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What I've noticed from police encounters in NYC

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Just like LE need to be trained on using their weapons in high stress and surprising situations, so should we be trained in wielding our rights under stress and when we least expect it.

Here's what I realized from numerous traffic stops and encounters w/ police:

1) You'll never expect a stop. There are times when we would hot box a car smoking 2-3 joints non-stop on the highway passing by a lot of cop cars expecting to get stopped ("smoking the evidence!") and we never did. Cops just whizz by.. other times we're perfectly following the law, not even a dent on the car, nobody is smoking, no loud music, and we'd get stopped. It depends on location as well, but when it happens you only have about 10 seconds to react.

2) Cops will always try to sneak up on you, especially when you're not driving but are sitting in your vehicle idle or loitering outside. I've never seen a cop until he was a few feet from me. The best place to smoke outside is a big open field where you can see all around you.

As for driving, I'll usually hear the "woo woooo" siren noise, followed by doors closing in unison and seeing "cop legs" walking towards me in the mirror. Shuffling or making "furtive" movements will only hasten the cops and make them suspicious. I don't suggest "eat it if they stop us" as a plan. Drugs should be hidden well before you begin the trip.

3) Eating bud is harder than it looks. It doesn't go down easy, and your breath will REEK of Cannabis; Probably enough to serve as probable cause to search you or the vehicle.

4) No matter how hard you try, it's impossible to get stopped smoking rolled tobacco. I walk around in NYC rolling tobacco and smoking it in public like a joint intentionally, so I can get stopped and make the cop feel dumb, but other than weird looks I get from people, I don't get stopped. It's probably just luck or the lack of a smell.

Carrying rolling tobacco (even if you don't smoke) while you smoke water cured bud would likely be enough to convince a cop you're just smoking tobacco.

5) Sometimes the cop wouldn't want to bust you necessarily, but may feel a duty to. If you're walking outside drinking beer in public, the cop kinda has to do something to make a point. Put that beer in a paper bag and the cop can look the other way. I noticed the same thing with weed, with some cops asking "are you sure there's bud in here? this isn't tobacco?" etc.. probably because they don't want to deal with the paperwork. This may not be the case in your area but my point is to stay cordial and NEVER admit to any wrongdoing, ever. Whether you have 1g or 1 kilo is the same to them. Don't plead your case to them.

Once a cop kept asking if it was bud in the joint and my friend kept insisting that YES IT WAS. So what could the cop do? He took us all in..

The cops will not and cannot help you. Don't admit to shit!

NO it's not reefer. NO I don't have any drugs or weapons on me. NO you can't search me. Am I being detained? Can I go now?

6) I get stopped often if I grow a beard. I get stopped more if I'm driving with blacks, hispanics, desi (browns) and less with oriental asians and blondes.

7) At the cop station they make you take off your shoes and socks. The only place suitable for hiding small amounts of drugs on you in the police station is on or behind your knees and in your crotch (maybe in your boobs if you're a chick?) Those don't get searched, at least not for non-felony charges where I am. You CAN put drugs in your shoes but they will take a peak inside and hit the shoes together, so if the drugs aren't fastened securely they will drop.

8) Realize that if a cop wants to, he can charge you with A LOT more than just smoking in public (or whatever you're doing.) Endangering children, etcetc. Keep this in mind. It is a good reason to stay cordial.

9) Handcuffs hurt because you're probably leaning back on them. Sit straight and lean to the side or forward.

If you're black you'll probably get handcuffs + ankle cuffs
 
9) Handcuffs hurt because you're probably leaning back on them. Sit straight and lean to the side or forward.

If you're black you'll probably get handcuffs + ankle cuffs[/quote]

I stay clear off of the radar by driving an unthreatening car. Everybody drives similar cars to mine on the road so I blend in very well. The only downside is that I have super dark tint (2.5% all around) , but this has not been an issue yet. I smoke in my car quite a bit but you can't see me sitting in my front seat from directly in front of my car. That's why I love tint, some jurisdictions this is a NO-NO. When I have been pulled over, I roll my windows down before coming to a stop and have everything taken care of (license, registration, insurance) before they come to my window.
Eating bud is always an option, especially if you can eat your whole stash (momma always said eat your greens). Not a viable option if you're driving around with a QP.
I know I always have a little laugh when I see someone hand rolling a ciggy. I have on occasion rolled my own with some kief but never with water cured.
Managing your exposure is crucial. No open containers, loud music, rude or unlawful acts. Here cops will not try and let you go. They get off on exerting power. This is something that may happen in NYC but not everywhere.
The cops will not and cannot help you. Don't admit to shit!
This is the gospel brother, preach on.
Grow a beard, wish I could haha. It's sad that race/sex can be a deciding factor but this white male isn't complaining.
I've been lucky and have never had any experience with being taken to the station so I have nothing to add here but IMHO whatever you are holding should have been eaten/smoked a long time ago before being taken into custody.
Being polite can get you far in life. Maybe it can even keep you from being a suspicious character to the cops in the first place.
I have never been handcuffed so I have no experience with them but I would like to reiterate one thing that has been said.


The cops will not and cannot help you. Don't admit to shit!
The cops will not and cannot help you. Don't admit to shit!
The cops will not and cannot help you. Don't admit to shit!
 
Great advice, but how do you manage to get stopped so much ? You almost have to be black and driving whatever the latest version of pimpmobile there is in some bad boroughs ?
Glad to be an old whitey driving a pickup.
 

Kalicokitty

The cat that loves cannabis
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9) Handcuffs hurt because you're probably leaning back on them. Sit straight and lean to the side or forward.

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Officer, I have a bad shoulder, would it be ok to cuff my hands in front?
They only go for this about 30% of the time, but it's worth asking, so much more comfortable cuffed to the front.
 

supermanlives

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great thread i have preached #2 for years. my budies would form a group and hide where they can be suprised. not me. i have routinely walked down the street while toking tho. i smoke it like a ciggie and dont have a group.
 

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Great advice, but how do you manage to get stopped so much ? You almost have to be black and driving whatever the latest version of pimpmobile there is in some bad boroughs ?
Glad to be an old whitey driving a pickup.

I normally rarely get stopped. It's been happening more this summer probably because I'm growing out a beard and driving or being in a car more than usual.

It's worth noting that ALL my stops were for a legitimate reason. The only time we got stopped for "no reason" was once two weeks ago (the driver was hispanic-looking,) and after glancing at the license the cop told us "we're good here." and left.

Actually, if your car is in good shape and you're not driving suspiciously or breaking the law in any way, you're unlikely to get stopped, at least in NYC. There are just too many cars and people here. Cops have honed their skill in picking suspicious people out here the same way security guards in stores can pick out shoplifters.

Think like you would somebody who isn't breaking the law. If you're in a store to buy something, you walk toward an isle with a purpose, arms hanging loosely, whereas a shoplifter who wanders aimlessly and constantly tries to look around for people is suspicious. If you didn't have drugs in the car, would you drive very slow? No, so driving too slow is suspicious.

An excellent thread in this forum is the one where the police offer gives tips to interstate officers on stopping suspicious cars. "ie driver who lights a cigarette when they get pulled over might be trying to hide another smell"
 

dev0n

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"Carrying rolling tobacco (even if you don't smoke) while you smoke water cured bud would likely be enough to convince a cop you're just smoking tobacco."

HAHA you do this too??!! Nice! On the rare occasions I have smoke accessible in my vehicle it's always water-cured and my papers are always tucked in the same half-empty black bag of Farmer's Gold tobacco I've been carrying around for like four years :)

I've taken to water-curing about 25% of my product because 1) I can test the potency a lot sooner without the harshness of an uncured smoke, 2) I travel and it doesn't pay to smoke regular-cured Diesel strains in hotels (found that out in Atlantic City no less), and 3) the people I give bud to regularly are broken, delicate, and can barely handle second-hand tobacco smoke, so it's ideal for them.
 
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LolaGal

Officer, I have a bad shoulder, would it be ok to cuff my hands in front?
They only go for this about 30% of the time, but it's worth asking, so much more comfortable cuffed to the front.

HOW TO GET YOUR HANDS BACK IN FRONT WHILE WEARING HANDCUFFS:

Sit on hands while in back of cop car. Now scoot hands under butt towards your knees.

Bring left foot through hands, then right foot!

Congratulations, your hands are now cuffed in front, not behind you.

Be sure to do this when cops are not watching. They do not like this manuveur.
 
HOW TO GET YOUR HANDS BACK IN FRONT WHILE WEARING HANDCUFFS:

Sit on hands while in back of cop car. Now scoot hands under butt towards your knees.

Bring left foot through hands, then right foot!

Congratulations, your hands are now cuffed in front, not behind you.

Be sure to do this when cops are not watching. They do not like this manuveur.

Cool idea, but wouldn't this just piss the cops off?
 

whodair

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if you get taken in brooklyn booking on friday you'll be out on monday... better to get caught fuckin around in manhattan, about 5 hour proce$$
 

Kalicokitty

The cat that loves cannabis
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HOW TO GET YOUR HANDS BACK IN FRONT WHILE WEARING HANDCUFFS:

Sit on hands while in back of cop car. Now scoot hands under butt towards your knees.

Bring left foot through hands, then right foot!

Congratulations, your hands are now cuffed in front, not behind you.

Be sure to do this when cops are not watching. They do not like this manuveur.
That's a good way to get yourself short cuffed, or hog tied.

They don't like it when you do stuff like that, and usually will not give you the chance to do it twice.

But yes, that is how to get the cuffs to the front by yourself.
 
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