each individual to see what that male will throw in the population.

the way in which each male combines with your select females will determine which male is worth a rip. your ugly duckling could be the best parent

CBF

Maybe not, but most people would say "more crystals, better smoke". So it's what I look for. And I was mostly borrowing from SubCool's spread in HT a couple months ago. He talked a lot about male selection.

To each his own.