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what is this? too bushy?

Shliite

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HYDROPONICS:

What STRAIN are you growing? K2, White Rhino, Sweet Warp
What was the establishing technique? (Were the seed or clone?) WR and SW are seed. K2 is clone.
What is the age of your plants? little over a month on average.
What PHASE are the plants in? (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in? Vegetative
What Technique are you using? DWC. LST, FIM.
What substrate/medium are you using?(Hydroton, RockWool etc.) Hydroton + 1 inch rockwool cubes.
What is the Nutrient temperature? ~ 70
What Nutrient's are you using? PBP Grow, PBP Bloom, hydroguard, Maxicrop (kelp), GH Rare earth (silica)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM you are using? Varies. most up around 1000.
What is the pH of the "Tank"? 6.0-6.5
Are you sure your calibration is correct on your equiptment? pH is a water test kit so there could be human error in readings.
When was your last watering? just changed the res tonight.
When was your last feeding change? (ie. grow-bloom-micro-additional) Tonight, flushed with regular tap + hydroguard.
What size bulb are you using? 400w HPS
What is the distance to the canopy? ~ 1 foot (plant heights vary)
What is your RH Factor? unsure
What is the canopy temperature? unsure
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include flucutaion range) ~70-75 degrees
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.) about 600 cfm exhaust for 90 cubic feet.
Is the fan blowing directly at plants? a small circulating fan blows upward into the plants.
Is your water HARD or SOFT? unsure
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned off of or pinched? cloned off about 3 days ago.
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so, What and When? no
Are plant's infected with pest's? no but i've acquired a lady bug.


Well with that out of the way - i've let my biggest plant (Sweet Warp) veg for a little too long. I was originally planning on doing a SCROG with it so i FIMed and LSTed relentlessly, and now I have a massive bush that is probably too big for my area because it doesnt get light on all sides. Sometimes if i dont rotate it for a while tops will start to droop from not getting enough light.

I've grown it too high for my cab so I read up on BushMaster and decided I would give it a go. I wanted to supplement with kelp so i got the maxicrop concentrated water-soluble powder and applied at half of the recommended strength as a foliar spray (the recommended strength was in form of reservoir additive). At this time I also added the GH Rare Earth silica which is also in form of a water soluble powder. The rare earth comes with a pouch that you are supposed to fill with the desired amount and submerge in your reservoir like a tea bag - but because i have 3 reservoirs and not one i was advised by the guy at the hydro shop to just mix it with warm water and add to the reservoir.... not very good advice. Tonight (2 nights later) i checked and all the clay had collected on the bottom of the buckets and on top of my air stones - also it looked like there was some rot and discoloration in the root balls.

Tips of fan leaves on the Sweet Warp are pointing downward and on a few they are curling in like that "taco" effect. I believe my pH could have been a little too high before (around 6.5-6.8), so that may have been the problem.... or it could be that the kelp was sprayed with lights on and damaged the leaves...

Some meristems look like they are beginning to wilt and droop. Could this be because the foliar spray which was intended for fan leaves happened to settle on the tops? is this damaging?

kelp has been applied 3 times in 4 days via foliar spray.

I want to get the plant "un-stressed" so i can begin flowering with the bushmaster.

Would i benefit from removing some of the side vegetation before flowering?





 

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burnt out og'er
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pfeeew thats a bush alright, and it's gonna get bushier since you cloned off it a few days ago.
Are you running three dwc buckets under the one light, or am I miss reading it and you're running three plants in the one DWC bucket in the pics ?
 

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burnt out og'er
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I think I'd thin it out so its less bushy and more the same size as your other two plants so they'd all run a semi equal canopy (although different strains), so they'll all get decent light considering you'll have them together sharing the one 400w light.
 

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burnt out og'er
Veteran
Come to think of it, if you did trim the bushy one back, then you might still be able to train all three under scrog screen like you were originally planning to do.
Say about a three or four foot square frame over the three buckets maybe ?
But, It would be a bitch to change out the buckets, unless you had them on a remote res control bucket for that..or had a drain plug in each to work with.

just thinking out loud
 
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