what if the butter never rose :(

[Marijuanasaur]

I tried to boil an oz of vaped bud into a butter/water solution using 1 stick of butter, and no butter ever rose after putting it in the fridge... what did I do wrong?

 

[B. Friendly]

try watching some youtube vid's on making budder
http://www.google.ca/search?q=youtu...esult_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBEQqwQwAA

 

[IWanaGetHiSoHi]

Maybe it was margarine?

 

[Stonerguy]

Maybe it was margarine?

I thought margarine was butter well like half butter half conola oil or something. So either way he should have butter/ some kind of oil surfacing no?

 

[MrBomDiggitty]

my butter surfaced and then someone put the dish the surfacing butter was in... into another container to "keep it from spilling" in the fridge. The butter submerged itself and starting going liquid again.

You didn't put a lid over the butter water, did you?

 

[Marijuanasaur]

My container had plenty of room for butter to rise in...

i used land o lakes "butter" salted or something.

I just checked my mix again and its still all liquid with like, lighter colored hints of butter but mostly a dark nasty mix.

I wanted to drink it, but it looks terrible, so it looks like I've just lost out on this one

I just wanna know for next time why the butter never even rose... I dont wanna try this with dank and have no butter :O

 

[Big Foot]

I noticed this problem happening before, Its a result of breaking the emulsion, this can be enhanced by excess water, and the use of salted butter. Salt is known to break to break an strong emulsion. Using salted butter also has no added benefits because salt hates bonding to an oil and will end up in your water layer anyway.

 

[Marijuanasaur]

I noticed this problem happening before, Its a result of breaking the emulsion, this can be enhanced by excess water, and the use of salted butter. Salt is known to break to break an strong emulsion. Using salted butter also has no added benefits because salt hates bonding to an oil and will end up in your water layer anyway.

hmm, i appreciate the insight. Thanks. so you think if i do it with different butter it may work out better? I just used 2-3 cups of water or so...

 

[Gr33nman]

i use real butter, and i dont think the lid does anything good or bad. and it can take a while to seperate, i put in the freezer for an hour or three. hope it helps. havent made butter in while, might make some 2nite.

 

[darklands]

How did you strain out the plant matter after cooking? Did you squeeze every last drop of liquid out of it, or did you just net it out and toss it? The plant matter acts like a sponge to the melted butter, so if you don't press it after cooking you'll lose most of your goodness.

 

[Gr33nman]

that too ^

 

[xfargox]

I thought margarine was butter well like half butter half conola oil or something. So either way he should have butter/ some kind of oil surfacing no?

Margarine is not butter. Margarine is hydrogenated vegetable oil (or some other unsaturated fat).

Longer answer: Butter comes from saturated animal fat. This means that all of the carbons in the chain have hydrogens attached to all open electrons. Saturated fat is "unhealthy" so people decided to try to use "healthier" vegetable oil, which is either mono- or polyunsaturated. This means that, in place of a hydrogen, one (or more in the case of poly-) carbon is double-bonded. The problem with these guys are that unsaturated fat is liquid at room temperature (look at vegetable oil or unhydrogenated peanut butter). So what people did was they took unsaturated fats and blasted it with hydrogens to make it saturated.

I'd steer clear of margarine. It's pretty terrible in terms of health and whatnot. Also, it's not real butter as far as this is concerned. I'm not sure how the chemistry of it would be affected, but the different is the geometric structure of the molecule. When unsaturated fats are hydrogenated, they create trans-fats, which means they create links that are in the trans- conformation (as opposed to cis-... it's organic chemistry). Ultimately, margarine's molecular shape is different than that of real butter.

Honestly though, real butter isn't bad for you if you exercise and eat good, wholesome foods. It's like how we used to think cholesterol in eggs would raise our cholesterol

 

[darklands]

I agree with the above that margarine and other hydrogenated oils are bad for our health. The other crucial reason not to use margarine when making cannabutter is that it will not resolidify once it's been melted, so separating it from the water is a bitch. Yes, the oil will float on top of the water, but you won't be able to lift it out in a solid cake like butter.