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what is wrong with these leaves?

websmoknpurps

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can somebody please tell me what is wrong with these leaves??
using 3 part GH, diamond necter, bid bud, sensi bloom, liquid karma, root juice, sensidine, carboload, 4,000 watts hps, two 60 gal res, 6 days nutrients, 6 days nutrients 1 day flush, 12 hrs. on 12 hrs. off, dutch master spray, these plants are in the beginning of second week. please check out my photo hallery
 

MynameStitch

Dr. Doolittle
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What is your ppms, ph and water temps? Can you take pics without the HPS light on please?

How close is the light, how big are the plants.... I can tell you right now most likley you are burning them with all those additives in there man..... you are throwing a ton of nutrients to that plant.

How much of each nutrient are you using? Is your res filled up to the 60 gallons?
 

10k

burnt out og'er
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Running big 4 or 6 inch rw cubes on a flood table I see in one of those pictures.
With a twin 60 gal res setup, it sounds like you have a pretty sizeable flood table operation and have been doing it a while. So I'm wondering if this is your first adventure with running those big cubes on your flood tables like I see ?
And why the new handle ?

Big rw as grodan originally designed, was just never intended to be used in such a way without being top fed on slabs with slight tilt of the slab tray(s), so everything flowed properly and 'breathed' the way it's supposed to.

Adding further misery for the plants, they look like they're clogged up with algae, possibly making the rw unable to drain or breathe as well as it should. No wonder you're having troubles with this system.

You mentioned twin 60 gallon reservoirs and a major load of assorted additives...pfeeew thats another issue altogether sir, but just for the heck of it please tell us what the pH is within those big cubes...pull a sample with a syringe or eyedropper and test it ?

How high up on the cubes have you been flooding the trays ?
Also give the flood frequency and duration ?
Are those the cubes with flat bottoms, or are they the slotted ones ?
How thick is the algae I'm seeing on those cubes ?
Are any of the plants feeling like they've become loose or weak at the base ?
Any gnats hanging out in the grow room ?
Any gunk in the res ?


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10k

burnt out og'er
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Can you get a picture without the hps light, so we can better see the plant leaves and also a better pic of the cube tops ?

A full description of the nute mixing strategy, strengths ratios etc ?
Also, are you really running all that stuff at once in the res ?
 

websmoknpurps

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I never had this promblem growing before i've alway's used a crazy line up and been very suscessfull in the past. All throughout the veg stage the plant's looed good untill the 2 day of being in bloom. I'm now in day 2 of the 2 week of bloom. I drained half of each res and filled then up with water and mixed some ebson salt at 1 tsp per gallon and re flooded each table. i've also used the ebson salt as a folair spray. The plant's are makeing little progress.
 

websmoknpurps

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In the 3partGh i'm useing 10mm micro,10mm bloom and 5mm grow.liquid karma 10mm,diamond nector 3,4mm,root juice 5mm,carboload 1mm,vitamax 5mm,sensazime 5mm. big bud powder 18mm per 60 gallon res, sensibloom calmag 5mm.All per gallon of water and yes i use them all in the res at once. No there's no bug's in the garden and i flood twice a day half way. there's no stim root to the plant's and the algi is miled happen's every time i use rockwool cube's. the temp in the room is mild and the ph is around 5.9 to 6.1 but not sure on that dont have my meter on hand lent it out for a min. I will get the exzack ph out of the cube later today. The light's are about 2'3 feet from the plant's and there about 12,16 inch tal.
 

10k

burnt out og'er
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Why are you running all that crap in your res ?
I mean, what rationale goes into each of the products you've combined in your res ?

Your latest picture without the hps lighting...
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You have what looks like a pretty serious P (edit & K) lockout, and its most likely from that laundry list of additives & nutes interacting with one another and causing some of the key elements to precipitate & fallout of your solution. Plus the possibility that your big cubes are holding way too much liquid and not enough 02.

Back in the 'old school' days, when people didnt buy into running every damn thing on the grow stores shelves all at once, and folks just fed their plants the npk & micros the plants needed, THE simple solution to nute defs, tox's and lockouts was to just dump the res and mix a fresh batch. This simple approach almost always fixed the problems.

I'd park all those other items on the shelf, and mix up a decent batch of the gh flora and go from there. Then I'd address the algae growth before it totally clogged up the big rw which can and does cause nightmares all by itself if it gets bad enough.
 
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