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[Miasa Mura]

Hey ICMag friends!

I have some “grow theories” and was curious if anyone has figured this stuff out yet?

• What does grafting a male stem into a female root stock (and vice Vera) do to the expression of the sex?

• Does grafting a high CBD variety onto a THC variety make the flowers produce the same cannabinoid/terpenes?

• What does using carbonated water do to hashish/concentrates when used instead of still water ? - I am about to test this out with a small batch of bubble hash using Liquid Death sparkling water. Excited to share the findings with you all!

• Does selecting the first mature seeds lead to faster flowering varieties?

• Variegated seeds and which ones are more viable? - I found that when I saved seeds from different tissue of the Variegated plant the seeds saved from the green tissue where 49 out of 50 Green with one Albino and the seeds that were saved from the variegated tissue where 49 out of 50 Albino with one green plant. This lead me to thinking about the above mentioned theory.

 

[Miasa Mura]

Also, I wanted to get as much feed back as I can on this “grading scale”. In California the price per pound is extremely low and high quality herb is being purchased at the same price as massive 100 acre grows are selling their bammer for. Recently saw some companies advertising “5 star cannabis” at retailers in my area… I wrote this up a few years ago combining the “AAAA” grading scale from Canada as well as the “Three tiered dispensary structure” Top Shelf, Mid Shelf, Bottom Shelf.

One Star:
Terms: Bammer, Bunk, Schwag, Low Grade.
Description: Minimal trichome coverage, not - poorly trimmed, discoloration, oxidization, flower crumble and or fall apart when handling, too wet and or too dry, No smell - Hay Smell - Fermented Smell, black ash.

• Two Star:
Terms: Reggie, Mids.
Description: Moderate trichome coverage, loosely trimmed, slight discoloration, overly wet (flowers squish) or overly dry (turn to powder), mild aroma, charcoal - dark grey

• Three Star:
Terms: Good, Flowers.
Description Good trichome coverage, trimmed, no discoloration, properly dried (flowers break apart, stem snaps), light aroma, grey ash.

• Four Star:
Terms: Dank, Fire, Chronic, Bomb.
Description Excellent trichome coverage, close trim, no discoloration, even moisture throughout the flowers (Flowers have a crisp touch to the outside with a gooey center), strong aroma, grey - white ash.

• Five Star:
Terms: Head Stash, Personal, Private Reserve, High Grade.
Description Oversaturated trichome coverage, no leaf - tightly trimmed, overpowering aroma, vibrant coloration, completely even moisture from stem to stigmas (spongy cake like texture and response to being squeezed, fluff back to their neutral position) - perfectly cured, smooth smoke, white ash.

 

[goingrey]

• What does grafting a male stem into a female root stock (and vice Vera) do to the expression of the sex?

FWIW:
Sexuality in Plants and Its Hormonal Regulation (Door M. Kh. Chailakhyan, V.N. Khrianin - 1987), ISBN: 978-1-4612-4734-0, page 31
Attempts have been made to change the sex by grafting scions from plants of the opposite sex. Although Strasburger (1900) failed to change the sex of hemp and Mercurialis in his grafting experiments, Grishko (1935) did obtain positive results in his reciprocral grafts of hemp plants of opposite sexes.
Specifically, he observed the appearance of pistillate flowers on a male plant that had been grafted to a female plant; these flowers, however, did not yield any seeds.

• Does selecting the first mature seeds lead to faster flowering varieties?

Unless they mature first because they were created with pollen from a faster flowering male than the other seeds, I doubt it.

 

[Creeperpark]

Hello Miasa, I'm interested and subbing this one. Thank you for sharing.

 

[troutman]

When they graft one apple type to a tree of a different type of apples it only produces different apples
on that branch. It doesn't change the tree's genetics. I suspect that would be the case with any plant.

 

[aliceklar]

Hey ICMag friends!

I have some “grow theories” and was curious if anyone has figured this stuff out yet?

• What does grafting a male stem into a female root stock (and vice Vera) do to the expression of the sex?

I've been experimenting with grafted plants in my current grow. I have a female plant in flower that had a couple of male scions grafted to it. The different grafts flowered as the originals would have, without apparently affecting the rest of the plant. Once the male flowers on the scions looked close to opening, I pruned them off and kept them away from the flower space in a jar with some water to ripen. Had no noticeable affect on female flowers of the host plant.

 

[Miasa Mura]

FWIW:
Sexuality in Plants and Its Hormonal Regulation (Door M. Kh. Chailakhyan, V.N. Khrianin - 1987), ISBN: 978-1-4612-4734-0, page 31
Attempts have been made to change the sex by grafting scions from plants of the opposite sex. Although Strasburger (1900) failed to change the sex of hemp and Mercurialis in his grafting experiments, Grishko (1935) did obtain positive results in his reciprocral grafts of hemp plants of opposite sexes.
Specifically, he observed the appearance of pistillate flowers on a male plant that had been grafted to a female plant; these flowers, however, did not yield any seeds.



Unless they mature first because they were created with pollen from a faster flowering male than the other seeds, I doubt it.

Thanks for sharing the information!

I am speaking of the same male and female combination. There are always seeds that seem to be mature faster than the rest of them. Thanks for sharing your thoughts

 

[Miasa Mura]

When they graft one apple type to a tree of a different type of apples it only produces different apples
on that branch. It doesn't change the tree's genetics. I suspect that would be the case with any plant.

Hey Troutman,

Thanks for the Apple comparison, I just was unsure due to the herb being dioecious unlike apples and other commonly grafted crops like grapes.

 

[Miasa Mura]

I've been experimenting with grafted plants in my current grow. I have a female plant in flower that had a couple of male scions grafted to it. The different grafts flowered as the originals would have, without apparently affecting the rest of the plant. Once the male flowers on the scions looked close to opening, I pruned them off and kept them away from the flower space in a jar with some water to ripen. Had no noticeable affect on female flowers of the host plant.

That sounds like a really cool experiment, thanks for sharing your findings!

 

[Creeperpark]

Next Question?

 

[Miasa Mura]

Next Question?

Thanks for your input! Has anyone ever used sliced sugar cane as an additive for their soil?

im thinking about chopping and dicing up some sugar cane and then dusting it with Great White myco powder to set my root zone into when I transplant this year. I know in flower plants love the sugar and I feel like the mycorrhizae will really enjoy the natural sucrose source to break down over the season.

 

[Creeperpark]

Thanks for your input! Has anyone ever used sliced sugar cane as an additive for their soil?

im thinking about chopping and dicing up some sugar cane and then dusting it with Great White myco powder to set my root zone into when I transplant this year. I know in flower plants love the sugar and I feel like the mycorrhizae will really enjoy the natural sucrose source to break down over the season.

Shredded sugar cane would be a super mulch for microbes. In the past using sugar in containers outdoors didn't work, because it attracted insects ants.. In the outdoor soil beds, it worked very well and produced a lot of extra resin on the plants. I never thought about adding shredded sugar cane or maybe mixed in a good nitrogen source like cotton burr compost. I'm going to give a try thank you for sharing your information.

 

[Miasa Mura]

Shredded sugar cane would be a super mulch for microbes. In the past using sugar in containers outdoors didn't work, because it attracted insects ants.. In the outdoor soil beds, it worked very well and produced a lot of extra resin on the plants. I never thought about adding shredded sugar cane or maybe mixed in a good nitrogen source like cotton burr compost. I'm going to give a try thank you for sharing your information.

Thanks Creeperpark! Best of luck to us both