What is this bug

[Loc Dog]

Is this a spider mite??? If so what is best to kill them. I probably have everything known to man from when I had broad mites. Will continue scanning leaves in case I have them again also.

Also, where are the stickys???? There was great complete guide to plant problems by MyNameIsStitch.

 

[crimsonecho]

you see webbing?

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[Loc Dog]

you see webbing?

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No webbing. Wondered why my last 2 grows were shit. Thought I burned out my Vero 29's running them too hot. Took cuttings a week ago, and cloned, and all 12 died. Never had more than 2 die before with that number of cuts. I hope they have not dropped that guide I mentioned because he is no longer member. That would mean Snypes are gone also.

Would this be spider mite egg.

 

[crimsonecho]

No webbing. Wondered why my last 2 grows were shit. Thought I burned out my Vero 29's running them too hot. Took cuttings a week ago, and cloned, and all 12 died. Never had more than 2 die before with that number of cuts. I hope they have not dropped that guide I mentioned because he is no longer member. That would mean Snypes are gone also.

Would this be spider mite egg.

i’ve never personally battled them so couldnt say for sure but that perfectly round shape indicates that it is an egg of some sorts and i wouldnt be surprised if it was indeed spider mite eggs
oh and i found this twospotted spider mites looks like yours might not be but very similar

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[Sub24ox7]

Looks like what I have dealt with(two spotted spider mite). You can get rid of them but have to be relentless. They will keep coming back. I spray all surfaces with dr enzymes. And leaves at lights out. Every couple days then just surfaces(walls, floors, ceiling). Oils work too like mercenary which has peppermint, clove, thyme, rosemary and a few others and something in it to mix with water. It’s more phytotoxic than dr. Enzymes. I use it to like garlic for vampires lol. Near entrances and plants, smells lovely like Christmas spices. Their eggs can stay dormant for up to two years and then wham you can get them again. Not hard to get rid of when you catch them early. But I’m always on the lookout. I seem to find them once a year early and am able to keep them at away for a good amount of time. I think they come from outside so I have a local vector. They don’t really use much webbing early on until they are really infested so if you see webbing you got a lot of them imo.

 

[Loc Dog]

The only living one I have found so far, looks like 2 spot, but more of a band across back, unless seeing it full from food gives that look. Just looked at one leaf from shit harvest I had and it has eggs all over it. Need to get some cuttings to start new grow. Surprised the mothers had them since house is very dry, and that should have stopped them from being active. Will keep scanning, to make sure no broad mites, which are the worst. Pissed off the stickys are all gone. Snype had a method of using Neem oil to get rid of broad mites, which should also get spider mites.

 

[Loc Dog]

Found snypes method. Still want that sticky about all plant problems.

Snype's Guide To Kill Spider Mites & Broad Mites With 100% Neem Oil!

Snype's Guide To Kill Spider Mites & Broad Mites With 100% Neem Oil! A lot of growers think that they need to reach for some bottle of Dangerous Pesticide to get rid of their mites. This is simply not true. The problem is that if you are going to go the organic approach to getting rid of your...

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[Loc Dog]

Here is MynameStitch on Spider mites -

Spider mites:

Spider mites are by far the worst pest to have, because they are the hardest to kill and can literally kill any plant. They are by far more active in warmer climates than cold ones, they also suck sup from the leaves leaving tiny white spots on the leaves from where they suck on. The damage they do is just like thrips, but with spider mites they pierce the surface of the leaves and can show tiny holes or white speckling damage, unlike with thirps they eat the surface of the chlorophyll. You can tell when you have infestation of spider mites , because you will have distorted growth, shortened internodes and petioles.
When you have bad infestation you will see webbing with larva in them. You get spider mites from either store bought soil mostly when your soil is not sterilized. Most brands do not state weather or not they are, chances are if you buy cheap soil, you have a less likely chance of the soil being sterile.Also, bringing outdoor plants indoors, or getting plants from someone else who was infected with spidermites.
Spider mites live on the plant itself and are under the leaves most of the time and are usually are so tiny you can’t see them with the naked eye. In order to get rid of spider mites one of the best ways to start to get rid of them is to use NO-Pest strips.NO-Pest strips work well and should always be used with other methods. Neem oil helps get rid of them as well. Also by raising the humidity in your grow room a lot will kill the spider mites off, by them absorbing to much humidity and will burst. You can use soap solution like Safer Insecticidal Soap to get rid of most aphid problems. Use some tobacco juice and chili pepper powder added to this for mites. (see below how to make tabacco juice)
Pyrethrum should only be used in extreme circumstances directly on plants, It starts to breaks down around a week and is easily washed away with clear water or. If your plants are in flowering and you have spider mites, using safer chemicals is your best bet. The tobacco and pepper soap solution works well and should be used daily, spraying on the underside and top leaves and later the whole plant. Since spider mites are very residual to common products, you have to find or try any number of ones untill you get rid of them. make absolutly sure you retreat as stated, other wise you will get resistant spidermites and then you have a bigger battle on your hands.Also do not allow pets that go outside alot to be around indoor plants,mites have been known to be carried in from pets to plants. PLEASE NOTE, below are ways to get rid of spider mites, but no 2 mite infestations are identical, you almost always have to use different products to get rid of them, also make a habit to check for at least a whole month after thinking you got rid of them, that way your chances of the spider mites that became resistant breeding and then having a bigger problem. Make sure you spray your plant down very good and enough and on time.
Here are some more products that may help get rid of spider mites:


Hot Pepper Wax,Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide (which can be used right to the day of harvest),GNATROL( used in hydro in the water as well as soil),Doc's Neem Pest Soap,Safer Sticky Stakes,TR-11000 Pyrethrum. Anything that says dicofol on the back. ( should be used in vegging or early flowering)

Avid
GNATROL( used in Hydroponics/Aeroponics in the water as well as soil)
Safer Sticky Stakes
TR-11000 Pyrethrum
Anything that says dicofol on the back. ( should be used in vegging or early flowering)
PERMETHRIN dust

Organics

Organocide
Hot Pepper Wax,
Safer Yard & Garden Insecticide
Doc's Neem Pest Soap
Organocide
Bugzyme Natural Pest Killer
Schultz-Instant Insect Spray
Lady Beetles (Beneficial Insect)
Predatory mite (Beneficial Insect)
Pirate Bugs (Beneficial Insect)
Neem Oil
Neem 2




Tabacco Juice recipe

Take 3 strong ciggeretes soak them over night in water
Boil it for 2 to 3 miniutes, let it cool off and spray the plants 3 to 4 times a week. You can add safer soap if you like to the mixture.
(make absolutly sure you use gloves/face protection while handling and spraying)
Neem oil works very well too!!
ZBQ has an excellent thread on how to use neem oil without geting your plants to oily!! http://www.overgrow.com/edge/showthread.php?s=&threadid=482648 :tup: Your Last resort is to use Avid.

 

[Loc Dog]

Was just thinking about how I must have got the spider mites. Last summer saw a large praying Mantis on mothers, which I would hope did not have them, but house gets stink bugs all the time, and they love my plants.

 

[buzzmobile]

Last summer saw a large praying Mantis on mothers, which I would hope did not have them,

That was my cousin. He does not have mites.

Mites can hitchhike on clothing. They are also capable of floating on wind currents. I noticed Gnatrol on the list of pesticides above. Gnatrol does not kill spider mites.

The eggs in the second picture above look like they are dead. When they turn brown it is a good sign. A viable spider mite egg is usually white, off white or clear.

 

[Loc Dog]

Did a general google search on spider mites, and article said keep them very wet, so have been spraying for days with mister, aiming upward to get bottom of leaves. That was horrible advice. They are now having parties on the bottom leaves, with dozens running around. Only had one per leaf when I first found them. Has been warm last few days. Just sprayed with Natria, which seems to be 1% neem. Might just takes cuts and treat them, then root, and check carefully everyday. Will also get those no pest strips.

 

[chilliwilli]

A sulfur burner worked well too in late flower stage. I used it every 3.day and after one week i couldn't find a living mite crawling. Not good for your health imo and will dev harm young growth when overdone.

 

[Loc Dog]

A sulfur burner worked well too in late flower stage. I used it every 3.day and after one week i couldn't find a living mite crawling. Not good for your health imo and will dev harm young growth when overdone.

Just worried about losing GG4 genetics. Will check later to see if Natria worked, then take cuts, and drench them every 3 days. Then I will drench grow room and tent with bleach spray numerous times. Plants will not go in there for at least 6 weeks.

Any other suggestions for best clone only strains, that produce large number of grams per watt?

 

[LausbuamProject]

Have had spider mites, broad mites multiple times (from clones I bought). It is possible to completely get rid of them, however organic sprays like neem oil have not proven sufficient. What works really well is the acaricide Vertimec (Avermectin).
3 treatments with a week in between normally should be enough, it is recommended to use different acaricides to avoid resistant mites. And just to make sure you can use raptory mites after those three treatments.

 

[crimsonecho]

A sulfur burner worked well too in late flower stage. I used it every 3.day and after one week i couldn't find a living mite crawling. Not good for your health imo and will dev harm young growth when overdone.

sulfur burner in late flower?

Just worried about losing GG4 genetics. Will check later to see if Natria worked, then take cuts, and drench them every 3 days. Then I will drench grow room and tent with bleach spray numerous times. Plants will not go in there for at least 6 weeks.

Any other suggestions for best clone only strains, that produce large number of grams per watt?

sulfur burner after taking your clones and no living shit is in the room or in the house?

 

[chilliwilli]

sulfur burner in late flower?

sulfur burner after taking your clones and no living shit is in the room or in the house?

Yes worked very good with no noticeable harm to the plants. I did use it very long in the dark phase 6h+. Young plants/ fresh growth will not survive that threatment imo.

 

[crimsonecho]

Yes worked very good with no noticeable harm to the plants. I did use it very long in the dark phase 6h+. Young plants/ fresh growth will not survive that threatment imo.

i especially heard not to use sulfur in flowering phase because supposedly it leaves sulfur residue on the flowers but dont have personal experience on it

 

[chilliwilli]

Couldn't taste it but that doesn't mean anything. I can smell the sulfur sometimes when i enter the room the days after using and i'm down to 90min once a week.

 

[Loc Dog]

Took plants outside last night, turned upside down and drenched with Natria spray (neem oil 1%). Looked at a few heavily effected leaves tonight, and not one moving insect. I am wondering if Snypes method was wrong about needing to make fresh neem solution everytime, since my Natria is about 7 years old, and stored in area that froze during winter. Been getting to 80F everyday, so will do 2 more treatments on 3 day schedule, then check the clones constantly. Finally found a source of top shelf clones after looking for years, at very reasonable price.

 

[Creeperpark]

I'm sorry you are having all this stress from these mites. Mites are a bitch once you get those bastards they are hard to get rid of. A mite-free garden is a happy garden. A garden with mites is a sad stressful garden. Smoking or vaping bug shit on your weed fucks up your high. Once you get mites you can have them for as long as you grow. I haven't had a mite in my garden in over 15 years.
Here's how I keep mites out of my garden.
1. I never take clones from anyone!
2. I never go into someone else's garden or let them come in mine.
3. I only clone my own seed-grown plants.
4. I keep the environment from getting too hot and dry. Mostly grow in cool-season only and shut down during hot summer for indoor grows., In hot Summer I grow outdoors. .