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What do you think of these 2 plants on day 26?

The123321

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I am new to growing. Here are the 2 plants I am growing now.

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The details for it

  • Northern Cheese Haze autos by mephisto on day 26 in 3 gallon fabric pots of coco coir with perlite
  • 32x32 tent with 240w kingbrite led quantum board on like 75% power at like 26" on 24/0
  • Temperature around 77-81f and RH around 50 - 55%
  • Mixed in dry fertilizer amendments with Dr. Earth Organic Tomato Vegetable 4-6-3 and Dr. Earth Bud & Bloom Flower Girl 3-9-4. The top plant has 75% 4-6-3 with 25% 3-9-4 with about 1/4 cup total of the fertilizer in the 1 plant like recommended on bag. The next plant has the same ratio of the dr earth but at half the level with 2 jobes 4-4-4 fertilizer stakes in it. I plan to top dress every 30 days or so when the plants need it on there.
  • I hand water daily with around 1/6 gallon of tap water to each plant with 4-5 ml/gallon of calmag with 1 ml/gallon of silicon that I ph to around 6.0 - 6.2. I do not drain any runoff I let it wick back up into the fabric pot. I was originally going to put these on autopots but now hand watering as I have bought the biotabs to use on the next grow with tap water only in the reservoir.

When I started I was using non ph tested water for the first few days and I did not put calmag in the water which I think caused calmag deficiency and ph issues. I then started ph testing the water and using gh ph down to put the ph around 6.2. I think that if I was to do it again I would mix in around half the level of dry amendments and top dress more often when the plants need it on there.

What do you think? Tips or recommendations? I have bought biotabs that I plant to use the biotabs line with silicium flash instead of orgatrex for the next plants I do in the tent on there.
 
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AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
That's a definite deficiency I'm seeing on those leaves, but I just woke up and am having trouble remembering which one. I think it's a magnesium deficiency. I believe too much calcium can cause magnesium lockout? Also if you are not going down to about 5.8 it might be a manganese deficiency. Actually looking at more pics, manganese deficiency is my final answer. But it's not working in from the top which confuses me, cause manganese is immobile which means it should be should be. It appears to be working in from the bottom, so crap maybe it is magnesium.
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The123321

Member
Thanks. I think I had ph problems and did not give calmag for the first few waterings and had the color on the leaves then. The newer leaves have less and less of the yellowing as I have been giving a steady 4-5ml/gallon of calmag with tap water. The tap water would have some right? Then adding the calmag on that it should have plenty right? The new leaves look better and I think I put a little more dry amendments in the coco in the pot so I think that is the too much nitrogen signs I see in the leaves. I plan to top dress with less than the bag of dry fertilizer recommends in a week or so on there.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
Thanks. I think I had ph problems and did not give calmag for the first few waterings and had the color on the leaves then. The newer leaves have less and less of the yellowing as I have been giving a steady 4-5ml/gallon of calmag with tap water. The tap water would have some right? Then adding the calmag on that it should have plenty right? The new leaves look better and I think I put a little more dry amendments in the coco in the pot so I think that is the too much nitrogen signs I see in the leaves. I plan to top dress with less than the bag of dry fertilizer recommends in a week or so on there.
That really depends on your tap water there man, the tapwater where I live comes out 70ppm which is pretty barren of anything, I have to add a little calimag to almost every grow. If it seems to be lessening, I would keep an eye on it and if anything changes drastically bump the thread.
 

The123321

Member
Thanks. I tried to flush the plants today with around 1-2 gallons of ph calmag water and I ended up breaking the main stem off from the top of the plant in the top plant in the image. I hope that the plant is ok with it on there.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
The image has disappeared. How did you break a steam from watering if I may ask? Was the water that strong it broke it?
 

The123321

Member
Thanks. I was trying to hold the plant up with 1 hand while trying to water it with the different hand while also letting it drain into a different thing. I am looking into a thing I can put the pot on that would let the runoff drain out without me needing to hold the plant up. The plant that I broke the main stem off the top of it looks better today. I think the plants are looking better and I plan to do a top dressing this week for it on there.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
Oh it sounds like you need some saucers or a tray. I'm a big fan of cloth pots in saucers cause if you over water, the runoff will get caught and then just get sucked back up the bottom of the pots cause of the surface tension of the water.
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The123321

Member
Thanks. I have ordered trays to put the pots in to help with runoff. I was planning to use these plants with autopots and the plants have been sitting in the autopots trays though I am going to wait and use the autopots with biotabs for the next grow and I plan to keep hand watering these plants for it on there.
 

AgentPothead

Just this guy, ya know?
:tiphat: Good luck! I haven't tried autopots yet, I've been growin few enough plants hand watering hasn't been an issue.
 

The123321

Member
Thanks. To be honest I bought the autopots early on before the first grow and if I had it to do over again I do not know that I would have bought the autopots for it. I thought hand watering was going to be a lot more of an issue and did not really think about the fact that maintaining the reservoir pretty much makes up for the time you save by not having to hand water every day. I think that if I had more than 2-4 plants in the tent that autopots would make a lot more sense but with that few plants I think that everything would have been a whole lot easier if I had just not bought the autopots and did hand watering. It is why I tried to make organic dry amendments work in coco which has not been easy. That was so that I could have the 4 plants on 1 reservoir even though they were planted at different times with 2 plants planted every like 6 weeks and with organic dry amendments you could do water only in the reservoir. If I had planned to do hand watering from the beginning I would have been able to do a regular plan of different nutrients in the water for each plant based on what it needed on there. Though I think that when I start using the autopots it will make things quite a bit easier so it will likely be worth it. With the biotabs and autopots I would likely only need to open the tent for lst every few days and to refill the reservoir. I am looking forward to trying that on there.
 
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